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Reliving the iconic Sujal Garewal- Dominance in Love <3 -UPDATED (Page 24)

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 8:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sweet_wish

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Okay I've a question:
What if Sujal had died n Kashish survived in the accident?? How wud Kashish react knowing that the killer died while trying to protect her life??
How wud she react when she finally comes to know pf his innocence??


She cries for a few episodes, but then she forgets him and marry with someone elseAngry



LMAO... That is ekta's perception...
Lol... I am still laughing so hard!!

But seriously how do u think she will react at Sujal's death, the Kashish whose entire center of being was Sujal, not ekta's mahan bimbo!!

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by pearl.white

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Hey Sohu n Dexter
Love u both!!

Sex cube raise to power sex cube= sex raise to power 9 times sex.
I hope I am using the indices properly!!
Or maybe hottie has completely erased my mind n filled it with love.

So; we are discussing kashish today!
Honestly, I pity her. She had the ambrosia of his love, she even understood its purity and depth but still failed to surrender herself due to her inner conflicts.
In the revenge track, many times her guilt to destroy Sujal was reflected and thus made her angry at herself fir empathising with her husband's killer and it renewed her vigour to avenge Piyush with even more furiosity.
I do not have as much problem with her for crossing every moral bound in her revenge to the extent of even killing him for such was this bleeding love hatred relationship- it went to extremes!!
You cannot justify either Sujal's self destructing n sacrificing love or Kashish's horrendous hatred!!

My problem lied with the Kashish post truth revelation. Not once did she spare a thought towards his feelings. Not once she thought how he must have felt when he came to know of her betrayal!
Where was the Kashish who had hated Sujal yet she was so helpless when she witnessed his extreme love in the form of his wounds that she completely melted?? Where was the Kashish who cried reading his diary??
Where was the Kashish who tried killing herself along with him so that she could finally finish this story, finish all the cinfusions n emotions??
She could never hate him fully despite having every reason in her perspective??
She never denied his love in the entire revenge game. She would proudfully boast of his love even after believing him to be a killer!!!

If we keep up with her character, she should have been destroyed after knowing Suhal's innocence, after realising the crimes she had done against an innocent man who loved her to insanity!!
Her guilt would have killed her soul and she would have NEVER, I repeat NEVER been able to meet either her own or Sujal's eyes!! I dont care if the jerk forgave her but she shud never have been able to grant herself forgiveness??
She cud decide Sujal's punishment for killing Piyush then wat about her own punishment for killing Sujal's soul??


And coming to hottie n his love... Hayyeee...
I doubt there is anything in the world that can measure his love.
Even all the stars in the milky way galaxy wint make up for his love!!
And value of his love can be understood by any woman, regardless her age!

I mentioned my grandma earlier in the first thread stating her a Sujal lover. Yesterday , I showed her Reporter telling her its Sujal's new show..
And I'll quote her exact words when she reminscised Kth saying that
"Agar itna pyaar aur kadar karne wala pati mujhe mila hota toh mai uske charan dhoke piti"

Such is the love Sujal garners!!!


Yes its is about kashish today, when you are discussing about sujal's love, its incomplete to leave kashish and elaborate about him. These two, their actions and reactions were interwined, there was exactly nothing, i repeat not even a single plot in the show which made them react and conclude into a fair decision, these two were so much divulged in their own perceptions that they used to end up destroying each other, and later on sujal used to be the savior, he would damage and repair, damage and repair, and kashish would damage and damage some more unless sujal goes on the verge of self destruction again.

As you said, how do one justify sujal's selfless and obsessed love for her, its not that men do not sacrfice for their lady love, yes they do, and he also did the same, but the kind of sacrifices and hardships he took upon him, to let her get what she wanted were inhuman, and cannot be justified, it was self mutilation , not physically but psychologically, and sujal wronged him, he was his own enemy, and he was proud enough to do that. This very fact kashish knew, she knew that he has no boundaries attached to him when it comes to her and that is why the seed of misconception developed in her mind, had he not be so poisonous and obvious with his extreme attempts, i doubt kashish would misunderstand him, heck she did not even keep any man's love, not even piyush's love over his love, so it was a huge thing when she perceived his love as something beyond life, death, and morality.

The kashish who read his diary and could not help but surrender to him, the kashish who looked into the mirror and covers the mirror so that she cannot see her own reflection with sujal being her center of gravity, the kashish who betrayed him under his nose, and still boasted proudly about him being the only one who loved her to that extent of insanity , was far more impactful, fathomable, understandable than that off the kashish whose intensity and pain dilutes once she ome sto know the truth.

I mean how was it possible, that she did not feel like killing herself ? she wanted to do that even when she hated him, the thought that how will he feel when he will know about her betrayal used to eat her soul up, she wouldn't sleep for nights, wouldn't be able to face him properly, the same kashish does not have any kind of repentance once she actually knows that whatever she did was henious, cruel and it was he who encouraged her to continue . Like what the hell ? I seriously do not understand butchering kashish just at the climatic point of the most celebrated track of this show, and it just killed everything, the disappointment of seeing fairness, justification and a deserved apology for sujal. I mean it was a joke that we did not even see kashish telling him a sorry, yes he's a jerk he can happily boast about her being as pure as gold, but this repentance and disgust for her crimes should be self generated, and it was not there, that is where kashish as a character failed. After 290 episodes, the intensity between sujal-kashish just went into waters because one character was glorified to an extreme level ( sujal ) and kashish was just butchered beyond any justification. The best thing still was that sujal's glorification was a master stroke here, it was not on the face, it had depth, poignancy, and more like a slow poison. at a point he just makes you believe that yes love exists and everything is possible if you are in love, there are no give and take relationships, its either give or just take, where he was the giver ofcourse.


By the way, i proved it that i am so bad in algebra, LMAO, yes sex sex sex to the power of cube of sex is actually powers multiplying and not adding, and look what i did ..ROFL

your grandma is a sweet hert pearl, and why she , we all wanted kashish to kiss his feet, heck why kashish only, her whole family and all the generations of her khandan deserved to kiss sujal's feet , husband like him hardly exists, and that is the distinction between balaji show and reality.



Your every word has beautifully summed up this bleeding love tale.
This love had no definition, no qualms, no demands. Both of them were extreme individuals n had Kashish not been butchered after 290 episodes, it would have been the greatest love sagaa ever.
Although now it still remains the best male lover in the history of tv.

Ideally, the Kashish who constantly suffered from guilt over her betrayal to a killer; should have been enveloped from a guilt so deep that every effort from even Sujal's side would not have been able to bring her back.

And our dear wonderful Sujal!! Why oh why did he kept on mutilating his soul for her sake. Did he never envision Kashish's guilt on knowing the truth? Did he never thought , hypothetically speaking, that Kashish would die with grief over his sufferings, when she comes to know of his innocence!

This love which Sujal had was so unrealistic but was portrayed in a believable manner!!
Wish the cvs had worked on Kashish's redemption though.


Sujal's craze hampered ur algebra dear!!
Wink

A very good point raised there pearl, that didn't sujal even think that how his sacrifices will make kashish disgust her own self and how will she face the world and him after this ? 
And the answer is NO, Sujal did not think in that way, because as i always say his thinking was never rational, he never thought about the obvious consequences, or may be in such a case he would never let kashish feel guilty, which he actually did, and that bimbo indeed is shameless to not even seek forgiveness from him

Sujal's love as sujal says is generated by his desires, what he needs, how he thinks, and he needs and thinks only Kashish, that is what he is, yes he can be called selfish, because only because he loves her, and needs her happiness doe not mean he can wrong  so many people at a time, but then the jerk easily justifies his stance, he had dedicated his life to her, and he was serious when he meant that " abb mai kya karoo agar meri khushiya tumhari khushiyo ki mohtaaj hai kashish ' ?

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by pearl.white

Originally posted by Sweet_wish

Originally posted by pearl.white


Okay I've a question:
What if Sujal had died n Kashish survived in the accident?? How wud Kashish react knowing that the killer died while trying to protect her life??
How wud she react when she finally comes to know pf his innocence??


She cries for a few episodes, but then she forgets him and marry with someone elseAngry



LMAO... That is ekta's perception...
Lol... I am still laughing so hard!!

But seriously how do u think she will react at Sujal's death, the Kashish whose entire center of being was Sujal, not ekta's mahan bimbo!!
But seriously how do u think she will react at Sujal's death, the Kashish whose entire center of being was Sujal, not ekta's mahan bimbo!![/QUOTE]
Ekta being a woman, how did she show kashish engaging and trying to marry 3 different men within 3 month's of sujal's death ? that is too disrespectful and shameful for the kind of love sujal gave kashish, and his wife was busy changing men Ouch

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:17am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sweet_wish

Originally posted by pearl.white


Okay I've a question:
What if Sujal had died n Kashish survived in the accident?? How wud Kashish react knowing that the killer died while trying to protect her life??
How wud she react when she finally comes to know pf his innocence??

She cries for a few episodes, but then she forgets him and marry with someone else Angry

this is so hilarious , even after aluwalia's death, she married somebody else.LOL

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:35am | IP Logged
@pearl and SoHu
About sujal slapping kashish, after veena's death-

This is another high point in the show. And i felt this was the ONLY JUSTIFIED slap in the whole damn show. 

My arguments in Sujal's defense.

1) When do we tend to slap a person ? We do it when we actually have enough rights over the person and we are clear from our side, we know that our stand is what it is and there will never be any other side of our stand. 

When sujal slapped kashish, it was more like the failure of a son in front of a husband, yes he privileged his wife more than his mother, in every point of his life. If we think from the scratch, he drowned himself in alcohol for kashish ignoring veena's plight, he burnt himself in order to seek revenge for the injustices happened with him again ignoing veena, he not only attained a feat of self destructon but solitude and isolation too, he had made himself so hate able for people so that he can hide his heart break in his love, again this is where he privileged kashish over veena. Again he chose to go to new york to save kashish bmbo's izzat ignoring his mother's plight, and after the marriage, whatever he did was just outright one sided and crazy, he did not think about R&G, his mother, his brother and chose to go to jail and give a lifetime scratch on his mother's name that her son is a fraud and killer ? 

Sujal i love because he defined love of a man, but in that course he lost as a son, he could not be fair with others, his love for kashish ruined his rationality, his ability to judge what is right and wron, and no self mutilation and taking every crap a woman gives you is not what he was born for, he never deserved that. He was so unfair to do that, but i still understand, the heart of sujal was stabbed, it bled, he id not know how to defend his love, all he could do is ask for kashish's happiness and he did what he felt was right.

Now, he trusted kashis, and went out, and this is what had stuck him hard. The slap was not on kashish but he slapped himself, that how did he become so blind in kashish's love and trust that he failed to realize that kashish was never responsible enough to take matters in hand and keep it within the range of normality, she always did blunders with his life, and he still trusted her.

He could not afford to to stay numb, and he needed t jolt that button in kashish that this is the only woman who supported me through every hardship of my life, even when my own existence was disgusting for others. Veena trusted him, his character, his intentions, never needed a proof to justify her son, an the same son felt dejected, it was horrible for him that for the first time he had got a chance to protect his mother and her emotions and what did he do, he blindly trusted his wife and the consequences were he was on the verge of losing his mother.

Sujal even tells kashish that, my life is yours, and trust me even if you ask for it i will never complain, but why cannot you understand kashish it is my mother, and the irony was kashish was again ding self pity and defending herself, this woman never failed to appall me.

The best scene of this episode was Rishi and sujal hugging each other and bawling like grade two kids whose mother was far from them, that was such a beauty, both were bawling and finding it hard to talk and Shabbir and Raj just nailed it.

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:37am | IP Logged
Originally posted by .SoHu.

Originally posted by DexterRocks

Originally posted by sweety1994

congratulations for the new thread..hope this one also reaches 150 pages.
Send this link to SBS and SBB...they too have to know that Sujal Garewal is immortal

i do not know how to send it . But is it possible to make Rajeev read the thread and give some bytes. I 

Just came across this comment on page 10 and it got my hopes so so high..Haaye is it possible dexter? Can hottie know how much he is missed?.Cry
Okay I'm going a bit overboard but imagine raj taking our names in the byteDay Dreaming


Raj is in twitter, we can tweet him. but i don't have a twitter account.
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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:43am | IP Logged
Originally posted by pearl.white

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Amna beautifully played the conflicting emotions in Kashish. You could literally see Piyush's widwa in a moment n Sujal's wife in the next without using camera tricks of one dressed in white n other in black!
But the viewers could never empathise with her despite her being right in her own pov because Sujal's love n suffering had grown beyond insanity. It was sad that she on her front was fighting the feelings of loving a killer & yet not an ounce of sympathy for her was created!
She tried to take out her frustrations in Aki but Aki gave her much better than he got. He used to utter all the logical things which she refused to listen!!

That consummation night was something so beautiful that words fail to describe it.
Sujal - Kashish had ceased to exist in that moment, it was only love.
The best part was that she slept with a man who she believed to be a murderer and yet could not bear the wounds on him and she tried to envelope all his sufferings in her love.

Sujal simply let go of all his emotions, his person did not exist; her tears were killing him; making all his sufferings worhless for had every wound of Sujal been given lips, they would have prayed for her happiness. And this dire need for her happiness was being denied and he simply soothed her with all his love, all his care, all his soul...


Okay I've a question:
What if Sujal had died n Kashish survived in the accident?? How wud Kashish react knowing that the killer died while trying to protect her life??
How wud she react when she finally comes to know pf his innocence??

Akshat was a fair person, and he was the only one apart from Rishi who could put her at her real place , she should have realized that she is no queen elizabeth that she can treat sujal like a doormat and he is not a fool who takes every crap from her, if he takes it then only because as a person he had just killed the fighter in him, he was exhausted of fighting it again and again, proving himself again and again, the innocence, the essence which sujal had was all killed by kashish, yes he did forgive her, but still a part of him was always broken, never forgetting what she did to him and how he had tolerated it.

If Sujal had ied and kashish survived then-

Kashish would be guilty but she would not be devastated, knowing how cruel she was, she would may be not even mourn over him as his wedded wife. But now if she would get to know the truth after his death, i think she would go mad, i do see kashish losing it at a point, she probably would try and kill herself or go for a lifetime isolation, like a dead corpse .

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Posted: 18 May 2015 at 10:43am | IP Logged
Great analysis of Naina's character Dexter's. I always preferred Naina's character over Kashish's. Three major reasons.
1) She was selfish. For most part of the show, all she cared for was her mission. But she was open and honest about it.

2) She actually had a  genuine reason to be angry with Rajveer. Of course she did end up behaving like a brat.

3) She stayed true to him till her character ended in the show. Did not keep changing men every week.

Btw in the episodes leading up to Rajveer's death, she had begun showing the early signs of love. She was so cute. The scene where she gifts him a handkerchief Embarrassed

I genuinely wish they could have given some time for their love to mature and evolve!

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