Originally posted by: .Sanskruti
So these r jst conclusions driven nd u say it right we don't know abt administration powers of anyone! ...
waise In Sabha Parva during their digvijay when Bhim takes over champa its said that he marched ahead defeating Karna so can I say that Karna as there for his territory when it needed him?😊
and there is no mention of Karna 'having complete fun' at HP he is mentioned in strategies and planning bt he does go missing in some cases...also I will add ki if staying 24*7 in ur own kingdom and looking after it makes u think its ur pocket-money that u can gamble away it was better Karna wasn't there😛
and about Karna and Arjuna its the way you look at it see if u want to stand first in the class u won't really pick up an average student nd compete him, bt it would put u in direct competition with with the one who comes first! It would have been stupid if Karna would have challenged other Ps or even the Kurus to prove him as the archer... the rivalry betn them gets intensified after DH I don't really find it such serious till then though they bth throw verbal assaults at each other.. also both reciprocated their rivalry equally look If Karna asked Brahamastra for Killing Arjuna, Arjuna too asked for Pashupata astra citing a reason to kill Karna! and I don't personally think that Karna or Arjuna 24*7 thought only of killing each other they both had their other job to do as well... nd yeah I agree at the point that even b4 the two actually met or b4 their first encounter in MB its written that Karnas rivalry was nly with Arjuna CE also says this bt here again I would mention a thing that Karna is referred as a Suta even b4 he is adopted by Radha or Adiratha don't it sound strange? seems like Vyasa believed that people already know this story😆[This actually I got to know after reading an analytical study on Karna...the sanskrit version readers can confirm or correct me😊 I miss Jamy😭]
PS...that thing in red I know it makes no sense😆 bringing other characters in middle to justify my character or put arops on other character is not my favrt Cadbury silk its cadbury fruit nd nuts which I dnt like though it might seem to be tasty for others nd I really dnt have problems with what others eat..😳 nd thats the thing I edited to add spice😈 nd I know I sound terribly foolish there in that red crap🤣🤣
PPS. Believe me I dnt hate any Ps
I cant see colours for a minor problem in my PC so I don't know which part u marked in red...
Firstly can you prove your point where you said Arjuna wanted Pashupatastra to kill Karna...I am not saying you are wrong but I want citations to gain knowledge as I was unaware of this fact...😊
By the way apart from that PAshupatastra incident is afrer VH and Exile. In fact, after a lot of things. Karna's Brahmastra incident was in GURUKUL by the way.
Now coming back to point about Karna being a good/bad king. I would like to say that if my facts cannot prove Karna a bad king, then yours cannot prove the counter either... Actually this is not even important as if it would be there would be heavy hints and citations in the epic to suggest for either of the options..Good or bad king. But seems like we botha re only basing our opinion/conclusion on assumption from reading the text.
Addition what I was trying to say is that Karna I feel wasn't a good king as Maybe I have overlooked the citaitons you said. And also, he wasn't a part of which which of Dury's crimes against Ps? Again, I just want to know what I don't already know... so if you could help me by saying which incidents you meant..
as through out the epic I have seen Karna with Dury be it in good or bad situations.. so its hard to believe Karna was in his kingdom. And only protecting your kingdom is not enough by the way.. 😊
Now finally coming to the gambling part. Not every emperor who stayed in their kingdom and administered it well gambled it away. Yudhishthir was the only one and why did u pull this in? There are many many many mor ekings in epic who did not gamble their empire.
Jst coz Yudhi did its better Karna doesn't stay in Anga? Nobody was telling him to be like Yudhi or any gambler for that matter. I was just saying he is not a good king.
I think you are being delusional with Yudhi here too by the way..but not getting into that. lets keep the debate to the point.
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