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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 10:53pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by rose2015

Karthik has always given me Edward Cullen vibes. (Twilight)

--He is controlling if that's what you are getting at controlling possessive and highly manipulative at times...He is kind of scary if u boil down his physical attractiveness and sugar coating... there are so many times he lied and did weird shit just to keep naira under his thumbLOL
-like look at the whole if ur close wid my parents...u wont be with me any more...
-When ragav showed up, he didnt logically tell naira about it he hid it...i feel he was more scared she will leave him, like theres these weird scenes of him just making excuses to pull naira away rather than just asking her like a normal human
-the only time he gets pissed is when naira doesnt tell him the truth and it means to him she doesnt need him in a way
-If naira doesnt take "Help" he gets very angry...because she cnt possibly do anything without him
-Leap he kept saying m seeing how u can now live alone etc type lines
-Chandu, Kiran, Ragav, Kunal, Kabir...kartik towt naira had bf right then when he realized she was talking to chandu he was like oh his no competition to me and was chilled.
Kiran was everything he wasnt, he had a history with naira, plus he was a trained dancer, seeing him groping naira made him go crazy...Ragav kartik wouldnt have even let naira meet. I rem his one excuse was like u cnt shes my wife now...Like really? Kunal just talking to naira made him hot and bothered...and go on drinking binges...kabir...with kabir instresting things came out about him...like the fact he checked where naira was via his phone that tracked her phone and followed her if she went off route and also he would make these weird threats in between like who dares put mehendi on u before me...or i would kill anyone who even looked at u...or all the offs he took from work to personally guard nairaLOL


If I think of the different tracks that have taken place I don't see him as having grown in maturity. He has a history of bad relationships and an inability to deal with challenges/problems. I feel he didn't learn anything after getting divorced and remarried to Naira. I was hoping for a change and some level of maturity and feeling of responsibility. I don't see it in him. It was funny seeing him sit in an office looking unkept. It almost felt as a joke because it has appeared that this guy doesn't work. Even if he is at the office I can't imagine him being productive. 

--Lol yeh rishta land kartik made his daddy millions from answering phone calls and doing random presentations...keerti and naksh do more work then himLOL
I think he did change...but not in a healthy way...Like in KV1 he married naira made her his soul focus and was like screw everyone else...then slowly he just couldnt deal with all the lies she told...like his one trigger and hatred was for lies...because lies destroyed his life... 
Keerti lied and ddn tell bwt aditya
Manish lied about his mom
Suwarna was a liar
dadi was a liar
So Kartik just hated it all and expected complete dependency and honesty from naira at all times which honestly to some extent was not fair... 

and now this guy who hates lies suddenly lies at the drop of a hat in KV2 just to keep naira safe... 
he is unable to meet peoples eyes like he could before
he would just do anything to keep naira wid him...

so my point his he became a liar...LOL

Given his track record I don't feel Naira should be so quick to forgive and forget. He needs to really realize the consequences of his actions and learn from them. Such actions break trust in a marriage and it's hard to recover from. He really needs to go to therapy because he is not capable of being responsible or making proper choices for himself or anyone else. He has too many issues within himself that he needs to sort out. His love for Naira is not a healthy relationship but comes of as an unhealthy obsession that doesn't allow him to think properly. He may make for a boyfriend but mentally he is not husband material.

--Yes he isnt able to balance his fam and naira...its always either naira or fam...
i feel that from the beginning to some extent even he admitted this he has an obsession with her...that goes above everything his career his life his family everything...
Like he isnt able to function like a normal human without her...and have her dependent on him

It all goes back to the beginning... when he was in love with her he sort of ddn even think she would say no to him...because which woman can resist himLOL also after all the cute shit he was doing i was like aw aw naira how could u reject him...he worked for months slowly earning himself naira's friendship...then love...like gayu mishti akshara rajshree etc all fell for his spell after two interactions naira was his main conquest... 

he would stalk her kind of buy her random shit even dow they were not even a couple... when naira rejected him dropped her like a potato 
because he new she had gotten use to being kinda dependent on him...
i think all his triggers were naira putting herself in danger...and doing something against his word...
also i think on some level he used his rship with the singhanias to show the goenkas like theyr my fam i hate u suck i dnt need u now that i have nairaLOL

he would have traded them all over for a ring for naira...
naira was his princess... 
but he still used all his strange tactics to try and control her and keep her dependent 
which ddn work with shubham he ddn think she wouldnt come back and when she ddn he cudn blv it...
thats why he became and angry roving drunk he couldnt live without her...
and when he saw her his anger just became silence... 
i rem him shouting and breaking everything he could... but when he saw her he kept giving her this look like how could u leave me  how dare u...
everything is about her... sure he gave suwarna like very basic importance but deep down we all saw how unhappy he was that naira wasnt in front of him in touching and talking to distance
and after just a day near her he would become happier lighter would smile more...
i think the blood clot made his obsession even unhealthier by making him a liar...
because it sort of made him capable of anything just to keep her with him
and naira just says i want to leave this place...and he is ready wid court papers to forsake his fam and anyone who will come between demLOL

m sorry but i kind of like their relationshipLOL  at the same time... like its better den him taking nairas kid and giving it to keerti



 

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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 11:19pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by AnyaRSingh


I somewhat agree and disagree i feel that it is necessary to point out that their performances were great yday 
its not so much about idolizing them but i do love them so m sorry if m a lil extraLOL

There is a little character growth i noticed...but i dont know if its healthy character growth 

Kartik developed a new habit of speaking lies and doing shady shit just to keep naira with him healthy and safe because he is terrified of losing her

the same dude who hated lies like hell...
he has sort of lost himself...

i think it sort of started with losing shubham 
and him becoming an alcoholic
he became rude and volatile to those around him besides suwarna
he ended up getting divorced on an ego trip
and the impact of losing her legally and almost physically i feel hit him like a ton of bricks

He has lied so much just to keep her with him...every time naira mentions leaving him...
he drags her bag etc throwing the suitcase...accepting the baby he ddn want magically...
declaring he would by the law of court not have anything to do with his family just to keep her safe

So in a way his decision of saving naira sort of make sense for me coz he has become someone who will put her first
just to never experience losing her
he ddn even allow himself to mourn his kid properly...he just forced himself to be happy around her

also i agree i dont buy his reason for doing it they should have shown the doc and nurse saying that naira would go into shock and lose her memory they ddn have proper scenes like that it was too rushed 
or  a funeral even for the kaira baby??? 


i was talking generally about the actors dear..bec every reasoning is attacked with "you like so and so thats why you support him/her" yes to an extent we do this mistake of overlooking certain faults but dont we do it in normal life too? its ok ...i also liked kaira , i dont dislike keesh either..once upon a time i was a huge fan of the serial and its actors..i have a certain emotional attachment to it , and somewhere the storytelling connects me to it..i may or may not like everything..nyhow i sincerely feel that the forum overreacted too much..

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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 12:45am | IP Logged
Kartik's obession on naira made him do all this, a proper conclusion to this track.
Ultimately his obession made him to pay and his love has  to suffer now.

Keesh, reaction is understandable, still I'm not in their favour.

But shehzad is a one hell of a actor, naksh's fatherly feeling definitely conveyed with his natural performance. Definitely he is going to be best father could forsee. 

But as a brother I say somewhere old( pre-wedding) naksh has lost even though in the end yes epi he melted down but which is of no use now.




Edited by Ajscinesonadar - 09 February 2019 at 1:38am

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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 1:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Fari_15

The episode was really good. So glad the revelation wasn't dragged till the last 5 minutes.

That was one heck of a slap LOL, but he deserves it in my opinion. I loved how the minute Kartik looked up, he had this realization in his eyes that Keesh knew everything and it was all over. Mohsin's eyes are so expressive.

No offense to Mohena, but I didn't feel much for Keerti today because her dialogue delivery was really poor. Maybe it was only me, but the dialogues lacked that connect which would make you feel sorry for a character. Her delivery seemed really robotic.

Naksh was good. I liked his anger but again he could have said something like how could you put me through the same situation, having experienced it yourself minutes ago or that how he was made to stand like a guest in his own baby's naming ceremony.
Rather they were given dialogues which revolved around Naira...

Shivangi was awesome in the last scene. The way she hugged the baby and just kept repeating you are my baby whilst everyone kept shouting from outside. It was like those scenes in the separation track where she would put headphones and be lost in her own thoughts, muting rest of the world.

I feel so bad for Kaira. The coming week would be so emotional. The way Kartik tried to hold on to her, but she didn't let him. Also the fact that everyone was bashing him yet he was only concerned for Naira.

Shivin had very few dialogues today yet your heart goes out for Kaira, As you said, Mohsin has this ability that you just can't dislike him. Yesterday itself I was like Kartik deserves this treatment, etc, etc, and minutes before your post, I tweeted how the family should understand where he was coming from.

I am angry at the cvs for making Kartik stoop to this level. Now hes just a brother and a husband who has betrayed his family for his selfish reasons. What happened to the father who lost his baby girl? The family doesn't need to forgive him for his actions but they can still empathize with him, even if its just for a scene. He held his baby and minutes later the baby was declared dead. What he did is inexcusable but don't let his mistakes overshadow his loss. Can't the Goenkas do something in remembrance of that baby. Arrange a puja, make a huge donation, whatever.

Kaira had that baby for 7 months. I hope they are given a chance to mourn for their loss together, even its just for one scene.



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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 9:57am | IP Logged
@Anya

When I said Edward Cullen vibes I meant his expressions and that he is so fair. (white like a vampire) LOL

But you analyzed it well. He can be controlling of Naira, manipulate things and be scary at times like a vampire. What happens is everyone is overtaken by his looks so we overlook these traits because somewhere the audience gets hypnotized(mesmerized) looking at him so they accept whatever he does and justifies it.

No matter what Naira didn't deserve to be in this situation. I do feel bad for her like I felt bad for Naksh and Keerti. For her this is the only baby she knows and has gotten attached. Imagine raising your baby and all of a sudden you find out that child is not yours. That is hard to digest.

I think there is mutual understanding between Keerti, Naksh, and Naira. They have a different relation and care for each other and wouldn't let anything bad happen to each other.

I don't want the storyline to rely on Naira being ill all the time. I think that in real life we just can't faint every time or lose our memory when there is a problem. For the writers this is the easy way out. We have to be able to deal with and sort out the issues. We need some resilience otherwise every problem will feel like climbing a mountain. We all need survival skills. Not everyone is given the option to be rich, not have to work or have constant family support with them.

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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 12:47pm | IP Logged
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i was talking generally about the actors dear..bec every reasoning is attacked with "you like so and so thats why you support him/her" yes to an extent we do this mistake of overlooking certain faults but dont we do it in normal life too? its ok ...i also liked kaira , i dont dislike keesh either..once upon a time i was a huge fan of the serial and its actors..i have a certain emotional attachment to it , and somewhere the storytelling connects me to it..i may or may not like everything..nyhow i sincerely feel that the forum overreacted too much..

Oh yes i saw those arguments 
LOL
i think that there has been a lot of attacking going on

lately...


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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 1:04pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Ajscinesonadar

Kartik's obession on naira made him do all this, a proper conclusion to this track.
Ultimately his obession made him to pay and his love has  to suffer now.

Keesh, reaction is understandable, still I'm not in their favour.

But shehzad is a one hell of a actor, naksh's fatherly feeling definitely conveyed with his natural performance. Definitely he is going to be best father could forsee. 

But as a brother I say somewhere old( pre-wedding) naksh has lost even though in the end yes epi he melted down but which is of no use now.



I think that, kartik and naira need some time apart. Like no texting, no phone calls, no leaps...just some time to be individuals rather than kaira... 
Like i am ok with them missing each other and dream sequences...

Hence why i am so pro memory loss...this break away from kaira will be good for keesh as well they need their own plot line... 

I dont have a problem with kartik's obsession 
or his extreme love for her if u can call it that... 
what is annoying is how poorly is how these tracks are handled...

baby track ddn garner trp hence they killed the baby...
and repeated naira getting sick...for the tenth time...in like past 6 monthsLOL

Like can kartik just be damn happy and normal for two seconds without him crying and looking like a puppy that was kicked

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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 1:16pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by rose2015

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When I said Edward Cullen vibes I meant his expressions and that he is so fair. (white like a vampire) LOL 
ahhLOL not really he smiles more and cries more, edward brooded a lot. As for being pasty ogosh i cringe i have an hdtv they make him so pasty and plaster his face with powder sometimesConfused

But you analyzed it well. He can be controlling of Naira, manipulate things and be scary at times like a vampire. What happens is everyone is overtaken by his looks so we overlook these traits because somewhere the audience gets hypnotized(mesmerized) looking at him so they accept whatever he does and justifies it.

--I think that if he wasnt attractive and they showed us this show with some thriller elements he would be scaryLOL


No matter what Naira didn't deserve to be in this situation. I do feel bad for her like I felt bad for Naksh and Keerti. For her this is the only baby she knows and has gotten attached. Imagine raising your baby and all of a sudden you find out that child is not yours. That is hard to digest.

I think there is mutual understanding between Keerti, Naksh, and Naira. They have a different relation and care for each other and wouldn't let anything bad happen to each other.

I don't want the storyline to rely on Naira being ill all the time. I think that in real life we just can't faint every time or lose our memory when there is a problem. For the writers this is the easy way out. We have to be able to deal with and sort out the issues. We need some resilience otherwise every problem will feel like climbing a mountain. We all need survival skills. Not everyone is given the option to be rich, not have to work or have constant family support with them.

--I think her blood clot reoccurring will cause the memory loss like it was before her surgery hence kartik's need to keep her stress free...this is not really explained honestly...
they show us conflicting shit...like in the gayu track the doc says shes cured...then when trp dipped a lil they brought in oh she cnt get pregnant coz shel get sick...then made her sick againLOL now

I think there is alot of potential in showing naira living stress(goenka) free for a bit by having lost her memory... and a doc being like if she gets her memory back shel die right so kartik doesnt see her anymore...
naira moves on lives in rishikesh 
nobody tells her about her being naira kartik instructed all of them...naira is tina again... but she goes on some dance competition out and kartik left his family unable to look at them after what he did... and naira meets him and likes himLOL all on her own...and is attracted to him...
completely utterly in love wid him and he rejects her so she decides to move on(With some dude) and that gets his attentionLOL how lit
there is so much potential for all of that and keep the circus away for a while...like in this separation make kartik have opened his own company and is super successful...
have manish sneakily watching him and being proud of his success...have kartik keeping an eye on keesh and krish and being their silent guardian angel, and sending gifts etc to them...




 

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