Jagya's equations with - Page 3

Posted: 8 years ago
Originally posted by aparnauma


Intentions also don't seem to matter. 

Anandi should be running Shiv Niketan and taking care of kid on her own and take Dsa's help if necessary. That's how Anandi wants to live She doesn't want how she brings up her child to be related to how other lady deals with her own kids' problems.

Jagya also should be busy helping his wife run the hospital instead of giving unsolicited help to Anandi and remove himself from the self appointed position of an advisor to Anandi.

He should also stop feeling that he should provide the necessary father figure in Shivam's life.He has a mother who is capable of being both mother and father to her son.


@ blue Yes , she should, but unfortunately we do not see that.. We do not see her bonding  with her  own  child but we see Dadisa reading  the story to Shivam, we see  Ganga  makes  snacks  to children, welcomes them from school , what else  we see... oh wait... we see Shivam  asks  ice cream from Jagya , so that must be something  she actually wants because that's exactly what we see

@ green That's also something we could see in the serial. Just in case if someone  missed those episodes or doesn't watch carefully or simply doesn't want to see , can read some member's posts which wonderfully remind  of these  scene seen in the serial

@ red So what Jagya should do? To ignore a child who lives in his home, refuse to buy him an ice   cream?  To be rude to him ? Not paying attention to him ? BTW since when the chatting with a kid at the breakfast's table or buying an ice cream is providing  a father figure?


Edited by Stephi - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
Its weird  how it is said 

He should also stop feeling that he should provide the necessary father figure in Shivam's life.He has a mother who is capable of being both mother and father to her son.

My answer 

Shivam was born after Shivs death and Jagya Ganga Dadisaa went to see the babies . Jagya blessed the babies . He assured Anandi of his support like any gentleman kindhearted noble hearted friend will He assured not only Anandi but Shekhars too to consider him like a son if ever they needed anything they can call him It is  his respect for shiv that he assured his family  and his wife of his support if they ever needed his help they can approach him without any hesitation but he never interfered in their lives He assured them of his support '' if they need him they can contact him '' 

Later he did not bring Anandi and Shivam in Jaitsar It was Dadisaa and i wonder what people expect Jagya to do here ?A fatherless kid in front of him who daily sees a loving father loving his children , bringing stuff for them , playing with them and shivam sees him daily  Can any kind hearted person ignore shivam here ? No  so Jagya started to be same to  shivam as well but this is  what is said to him he is trying to be a fatherly figure in  shivam's life is wrong  He never tried Shivam himself started seeing him as fatherly figure because Jagya is very kind and loving person 

People expect Jagya to be rude to  shivam  when  he asks ice cream  from him , people expect Jagya to ignore shivam standing with Abhi and hug Abhi  only or when shivam tells him about his school activities Jagya should turn his face away from him ? Jagya cannot be inhuman and  rude 

but if shivam's mother failed to become mother and father for her child If her son ignores her and demand ice cream from Jagya while abhi can go and demand ice cream from mother since Bapusaa is not at home People cannot blame Jagya for such situation The so called capable mother who can become mother and father for her child failed to become a good parent here 
Edited by jdfan - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
OMG 

@when Jagya is not helping his wife in hospital 😲

So many scenes people have already mentioned where he is helping her 

@ when he  is giving unsolicited help to Anandi and has become the self appointed position of an advisor to Anandi.


I have never seen when he is interfering in Anandi's work in shiv niketan Has made himself self appointed advisor to Anandi🤪

In that scene he only offered his help like any gentleman will and Anandi was discussing it with everyone thats why he said but he has not made himself self appointed advisor to Anandi he never interferes in her work there , never lectures her around Anandi and Dadisaa herself discuss with him 

Stopping child marriage in his area is more his duty than Anandi's He is MLA not Anandi He is doing his duty not interfering in Anandi's work

@and when he tried to be fatherly figure in shivam's life  What people expect Jagya to do Ignore shivam who lives under  same roof with him and sees him daily loving his children ? Jagya has always been a kind hearted person and he loves children a lot and children from his childhood have always loved him more than anyone so he started to be affectionate to shivam as well and shivam started seeing him as fatherly figure It does not mean he is trying to be fatherly figure to shivam He is only taking care of shivam like his own children Put yourself in his shoes Can you ignore shivam No ? why expecting from him ?


Posted: 8 years ago
I have never seen when Jagya has made himself self appointed advisor to Anandi and he is giving unsolicited help to Anandi.? Jagya has never been interfering in Anandi and Dadisaa's work in Shiv Niketan In that particular scene it was Anandi telling him and Dadisaa about what is needed in shiv niketan and Jagya offered his help to her if she needs she can ask from him How that makes him self appointed advisor to Anandi or giving her unsolicited help?
I don't understand how it is said Jagya has self taken responsibility of shiv niketan and with Anandi moving out of BH he should remove himself from that? Anandi stays in BH or out of BH but shiv niketan is Jagya's responsibility  because Jagya is MLA of Jaitsar. Being MLA of Jaitsar all Jaitsar district is his responsibility Each house , each school , each college , each university , each NGO , markets of Jaitsar , police department , agriculture department etc these are his responsibilities These responsibilities he has not self taken but people have given him the day they gave him vote and chose them as their MLA The day he took oath of MLA all Jaitsar became his responsibility and  i believe Shiv niketan is in Jaitsar not outside it so how it is not his responsibility ? It is his responsibility but of course he is not some God he can keep in check of everything on his own His doors are open for every person of Jaitsar whoever need his help , whoever have any problem , any issue can approach him directly and same he tells Anandi if she needs his  help in any matter regarding her NGO can approach him He is not interfering in Anandi's work but only completing his responsibility and Jagya cannot release himself from responsibility of shiv niketan no matter Anandi's stays whereever as Shiv Niketan is in Jaitsar and all Jaitsar is his responsibility 

Stopping a social evil in his area is his responsibility and Jagya is doing that by using his power and position in right direction to eradicate child marriage social evil from Jaitsar so he is not interfering in Anandi's work He is only doing his duty 

when is Jagya not doing his duties as a doctor , not running his hospital not helping his wife in that ? Senior doctors are always multi tasking Mostly .They work in hospital too , they teach in medical colleges too , they have their own personal clinics too  jagya is also mult tasking but he runs a hospital as well as he is MLA of Jaitsar 

and there are plenty of scenes where he is being seen in hospital , helping Ganga too , doing his duties as a doctor and MD of hospital  so how  question can be raised on him for this ?

There is a  scene where he is busy in work and forgets to wish Ganga good luck before she goes to perform the operation and Ganga misunderstood she thought he is angry with her thats why  she was acting naive and getting upset over that he did not wish her  but wasn't Jagya shown busy in hospital work ?

There is a scene where Ganga is sewing a shirt but he give her the file and asks her study the case The operation she is going to perform tomorrow is more important than what she is doing now she should concentrate on that operation and prepare for it 

In that deal matter it was ganga's mistake not consulting him and she realized that One cannot count that  his mistake he is not helping her in hospital The fact he cannot keep in check of each and everything in hospital on his own  No one can do that  Ganga should have informed him but she made an assumption he will be busy with other work so i should do it on my own but later she realized her mistake 

There is a scene where he is telling Ganga about that purpose of conference that they had about swine flue epidemic It was he who guided his staff on that and arranged that conference and Ganga was assuring him they will do exactly how he instructed them 

There is a scene where he goes and performs operation in Ganga's place because she has been very tired from all day's work and sleeping 

so i don't understand how this is  stressed for him  he should be doing his duties as a doctor ,running his hospital  , helping his wife in that when he is already doing that ? 

When Jagya is trying to become a fatherly figure in shivam's life ? If he would making himself as father of shivam then he would be making decisions about him  too but he clearly says i have no right for that but yes Anandi do considers herself more important than Mannu's parents thats why she made promise with Ratan Singh without asking Mannu's parents?

and why Jagya should not have been kind , loving and affectionate to Shivam ? Shivam is a fatherless kid who has been living under same roof with him for past 11 years  How he can ignore shivam? or Jagya is criticized for  that he should  have not paid attention on shivam , should not have been kind and loving to shivam ? which person with a kind heart can do that he ignores this kid and loves his children daily in front of him and make shivam feel his loss of father even more?  Jagya cannot be this rude and inhuman thats why he started giving his love to shivam too and shivam seeing his love for him started seeing him as a fatherly figure 

I think Jagya should be praised for it He has been so nice to shivam and loving him as equal to his own kids but still he never crossed his line of his rights on shivam  in that Even though he treats shivam like his own children but he does not think he has any right on shivam to make any sort of decisions for him Thats solely Anandi' s right but i cannot understand why people expect Jagya to ignore shivam because they are making him he is trying to become fatherly figure if he is loving to shivam  If he would have ignored shivam then same people would be bashing him how selfish , mean and heartless fellow right?

Edited by mahi12 - 8 years ago
Posted: 8 years ago
Jagya knows shivam has a very over  capable mother and when he is even trying to become a father for shivam ?Shivam himself started seeing him a father  seeing his love and care for him Jagya never tried to take his father's place but people expect Jagya to be so heartless that he should have ignored this fatherless kid in front of him and who stays under same roof with him , and daily sees him loving his own children?
Jagya is not this heartless he is a very kind hearted person Who is not inhuman but have humanity in him and he is a indeed  ⭐️he has been so nice to shivam that shivam loves and  respects him like a father 😊


Posted: 8 years ago
It was Jagya who raised the issue of those things about Shiv Niketan and brought that into discussion 
Anandi and Dsa then told him about what was happening there and he chose that to score a point with his ongoing fight with his wife.He told them to check with him before taking a decision about SN and used this conversation to educate his wife about the great value about second opinion.

Anandi just nodded her head and kept quiet.

It was very clear that he was giving unsolicited help in running SN


Posted: 8 years ago
Hello 
Jagya is  helping his wife running the hospital  There have been so many scenes where he is helping her , he is seen in hospital  even guiding her so seriously stop misleading the serial here People have given enough scenes examples for which some people  have no answer because he has been helping her Its a fact He is doing his duties as MD of hospital and as a doctor as well 

and where he has made himself self appointed advisor to Anandi ? He never interfered in her matters in Shiv Niketan In that scene she was discussing it openly He only offered his help like he offers to all Jaitsar people if you need my help can approach me and through this he was trying to show mirror to Ganga as well  taking second opinion is not a bad idea and Ganga got the point too she never made it he is appreciating Anandi over her but she got the point she was wrong in not consulting him Later i believe she apologized too It was all her mistake for not consulting him even for once  Jagya has never been interfering in Anandi Dadisaas work in shiv niketan They ask his help if they need anywhere 

and what people expect him to do in shivam's case ? Boycott him? That kid is staying in his house with him  Some People expect him to be inhuman and ignore him because since he is being kind , nice and loving to Shivam and people are calling him he trying to his father He should stop that because he has such a capable mother who can be shivam's mother and father and i ask from some people since when did being kind and nice , loving to some kid in your house becomes you trying to be his father ?Its that fatherless  kid who started seeing him a fatherly figure  because he has not seen his own father He has not got his father's love ever He only got that love from Jagya only so its natural for him to start seeing Jagya as fatherly figure 

but seriously i don't know what people expect from Jagya? Shivam for part 11 years have been living with him under same roof How it is possible for him to love his children and ignore this kid Don't bring anything for him  ? It will hurt shivam and he will feel his loss of father even more  Jagya is not this heart less 

Yes he said shivam is his responsibility so whats wrong in it? because shivam is staying in his house so taking care of him is his responsibility too but Jagya is not making any decisions about shivam because he does not think he has any right for that Thats only his mother's right but Jagya is only being affectionate to shivam Loving to him Is that wrong? That people expect him to stop that ?

and Jagya how he is with shivam he would be same with Kusum's kid shakti too Had she stayed in same house with him I dont know what happened to kusum and her son Cvs forgot to tell us their complete story but Jagya would be same to shakti He assured kusum he will try his best to save her from any punishment when she stabbed LPS and also promised he will take care of shakti Shakti is responsibility 

Jagya would be same with sugna's kids too Had widowed sugna come to stay with them in same house 

Jagya was same with Nandu and Bharavi too 

Jagya is same with shivam and people are criticizing him for that?amazing 


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