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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Bhavi

Originally posted by Mirabell

Originally posted by -Bhavi

Again we are at logger heads hereLOL You are talking about the incident whereas I am talking about the effect of the incident.
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So, to get out of our logger heads.. let me try again:

If by effect you mean miscarriage - this is what I understood from your comment
  1. You were talking about the effects of the incident and its potential causes
    1. incident - miscarriage
    2. (potential) causes - ultrasound, recording of heart beat
  2. You tried to connect the effect to the cause by speculating about how old[er] women and our culture has restrictions on what pregnant women can and cannot do. For example - you had only two ultra sounds.. and folks dont buy things for the baby until after the baby is born etc.,
  3. I contested that. Bas. 
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No way ... This is the blind faith you are talking aboutShocked 
Incident - is Miscarriage
Effect of incident is: the way the couple is dealing it. 

Who am I to even judge the potential cause. That is up to the professionals and not the folk tale.Approve



Ha ha ha.. Havent had this much fun discussing.. :) 

Glad you made that clear, because it doesn't read that way for me. And am really glad we agree that it is blind faith. When you brought these references to blind faith... I felt compelled to counter. :)

It doesn't make a whit of a difference whether we have ultrasound or not. It doesn't make a whit of a difference if someone is recording the doppler or not.. when the fetus is not viable, miscarriages take place. It is nature's way.. very cruel to those that go through it. 

I had two miscarriages... two heartbreaks.. I speak from MY experience I guess. I dealt with it not unlike Khushi. So...




Edited by Mirabell - 27 May 2015 at 1:20pm

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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:27pm | IP Logged
Very interesting discussion...

So, here is my opinion having gone through this "incident" myself, twice...


Based on personal experience, room or no room, listening to the heartbeat off of Arnav's phone or seeing the baby during doctor visits in an ultrasound, would not have resulted this into a different story.


This is a couple who love children immensely (think I have shown that in this story), desperately wanting their own, and when it finally happened a couple of years later, along with the four months with their baby, not a fetus, there is that unconditional love and bond that one does not forgot whether there are reminders or not. They were emotionally connected as soon as she learned she was pregnant. Yes it took them two years to get here, but this is a fact, everyone is different, every situation is different... this is only one scenario.


Think about it from the standpoint where millions of mothers and fathers go through this, its heart wrenching. The pain is no less whatever the circumstance is. Professional or personal advice given by others, in my eyes can not compare to what that couple feels. No one can relate to the couple but themselves, as individuals.






Edited by Chokri_ASR - 27 May 2015 at 1:27pm

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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:37pm | IP Logged
No wonder Mira i was fighting the lost battle here. As Jigs said only those who have undergone this heart wrenching pain can understand it. 

All other side stander can only speculate and that is exactly what i didEmbarrassed Speculate about what could have been different in dealing with the pain. 

Reading all the personal stories here one can only thank God for the small mercies of life.

And no it was not fun to discuss this at all.


Edited by -Bhavi - 27 May 2015 at 1:41pm

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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:52pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Bhavi

No wonder Mira i was fighting the lost battle here. As Jigs said only those who have undergone this heart wrenching pain can understand it. 

All other side stander can only speculate and that is exactly what i didEmbarrassed Speculate about what could have been different in dealing with the pain. 

Reading all the personal stories here one can only thank God for the small mercies of life.

And no it was not fun to discuss this at all.


It is not be fun to discuss this Bhavi, but so glad to see that this discussion is taking place and emotions and opinions and facts are laid bare for all...


As Jigs says in her previous post "everyone is different, every situation is different... this is only one scenario". In essence what I believe she is trying to get at, is to show for people like Khushi, that there are other options available to them other than withdrawing into themselves... If this narration could make a difference to one such Khushi then Jigs would have achieved what every author dreams of achieving... and your discussions is helping to make that clear in more ways than one...



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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 1:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Bhavi

No wonder Mira i was fighting the lost battle here. As Jigs said only those who have undergone this heart wrenching pain can understand it. 

All other side stander can only speculate and that is exactly what i didEmbarrassed Speculate about what could have been different in dealing with the pain. 

Reading all the personal stories here one can only thank God for the small mercies of life.

And no it was not fun to discuss this at all.

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Thank you! 

I guess this was Jig's way of evoking some empathy in those of us that didn't go through this. And I think she has done a spectacular job of it.

One doesn't have to 'walk in another's shoe' necessarily to feel the pinch. Just the idea of someone being pinched suffices for a few perhaps.

Yes, some of us are chosen for this painful journey. But lessons are universal I guess.

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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 2:00pm | IP Logged
I think it would give utmost respect to all parents who never had a chance to know their children and to the author writing this story...to lay this conversation to rest...    

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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 2:04pm | IP Logged
Its time for the 


wishing the happy times aheadBig smile


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Posted: 27 May 2015 at 2:08pm | IP Logged
ahh!!
what can i say about this part Jigs..
i m speechless truly..
i'll not go in deep or should i say that what i feel right now, i cant put it in words, i'll just say that i m feeling weak emotionally.. & few things..
first of all
'Avocado'
now on whenever i see & heard this word, it definetly going to reminds me of this, their 'Pari'..
the memory from the past was so beautiful & the time he was treating her & taking care of her just like she was a baby,& the time he was talking to their baby, i was crying coz we were aware about the result of their this beautiful journey..
& the hospital scene, i m skipping to say anything about that & her deliverying the baby, they were the very hard part for me..
& last their confession, specially Khushi who let her guilt, grief, pain, loss, fear have told him..
& the moment they share about 'if' their Pari was alive, how she would look, talk an all was truly a parents wish ( i wanted to write something here but i forget it as i m at loss of words currently)..
i just hope & wish at least for once they concived baby, not just coz after i read this part but for whom who was so longing, love & crave for this..
& hope after this confrontation Khushi gives another chance to their happiness..
waiting for nxt..
& forgot to mention the way Arnav was holding the doll & crying bitterly remembering her baby that scene was very impact full & very emotional..
you know through out this chp i was crying with them to their this beautiful loss..
waiting for nxt..

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