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Posted: 09 May 2015 at 8:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by touch_of_pink

Originally posted by ani_gr

I know Nikki... But Gopi has this thing of gratitude for UrShi.. we all know that.. I agree what you are saying abt Radha turning evil... This I think is also because Gopi came back strong after the 8 year leap and  at that time Radha was ready to marry Ahem and she had also created lot of troubles for her daughters.. May thats the reason she was tougher with Radha...                         

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Yes Gayatri, definitely. I completely agree.

I'm only talking about the beginning though. Radha meeting Umang and him convincing her to marry him had a lot to do with her becoming isolated by the family after Jigar and Rashi were at the brink of divorce. At that time Radha was an uneducated, vulnerable, naive, immature, stupid, foolish young girl who had no friends, no exposure to the real world and who had spent her whole life taking take care of her unstable mother. Her causing problems in Rashi-Jigar's marriage was undoubtedly wrong. But what Rashi did to her was also wrong. Now at that point Radha not only needed to be taught how that is not how you treat people, but she also needed support so that she could gain some maturity and make a good life  for herself. I firmly believe that Gopi had the means to turn around the life Radha's life at that point of time.

But what did Gopi do? She isolated the Radha. What did Kokila do? She made sure Gopi stayed away from Radha. What did everyone else do? Ignore that Radha and make her feel worthless.

So when Umang turned up and made Radha feel like she meant something to him (which of course he didn't mean at all), she latched on to him for dear life. Why? Because no one else gave her any attention. This man did. It didn't take much for him to convince her to marry him. 

Yes, that was Radha's foolishness. But I already mentioned she was foolish. LOL  

Then we had the whole bring Radha-Umang-Tripti into Modi Bhavan. What good that was supposed to do, I have no idea.

Then Umang died and we know what happened next...

I'm not justifying all the crimes Radha did after Umang's death at all. I'm just trying to point out how little things can make such a huge difference in people's lives. Gopi offering a little support to Radha when she did her first misdeed of causing problems in Rashi-Jigar marriage could have turn Radha's life around.

Nikki u are right ..but I guess there were more of story at the beginning  which part u didn't mention I will like to add
While Radha came at modi house she developed a feeling towards Ahem ,and started feeling jealous for Gopi ..and Rashi took that chance and started to poison her ears ..she made Radha feel that Gopi is not good ..
Whenever Gopi wanted to get close to Radha ,Radha used to say her an earful and tried to get close with Rashi ..

Remember some tracks where Rashi gave her old saree and how Gopi understood Rashi is misusing her ,she said her tons of times stay away from Rashi ...but she didn't trust Gopi ...she said lies and lies 

Even Gopi used a trick to keep her in room by TV ,music and all that so that she doesn't go to Rashi room ...even Gopi burnt her hands by hot iron ..but Radha was totally against her ,because she started to think Gopi doesn't want her to get a husband like ahem which is tween LOL..
Then came the necklace one, ahem gave that for Gopi birthday and Radha took it ...she had a lot of hatred for her sister ...Gopi kept saying don't hide anything,say truth where she went ,but she kept her rude and horrible behavior intact ..
Before that she even came at that marriage mandap as Gopi also LOL pulled Ahem hair LOL once 
.she never listened to Gopi while Gopi said her to stay away from Rashi ..then she had to face the consequences ..then she went away breaking Rashi Jigar marriage ...  And then whatever u said next Gopi's  love for Rashi (but wasn't that worthy if we see now who could sacrifice her life for Gopi ) ..

What I feel the moment Radha entered in mm, had a inner jealousy and hatred for Gopi from the beginning because whatever Gopi got she was not able to get ...A husband like ahem mostly ...and till the last scene when she was hitting Gopi with a stone at omkareshwar ,she  said she could get Ahem if Gopi have never come back...so see from first to last there is a lust in her mind ..that is Ahem ...Radha is mostly kind of a marital love seek teenager turned to psycho  killer .( ahem - umang - ahem ) ..they have showed many times I don't know if u have seen she was too keen to consummate her marriage with umang ( there was a nighty fiasco too )LOL...she was greedy to get ahem ( she started giving tiffin, then made pagdi, giving horrible weird look to ahem ) then umang ( actually a good alliance was seen for her by modis but she ran away and they needed to apologize to that groom family ) then ahem again ...so yes she had a hidden lust or desire for a man of her choice and a psychological disorder probably from childhood, but it came in light when she realized what all Gopi have got, she can have anyway by hook or crook  ...that's why till last date her only enemy was Gopi ...she wanted to finish Gopi as long she lives ...because she cant see her happy n enjoying ...it's not about umang all the way ...umang was just for some time ,actually it's her unfulfilled desire ...

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Posted: 09 May 2015 at 8:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by touch_of_pink

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Originally posted by ANJ4

it was urmi and rashi fault ...for playing trick on radha.


Yes, it is UrShi's fault but they did not tell Radha to marry Umang. Yes they played pranks with Radha but it happens in everybody's house.

That does not mean that Radha should go haiver. She should have told about this to the Modis. Urmila and Rashi has been consistently getting away with all the kalakaris.

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I disagree here Kavita.  Rashi treated Radha as if she was her personal slave and then tricked her into believing Ahem had a twin brother who was in love with her. These are not pranks that happen in everybody's house.

If Radha got her own back from Rashi at that time, then I say more power to her because what Radha did to Rashi was no different to what Rashi had done to Gopi countless times. 

Shame on Gopi for only reprimanding Radha for her actions but yet again letting Rashi off for her actions. I still say that if Gopi had reprimanded both Radha and Rashi at that time, Radha would not have been left so isolated to begin with and then would not have found solace in Umang's company.

But I agree that no one forced Radha to marry Umang, However, it is also true that no one forced Kokila and Gopi to invite Radha, Umang and Tripti to live in Modi Bhavan. 

Right now the only people I feel sorry for are Rashi Jr, and Pappu. The others are not worthy of my sympathy.


Rashi treated Radha as a slave. Gopi had told Rashi not to take advantage of Radha and exploit her. But she didn't listen. She kept doing it. She also told Radha, not to go to Rashi again and again but she too didn't listen.

When Rashi gave her sarees to Radha, she happily took it, not knowing that it was old or has gone out of fashion.

Gopi saw them and immediately found that Rashi gave her old sarees. She also warned Radha to stay away from Rashi but she kept going to her only because Rashi was talking to her sweetly.

She tried to engage Radha in other things like watching TV or listening to music but that didn't work.

Madhu knew Urmila's & Rashi's intentions & she wanted both her daughters to be a support to one another. But that didn't happen.

What Rashi did to Radha was unknown to all but what Radha did was something more serious than what Rashi did to her.

If she tries to tell this to Gopi or others after creating a misunderstanding between Jigar and Rashi, obviously nobody will listen.

If she was wise enough, she would have quietly checked with the Modis whether Swayam really exists or not.

What Rashi did was not right. However, 2 wrongs does not make one right. Instead of doing such a thing had she should have brought Rashi & Urmi's trick to light. That would have been appreciated by the Modis & the viewers as well. Also she should have told that Rashi told her not to tell anybody.



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Posted: 10 May 2015 at 12:57am | IP Logged
@Anasuya & Kavita

Let's just agree to disagree.Smile

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Posted: 10 May 2015 at 1:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by touch_of_pink

@Anasuya & Kavita

Let's just agree to disagree.Smile


Nikki, in what way did we contradict with you?


Edited by sharoon3210 - 10 May 2015 at 1:52am

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Posted: 10 May 2015 at 6:41am | IP Logged
sns has always been about urmi's greed for money..
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koki's greed for name, fame & power...

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Posted: 10 May 2015 at 7:38am | IP Logged
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@Anasuya & Kavita

Let's just agree to disagree.Smile


Nikki, in what way did we contradict with you?

Um...yeah I dunno. Okay ignore that, I wrote it first thing in the morning. I lose my mind debating about Radha. LOL

I just think Gopi could have done more to support Radha before Umang came into her life. As soon as Radha came into their lives, they were only teaching her how to be a good housewife. When she wanted to marry Umang they thought the solution was to force her into marriage with a suitable boy that they found within the space of one or two days. Doesn't matter how great this boy was, forcing her to get married was not the way to go.

Her obsession with Ahem was disturbing. But instead of embedding the thought in her mind that her only vocation in life was to get married, I wish they would have taught her some self-worth, maybe enroll her to learn some skill so she could support herself and maybe even her parents. If she wouldn't stop following Rashi, send her back to her parents. There was no compulsion to keep her at Modi Bhavan. As we know, it did her absolutely no good. 

I'm basing all these things on what her character was like when she entered the show. The way the character started, deteriorated and ended is one of the most disturbing things about the show. I wish her character was never introduced. In fact Gopi's family should never have come back. Long-term it did no good for the show.

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Posted: 10 May 2015 at 12:09pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by touch_of_pink

Originally posted by sharoon3210

Originally posted by touch_of_pink

@Anasuya & Kavita

Let's just agree to disagree.Smile


Nikki, in what way did we contradict with you?

Um...yeah I dunno. Okay ignore that, I wrote it first thing in the morning. I lose my mind debating about Radha. LOL

I just think Gopi could have done more to support Radha before Umang came into her life. As soon as Radha came into their lives, they were only teaching her how to be a good housewife. When she wanted to marry Umang they thought the solution was to force her into marriage with a suitable boy that they found within the space of one or two days. Doesn't matter how great this boy was, forcing her to get married was not the way to go.

Her obsession with Ahem was disturbing. But instead of embedding the thought in her mind that her only vocation in life was to get married, I wish they would have taught her some self-worth, maybe enroll her to learn some skill so she could support herself and maybe even her parents. If she wouldn't stop following Rashi, send her back to her parents. There was no compulsion to keep her at Modi Bhavan. As we know, it did her absolutely no good. 

I'm basing all these things on what her character was like when she entered the show. The way the character started, deteriorated and ended is one of the most disturbing things about the show. I wish her character was never introduced. In fact Gopi's family should never have come back. Long-term it did no good for the show.


Well, it is not your fault about losing your mind debating about Radha. More or less, everyone has the same point about Radha. Whatever, I had posted previously in reply to Anjs4. (Don't know the name). It was the same as Gayathri added to your points.

Even my blood boils when we discuss about Radha. I would like to add one more point to Gayathri's. Before Umang came to MB to get the proposal to marry Radha, the Modis had found one guy for Radha. However, Radha had made her tooth black with a sketch pen before having a word with him.

When Radha and the boy were sent to the terrace to exchange words, Radha lied to the guy saying that her tooth is not good & she keeps getting dauras.

When the guys parents gave the negative feedback, Radha was confronted. Even before that Gopi saw her with Umang from the top. After the guy went, she found the sketch pen in the dressing room & understood that Radha did it deliberately.

Forcing a person into marriage with someone is absolutely wrong & that is the mistake that most of the Indian families make.

Radha adamantly married Umang but what did she get? Umang was already married to Tripti & they acted like devar & bhabhi. Radha was getting carried away by Umang's & Tripti's talks. She always chose to trust wrong persons.

Before Umang, she trusted Rashi. She was never close to Gopi. As Gayathri said, she was jealous of Gopi that she got a partner like Ahem. She too wanted the person like that.

When Rashi told that Ahem has a twin brother named Swayam and made stories about him, Radha was happy. She went to Rashi again and again.

When she found that Swayam does not exist, she learnt it in a hard way about how Rashi was. Gopi asked Radha to be open but Radha lied to her.

Though Rashi tricked her, she helped Gopi and Kokila to get the evidence against Umang and Tripti to show it to Radha. Although, Tripti's video recording was shown, Radha still chose to believe her.

Any normal person would believe after they get the evidence. In everyone else's viewpoint, Radha is stupid, immature etc  But according to me, she used her brains in the wrong directions.Smile

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