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Jodha Akbar 11th May 2015..18 minutes in DEK + my views..Post Upd Pg-1 (Page 7)

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 8:47am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ayushimehra

Originally posted by history_geek

Originally posted by neesha19

Dear Abhay,
Thnks for your update and for your views as well. The episode was bearable but I did not get one thing..Why was Jo demanding  so much wealth...? What was the point in doing so?   There was no valid reason shown for this. Just to show how much she respected Hamida ..? It seemed so vague .

I liked Jodha yelling at Jalal today.  Good he deserved it.. Never thinks twice before humiliating Jo in public ..for whatever reasons.. You are right Abhay.  We wanted to see a strong MEH and a strong Akbar.. Tedha Akbar is also fine but  he should not take Jo for granted always.. What if she had gone to extreme and  had consumed poison or tried to commit suicide . How come he thinks she  will take all in her stride and he  has the confidence also that she loves him so much .. she will  forgive him anyways.. This Shah Iran track was mixed with Saas bahu drama.. and it lost all the glitter.. It was all lost somewhere..  

What  more we we get to watch now?? I just hope..its not a repeat of Ben track.. How I would hate it... 


Neesha,
I think she was trying to create some sort of problem / obstacle so that Jalal can not give divorce to her so easily. Perhaps, this was the reason.



Neesha Abhay, i think, Jodha was doing so, when all jewellery +wealth will finish, then she will say, More, or then Begums will put jewellery, or wealth, or when HB will give her some she will stop,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;showing, Her love was not so small, as a daughter, as a Daughter -in Law, she only wants MUM, or Mother In Law, some, thing,  which will be more precious for her. Her realtionship, with HB too much big, but cause of respect she needs her, Nishani.

( as in Tradition, we store some things for our Elders, or relgious places )




Awesome thoughts, as usual Ayushi Smile.
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It is precisely out of  this affection, love and respect she has for Hamida Begum that Jodha even overlooked the promise that she had made to the Sheshahah, against her own inner conscience. She put the exalted position of the mother above religious sentiments, above the aawam and took the decision to convert, knowing very well that she would upset Jalal.

 At that particular moment when Mariam Makani fell ill and refused food afterwards, Jodha felt that the purpose of the war, the promise she made to Jalal would be defeated, should something drastic happen to Hamida Begum. That decision would have been a tough one to make. I sometimes wonder what if Hamida Begum had died due to the 'bhook hartal' had Jodha not said 'yes' to her stubborn demands. How would Jalal have reacted?How would we as an audience have reacted?

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 9:59am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Charu.S

Originally posted by ayushimehra

Originally posted by history_geek

Originally posted by neesha19

Dear Abhay,
Thnks for your update and for your views as well. The episode was bearable but I did not get one thing..Why was Jo demanding  so much wealth...? What was the point in doing so?   There was no valid reason shown for this. Just to show how much she respected Hamida ..? It seemed so vague .

I liked Jodha yelling at Jalal today.  Good he deserved it.. Never thinks twice before humiliating Jo in public ..for whatever reasons.. You are right Abhay.  We wanted to see a strong MEH and a strong Akbar.. Tedha Akbar is also fine but  he should not take Jo for granted always.. What if she had gone to extreme and  had consumed poison or tried to commit suicide . How come he thinks she  will take all in her stride and he  has the confidence also that she loves him so much .. she will  forgive him anyways.. This Shah Iran track was mixed with Saas bahu drama.. and it lost all the glitter.. It was all lost somewhere..  

What  more we we get to watch now?? I just hope..its not a repeat of Ben track.. How I would hate it... 


Neesha,
I think she was trying to create some sort of problem / obstacle so that Jalal can not give divorce to her so easily. Perhaps, this was the reason.



Neesha Abhay, i think, Jodha was doing so, when all jewellery +wealth will finish, then she will say, More, or then Begums will put jewellery, or wealth, or when HB will give her some she will stop,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;showing, Her love was not so small, as a daughter, as a Daughter -in Law, she only wants MUM, or Mother In Law, some, thing,  which will be more precious for her. Her realtionship, with HB too much big, but cause of respect she needs her, Nishani.

( as in Tradition, we store some things for our Elders, or relgious places )




Awesome thoughts, as usual Ayushi Smile.
Clap Clap Hug
It is precisely out of  this affection, love and respect she has for Hamida Begum that Jodha even overlooked the promise that she had made to the Sheshahah, against her own inner conscience. She put the exalted position of the mother above religious sentiments, above the aawam and took the decision to convert, knowing very well that she would upset Jalal.

 At that particular moment when Mariam Makani fell ill and refused food afterwards, Jodha felt that the purpose of the war, the promise she made to Jalal would be defeated, should something drastic happen to Hamida Begum. That decision would have been a tough one to make. I sometimes wonder what if Hamida Begum had died due to the 'bhook hartal' had Jodha not said 'yes' to her stubborn demands. How would Jalal have reacted?How would we as an audience have reacted?


Charu well said, Agree CV not showed jodha in MEH,  or not  strong, or she went against Jalal, because HB put circumstances in front of her typical, GB +Ruk how many time teased.

Realy sometime i feel, how much jodha suffered in 16 cen, things were not easy for her at that time, Jalal broadness +strongness, showed a path to jodha, but way she own have traveledClap

But if we see practically feamals have to taken desesion, sometime, acc to Time Demands.

If HB had died, then All will be again  criticise Jodha, then all says  Because HB is her Mother In law,so she is doing this.if her Own Mother this situation, she soon accepts, What she wants,;;;;;;;;;;;;;everyone forgets, Jodha once not talk with MV. that situation Jodha now forgave jalal but if HB dies, Jalal not forgive Jodha, if forgives takes a more time.

But Jodha create space so easily, or Jalal +point is he knows how to use that place. so couple, bonding becomes healthy soon.

or as a women its a True reality, realtionship blance with Inlaws not a easy Job. Or we can say everyrealtion is tough to blance.

Actually problem is writers also.







Edited by ayushimehra - 12 May 2015 at 9:59am

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So Jodha is Hindu or Muslim?LOL 
i can totally understand what you are feeling. It must have been cute, but I know why you don't like it. I'd say put up with it Abhay, it is for wooing all the AkDha fans.Hug 

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 11:31am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ayushimehra

Originally posted by Charu.S

Originally posted by ayushimehra

Originally posted by history_geek

Originally posted by neesha19

Dear Abhay,
Thnks for your update and for your views as well. The episode was bearable but I did not get one thing..Why was Jo demanding  so much wealth...? What was the point in doing so?   There was no valid reason shown for this. Just to show how much she respected Hamida ..? It seemed so vague .

I liked Jodha yelling at Jalal today.  Good he deserved it.. Never thinks twice before humiliating Jo in public ..for whatever reasons.. You are right Abhay.  We wanted to see a strong MEH and a strong Akbar.. Tedha Akbar is also fine but  he should not take Jo for granted always.. What if she had gone to extreme and  had consumed poison or tried to commit suicide . How come he thinks she  will take all in her stride and he  has the confidence also that she loves him so much .. she will  forgive him anyways.. This Shah Iran track was mixed with Saas bahu drama.. and it lost all the glitter.. It was all lost somewhere..  

What  more we we get to watch now?? I just hope..its not a repeat of Ben track.. How I would hate it... 


Neesha,
I think she was trying to create some sort of problem / obstacle so that Jalal can not give divorce to her so easily. Perhaps, this was the reason.



Neesha Abhay, i think, Jodha was doing so, when all jewellery +wealth will finish, then she will say, More, or then Begums will put jewellery, or wealth, or when HB will give her some she will stop,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;showing, Her love was not so small, as a daughter, as a Daughter -in Law, she only wants MUM, or Mother In Law, some, thing,  which will be more precious for her. Her realtionship, with HB too much big, but cause of respect she needs her, Nishani.

( as in Tradition, we store some things for our Elders, or relgious places )




Awesome thoughts, as usual Ayushi Smile.
Clap Clap Hug
It is precisely out of  this affection, love and respect she has for Hamida Begum that Jodha even overlooked the promise that she had made to the Sheshahah, against her own inner conscience. She put the exalted position of the mother above religious sentiments, above the aawam and took the decision to convert, knowing very well that she would upset Jalal.

 At that particular moment when Mariam Makani fell ill and refused food afterwards, Jodha felt that the purpose of the war, the promise she made to Jalal would be defeated, should something drastic happen to Hamida Begum. That decision would have been a tough one to make. I sometimes wonder what if Hamida Begum had died due to the 'bhook hartal' had Jodha not said 'yes' to her stubborn demands. How would Jalal have reacted?How would we as an audience have reacted?


Charu well said, Agree CV not showed jodha in MEH,  or not  strong, or she went against Jalal, because HB put circumstances in front of her typical, GB +Ruk how many time teased.

Realy sometime i feel, how much jodha suffered in 16 cen, things were not easy for her at that time, Jalal broadness +strongness, showed a path to jodha, but way she own have traveledClap

But if we see practically feamals have to taken desesion, sometime, acc to Time Demands.

If HB had died, then All will be again  criticise Jodha, then all says  Because HB is her Mother In law,so she is doing this.if her Own Mother this situation, she soon accepts, What she wants,;;;;;;;;;;;;;everyone forgets, Jodha once not talk with MV. that situation Jodha now forgave jalal but if HB dies, Jalal not forgive Jodha, if forgives takes a more time.

But Jodha create space so easily, or Jalal +point is he knows how to use that place. so couple, bonding becomes healthy soon.

or as a women its a True reality, realtionship blance with Inlaws not a easy Job. Or we can say everyrealtion is tough to blance.

Actually problem is writers also.






Yes, Ayushi, I agree with you, no relationship is easy to balance without working towards making it a healthy one. Jodha has developed a great bonding with her mother-in-law. The daughter-in-law / mother-in-law bonding is a not an easy one to maintain. The daughter-in-law has to think a hundred times to make sure that she is pleasing both mother and son. One wrong step will land them up in a soup. Most often she has to bear the brunt for the mother/son fallout.

 Some of the Creatives working on the script seem to have weird opinions about solving issues in relationships especially while dealing with royalty, in a logical and healthy manner. Hence their dialogues are pathetic.Whether it be the equation between Jodha/Jalal, Rukaiyya/Jalal, Jalal/Maham, Hamida/Jalal, Jalal,Jodha/Salim, Jalal/Murad, Rukaiyya/Hamida, Rukaiyya/Salim, all of them have loopholes in the execution. This is the major flaw in the beautiful story.

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Posted: 12 May 2015 at 1:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by vinitaj27

Hey abhay
I love reading ur updates the info u provide and the views u give regardless of whether i agree with them or not. I think we all are old enough to accept that everyone is entitled to their opinion and just coz it is not same as urs doesnt mean it is wrong. The amount of effort u put into ur research n posts is unbelievable and ur posts r the only ones keeping this forum alive so dont listen to those u put u down just coz u were brave enough to put ur views forth. I hope u dont let these people discourage u. They r not worth it.

Very nicely said @Vinita.Smile I fully agree with you.

 Each one of us here, has the right to express our view point, to encourage a healthy discussion. 

 Abhay, please continue writing. Irrespective of whether I choose to watch JA or not, I will most certainly look forward to reading your daily updates and other history related snippets that you share with us from time to time.

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