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Reliving the iconic Sujal Garewal- Dominance in Love <3 -UPDATED (Page 11)

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 12:13pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by DexterRocks

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@ Dexter
See this is what I mean. Sujal brought all the miseries upon himself by loving the bimbo.
Even Mehak n Akshat cud never help him or gather the guts to spil out Kashish's beans.
Mehak n Aki kept in hoping that one day kashish mata would smell the coffee and see his eternal love n return some happiness to Sujal.
How I wish, Sujal had extracted himself from this situation, flown to London after breaking Kashish's engagement n left the bimbo n her father to their fates. Cg cud just go n die- absolutely worthless father. But then that wont be Sujal, right??


Okay, I have a hypothetical situation. Whatif we replace Sujal with Rajveer? i.e. if instead Rajveer Garewal had fallen for Kashish??
a)How would the story proceed from the beginning? How much wud Rajveer endure for Kashish?
b)How would Rajveer react at Piyush death and the subsequent story?
c) What abt Kashish's revenge? Would he bear it?


Mahek and Akshat favored kashish more, so whats the use of complaining, kashish is one lucky bimbo, because he had a queen size ego and she had support of people near her.

I will blame sujal completely, he is no joke and he is not supposed to ruin his reputation and life for this bimbo, especially when he got nothing but humiliation, accusations in return. Can you believe , kashish even blamed him for trying to ruin sanjana's life, when he had no idea about sanjana loving him. Kashish was sick

the Answers-

a) If Rajveer would be in Sujal's place, Rajveer would let go kashish after her marriage and continue with the proceedings of his life
b) Rajveer would be equally broken for kashish the way sujal was, but Rajveer would never propose her on tervi, and neither would Rajveer be so vocal about his love the way sujal was
c) Rajveer would bear her revenge i guess, but atleast try to show her another perception, unlike sujal who never tried to prove himself innocent


Rajveer was never extreme pearl, he was a giver too, but he gave whatever he knew that was right and just, he was fair but Sujal is a jerk, he had no logical justifications for his sacrifices, and he was in short sadistic, loving somebody is fine, but destroying yourself for her, it is pathetic, because you might mean a lot to people whom you do not think about.



Woah.. So had Sujal been as sane as Rajveer, we could have atleast seen Kashish repenting.
But Rajveer is more the silent sufferers type - he would have never vocalised his love n kashish wud hv married Piyush. After this, Rajveer will rightfully call it quits n when Piyush dies he would hv given all help to Kashish to lead a smooth life whilst himself remaining in backgroundd.

And if bimbo had still considered Rajveer as Piyush's murder ( for u can never underestimate her foolishness n self importance) and somehow married him; Rajveer might leave her n go away after the revelation. of the revenge bullsh*t.
Atleast he would have made her grovel for a lpng time for trust and respect in a relationship mattered much more to him.


I want to exchange Kabir with Sujal too, but right now Kabir is too much of an enigma to predict his reactions.
He is yet to fall for his true love.

P.S. But the sane reactions of Rajveer might not create tje madness of fans as in Sujall's. insane ones.

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 12:17pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by DexterRocks

Originally posted by pearl.white

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girls, just for a comparison, whom did you think suffered the most, Sujal or captain Rajveer ?


The jerk Sujal suffered on his own accord while honourable captain was made to suffer by his guillt, his love, his. friendship, his contradicting emotions,his colleagues (really, at one point I was angry enough at the entire kma).

So the captain suffered more because he actually did not want to suffer. Whereas our insane selfless jerk happily bore everything for Mrs. Raheja's whims!!
the captain got the most unfair ending , the way he died and that last teaching to his cadets, the hug with naina, failing to confess that he loved her, and yeah taking the traitor tag to save his students, everything was so depressing. He was a celebrated and major with pride and honor, the way his patriotism and dedication was put into test was so unfair.

Sujal atleast had his own say in his life, he chose to suffer, that made him feel better because he never expected anything in return of his love, but captain did expect to see KMA progress, naveen's respect being back in the army, naina's success, him being able to convey what he felt.

Why is Raj always stuck with depressing ends of his characters ? Sujal, Rajveer, Aamir, vivan and raunak, everybody had depressing ends



Absolutely correct!
Sujal atleast got a good ending, he finally had Kashish and he got his closure. We can imagine it both ways- either he lived n was happy wid kashish or he died that day.

But Rajveer's story was incomplete. There was so much remaining. Getting his n his friend's honour back, eliminating traitors, guiding cadets and that personal burried desire of someday gathering enough courage to confess his feelings to Naina.

Personally, I hated Vivaan by the end of Table no. 21.
I abhor ragging and hats off to Rajeev for making me hate a character played by him.
I enjoyed the shades of Vivaan as the film progressed. His deep love for his wife, his seemingly harmless lies, his desperation, his agony at his wife's betrayal and finslly the cruellity displayed- the man can portray a gamut of emotions.


Rajveer's story was incomplete, the end still breaks my heart into pieces, h got nothing in life, he lost his honor, he never could get naina's love, he could not see naveen's honor being back, but his sacrifice was such a big one. he sacrificed for his whole nation, not only for his lady love, but his students, the cadets of KMA, the future of KMA, and he had to die the death of a traitor.

Vivaa, well did i hate him , yes ? the film had me bawling for Akram, the way Vivaan and co tortured him, so inhuman and pathetic, they did not even pity at the young boy's state, and whatever happened with them was right indeed. Instead they deserved worser. Karma is a bitch, Vivaan loved his wife the most and she betrays him under is nose, basically his life was destroyed. I was so happy, that these two were made to suffer.

Rajeev is impeccable when he is given intense roles, and Vivaan indeed had so many layers, and he excelled here, be it the innocence, romance, the rogue, the guilt and regret in him, everything was so fabulous. One of my favorite scenes were hen he was asked to shave off his wife's head, goshLOL




Bang on dear!!

Rajveer ki kahaani adhuri reh gayi.

My fav. scene for Vivaan was when he came to know of his wife's betrayal. Hit him hard in the gut. He was so torn.
Also when he sees Akram in the climax. His regret and complete breakdown. Take a bow, Mr. Raj K.

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Posted: 15 May 2015 at 10:12pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by DexterRocks

Originally posted by pearl.white

Originally posted by DexterRocks

Originally posted by pearl.white

Originally posted by DexterRocks

girls, just for a comparison, whom did you think suffered the most, Sujal or captain Rajveer ?


The jerk Sujal suffered on his own accord while honourable captain was made to suffer by his guillt, his love, his. friendship, his contradicting emotions,his colleagues (really, at one point I was angry enough at the entire kma).

So the captain suffered more because he actually did not want to suffer. Whereas our insane selfless jerk happily bore everything for Mrs. Raheja's whims!!
the captain got the most unfair ending , the way he died and that last teaching to his cadets, the hug with naina, failing to confess that he loved her, and yeah taking the traitor tag to save his students, everything was so depressing. He was a celebrated and major with pride and honor, the way his patriotism and dedication was put into test was so unfair.

Sujal atleast had his own say in his life, he chose to suffer, that made him feel better because he never expected anything in return of his love, but captain did expect to see KMA progress, naveen's respect being back in the army, naina's success, him being able to convey what he felt.

Why is Raj always stuck with depressing ends of his characters ? Sujal, Rajveer, Aamir, vivan and raunak, everybody had depressing ends
 


Absolutely correct!
Sujal atleast got a good ending, he finally had Kashish and he got his closure. We can imagine it both ways- either he lived n was happy wid kashish or he died that day.

But Rajveer's story was incomplete. There was so much remaining. Getting his n his friend's honour back, eliminating traitors, guiding cadets and that personal burried desire of someday gathering enough courage to confess his feelings to Naina.

Personally, I hated Vivaan by the end of Table no. 21.
I abhor ragging and hats off to Rajeev for making me hate a character played by him.
I enjoyed the shades of Vivaan as the film progressed. His deep love for his wife, his seemingly harmless lies, his desperation, his agony at his wife's betrayal and finslly the cruellity displayed- the man can portray a gamut of emotions.

Rajveer's story was incomplete, the end still breaks my heart into pieces, h got nothing in life, he lost his honor, he never could get naina's love, he could not see naveen's honor being back, but his sacrifice was such a big one. he sacrificed for his whole nation, not only for his lady love, but his students, the cadets of KMA, the future of KMA, and he had to die the death of a traitor.

Vivaa, well did i hate him , yes ? the film had me bawling for Akram, the way Vivaan and co tortured him, so inhuman and pathetic, they did not even pity at the young boy's state, and whatever happened with them was right indeed. Instead they deserved worser. Karma is a bitch, Vivaan loved his wife the most and she betrays him under is nose, basically his life was destroyed. I was so happy, that these two were made to suffer.

Rajeev is impeccable when he is given intense roles, and Vivaan indeed had so many layers, and he excelled here, be it the innocence, romance, the rogue, the guilt and regret in him, everything was so fabulous. One of my favorite scenes were hen he was asked to shave off his wife's head, gosh LOL

Vivan was so cruel in Table No.21 but He was cute and hot in the beginning Wink Blushing
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Th last Rajveer Naina scene makes me bawl even after so many years. When he is talking about all the things that have been taken away from him (his honor, his friend etc) he stops short of saying mera pyar. Oh that was amazing

Cry

Rajveer also did take a lot of shit from Naina. But then again Rajveer had killed Naina's brother. Naina's anger and Rajveer's guilt both were justified. Naina went overboard with it, but she wasn't half as crazy as Kashish.

Also from time to time Rajveer did show Naina her place and make her realize his mistakes. The only thing he doesn't to is express his feelings for her.

In some ways I am more at peace with Rajveer's death than Sujal's death. Naina did stay true to him and even on her last day at KMA she rememvers and honors his memory. After Sujal's death, Kashish started playing musical chairs with the men in her life.

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Originally posted by DexterRocks

Originally posted by pearl.white

Originally posted by DexterRocks

Originally posted by pearl.white

Originally posted by DexterRocks

girls, just for a comparison, whom did you think suffered the most, Sujal or captain Rajveer ?


The jerk Sujal suffered on his own accord while honourable captain was made to suffer by his guillt, his love, his. friendship, his contradicting emotions,his colleagues (really, at one point I was angry enough at the entire kma).

So the captain suffered more because he actually did not want to suffer. Whereas our insane selfless jerk happily bore everything for Mrs. Raheja's whims!!
the captain got the most unfair ending , the way he died and that last teaching to his cadets, the hug with naina, failing to confess that he loved her, and yeah taking the traitor tag to save his students, everything was so depressing. He was a celebrated and major with pride and honor, the way his patriotism and dedication was put into test was so unfair.

Sujal atleast had his own say in his life, he chose to suffer, that made him feel better because he never expected anything in return of his love, but captain did expect to see KMA progress, naveen's respect being back in the army, naina's success, him being able to convey what he felt.

Why is Raj always stuck with depressing ends of his characters ? Sujal, Rajveer, Aamir, vivan and raunak, everybody had depressing ends
 


Absolutely correct!
Sujal atleast got a good ending, he finally had Kashish and he got his closure. We can imagine it both ways- either he lived n was happy wid kashish or he died that day.

But Rajveer's story was incomplete. There was so much remaining. Getting his n his friend's honour back, eliminating traitors, guiding cadets and that personal burried desire of someday gathering enough courage to confess his feelings to Naina.

Personally, I hated Vivaan by the end of Table no. 21.
I abhor ragging and hats off to Rajeev for making me hate a character played by him.
I enjoyed the shades of Vivaan as the film progressed. His deep love for his wife, his seemingly harmless lies, his desperation, his agony at his wife's betrayal and finslly the cruellity displayed- the man can portray a gamut of emotions.

Rajveer's story was incomplete, the end still breaks my heart into pieces, h got nothing in life, he lost his honor, he never could get naina's love, he could not see naveen's honor being back, but his sacrifice was such a big one. he sacrificed for his whole nation, not only for his lady love, but his students, the cadets of KMA, the future of KMA, and he had to die the death of a traitor.

Vivaa, well did i hate him , yes ? the film had me bawling for Akram, the way Vivaan and co tortured him, so inhuman and pathetic, they did not even pity at the young boy's state, and whatever happened with them was right indeed. Instead they deserved worser. Karma is a bitch, Vivaan loved his wife the most and she betrays him under is nose, basically his life was destroyed. I was so happy, that these two were made to suffer.

Rajeev is impeccable when he is given intense roles, and Vivaan indeed had so many layers, and he excelled here, be it the innocence, romance, the rogue, the guilt and regret in him, everything was so fabulous. One of my favorite scenes were hen he was asked to shave off his wife's head, gosh LOL
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Guys, read this article. It is howlarious!!! LMAO...
Tfs pearl...its Rofl...Bang on.
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I watched episode 10, 11 &12 yesterday at a stretch and what I realised what that this man called sujal garewal looked absolutely CUTE in it. The entire palampur sequence , sujal making kashish drink water from the well, the room sequence was so so beautiful. And rajeev had this amazing innocent yet passionate look. 
The confession was chooo cutu cutu. Haaye. Thoda sa pyaar hua hai thoda hair baaki *_*

P.s: left right left airs on Sony pal nowadays. Was just randomlyshuffling the channels, came across the repeat.. Omg rajveer *_*


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Originally posted by DexterRocks

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@ Dexter
See this is what I mean. Sujal brought all the miseries upon himself by loving the bimbo.
Even Mehak n Akshat cud never help him or gather the guts to spil out Kashish's beans.
Mehak n Aki kept in hoping that one day kashish mata would smell the coffee and see his eternal love n return some happiness to Sujal.
How I wish, Sujal had extracted himself from this situation, flown to London after breaking Kashish's engagement n left the bimbo n her father to their fates. Cg cud just go n die- absolutely worthless father. But then that wont be Sujal, right??


Okay, I have a hypothetical situation. Whatif we replace Sujal with Rajveer? i.e. if instead Rajveer Garewal had fallen for Kashish??
a)How would the story proceed from the beginning? How much wud Rajveer endure for Kashish?
b)How would Rajveer react at Piyush death and the subsequent story?
c) What abt Kashish's revenge? Would he bear it?

Mahek and Akshat favored kashish more, so whats the use of complaining, kashish is one lucky bimbo, because he had a queen size ego and she had support of people near her.

I will blame sujal completely, he is no joke and he is not supposed to ruin his reputation and life for this bimbo, especially when he got nothing but humiliation, accusations in return. Can you believe , kashish even blamed him for trying to ruin sanjana's life, when he had no idea about sanjana loving him. Kashish was sick 

the Answers-

a) If Rajveer would be in Sujal's place, Rajveer would let go kashish after her marriage and continue with the proceedings of his life
b) Rajveer would be equally broken for kashish the way sujal was, but Rajveer would never propose her on tervi, and neither would Rajveer be so vocal about his love the way sujal was
c) Rajveer would bear her revenge i guess, but atleast try to show her another perception, unlike sujal who never tried to prove himself innocent 


Rajveer was never extreme pearl, he was a giver too, but he gave whatever he knew that was right and just, he was fair but Sujal is a jerk, he had no logical justifications for his sacrifices, and he was in short sadistic, loving somebody is fine, but destroying yourself for her, it is pathetic, because you might mean a lot to people whom you do not think about.

Had rajveer been sujal, then honestly i dont know what might  have had happened. See , in terms of being a lover , rajveer and sujal were starkly different yet similar. For both, the emotions of the beloved held utmost value. Rajveer knew naina might not be able to forgive him after coming to know of naveen's death  and so he could never manage to get his feelings across to her for he knew that if he confessed there were chances that naina might have reciprocated them. Bit he did not want naina torn between her brother and her lover. Hence the confession never came. Similarly we all know what sujal did so that kashish never felt even a slight guilty of her actions i.e referring to the piyush badla track. He knew it was important for kashish to know for herself that he was innocent rather than he trying to prove it himself. He never wanted to stop the battle of piyush's vidhwa cause he knew that she deserved to know the truth all by herself, even if it might cost his life. So in both the cases the common string is the emotion of the beloved that is put up at a pedestal. The self suffering of both rajveer and sujal got escalated to a mammoth scale but for them the pain was bearable as long as both naina and kashish were fine.
Yes sujal had a greater intensity than rajveer but you just never know what rajveer might have had done had he been in sujal's position and loved kashish the way sujal did.
I might be wrong but then I feel this could be a perspective too.


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