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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 11:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mishtidoi

Originally posted by vinitaj27

Originally posted by mishtidoi

Didn't see the episode.
Why was Jodha quite, tight lipped?

Anyway, going by your write up, am not angry with HB or GB or SB
If a person doesn't keep own dignity and respect, others will treat you as doormat or worse Angry


I agree mishti that jodha should have spoken up but she doesnt want to create trouble between son n mother n i think she believes that sooner or later she will make jalal cool down. She never expected him to divorce her. As for being a doormat i guess the situation reminds me of those mothers who do hungerstrike n end up in hospitals to stop their children from marrying against their will. I had a friend who was in love with a christian guy n her mom did this . She finally had to agree to not see the guy again coz she couldnt bear to be the cause of her mothers death.. sad but true..

I understand where you and many others are coming from..

But, Jalal was aware of the pressures under which he left Jodha before war, he clearly had stated that even she's at war...so it was not as if he would have got some dhakka, hearing about HB and all others...its high time when Jalal doesn't always have to pester Jodha to talk to him, instead of him having to "samajhane ka prayas" each and every time.

Just think, how red faced Jalal must have been, here he's returning with victory of his principles, many martyred for his belief in the battle field and here  his soul is on the verge of tossing his beliefs and principles.

Secondly, right from the time, this issue cropped up, Jalal had  made it clear to Jodha in no uncertain terms, that FAITH was the very foundation of their relationship, their different religions, yet one Faith in Almighty was like their two bodies and one soul...Jodha clearly didn't grasp this, neither did she understand the whole issue, as is clear from her being on guilt trip right from the start.

She also made a mockery of religion here, "I will come into your fold, i will not"...this yoyo thing is insulting both to her Kanha and Allah.

That Jodha, who last time told everyone loudly that her relationship to her husband was the base of her relation with others, went on to destroy the very base.

She thought, she would manaofy Jalal, looking at the number years of togetherness, partners become more perceptive of major and minor issues between them...here also I don't find any such thing about her, she took it as a lil hubby-wifey thing.
When she could not handle HB, how had she expected to handle Jalal, after shaking the very foundation of their relationship?

Jodha should clearly do away with MEH title, its not only about helping the needy, its also about taking a tough call when no one is with you and you are crumbling, but ready to make any sacrifice for the greater good. There were many ways to counter HB's emotional threat, for once like, "Aram banu too could have gone on hunger strike" ...but to think of such counter measures one has to have faith in oneself and own principles (in Jalal's principles too) and then has to put both heart and mind for saving your beliefs, but Jodha herself thought that she was at fault from the start, then what can she explain others. This track showed her nil leadership quality.Angry
How I wished to see smart DIL, forget MEHCry
I for one clearly will not demean MEH, by saying, "poor she, tortured by monster in law". 

If Jalal every time puts Jodha in spot when being tedha, same goes with Jodha too, she also takes Jalal for granted every time while being self-sacrificing...truly made for each otherWinkLOL

P.S. I know there are many die hard Jodha lovers here, but she's also a human and can be at fault...we can for all curse the CVs, but then that should be and is the the case for JA as a whole too...so either we curse the CVs or criticize the characters.
I fully agree with you charudiClap

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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 11:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by -aady-

Hey all! :)
Let me say this episode was more on the 'lets simply drag this MU' side, and less on the 'lets show Akdha as a mature couple' side.

It started off well, but played out to be quite a mixed up episode.

Justified Anger??
I felt that Jalal's anger was justified, because the whole point of the war he fought was to ensure that every citizen of his empire could choose their religion freely, but Jodha herself under pressure decided to change. Whether Jodha is right is not the question, but is Jalal's anger Justified... I feel it is. After promises to her husband and herself she was not only going against Jalal but her own heart by accepting Islam, which would be the biggest insult to the religion. This anger is just a reflection of Jalal's disappointment in Jodha, because he left for war knowing that Jodha would be propagating the same thought as his back home, but here she had succumbed to pressure. Not only succumber to pressure but was on the verge of losing her very identity.

Is Jodha Wrong?
Wrong would be harsh, but to say that she dealt with the situation in the incorrect manner can be right. Instead of giving into the demands, I would have wanted Jodha to stand upto HB, and tell her why changing her religion would go against the very concept her son Jalal was fighting for. Situations were against Jodha, but she could have atleast dealt with it differently. If not the Jalal card she could have atleast told HB, that her accepting Islam would be an insult to the religion, because she could never give her heart to it. Or she could have just told HB that the war must be over by now.

HB, GB turned on Mute:
Look's like HB and GB have very conveniently turned on their Mute buttons, and have nothing to say at all about Jodha's conversion. If Jalal had not returned and Jodha had converted, HB would be smiling from ear to ear, but now that Jalal is back safe and sound Hamida has totally forgotten that it was her food strike and GB's taunts that forced Jodha into taking such a decision in the first place. All that the 2 Royal ladies could do is sit and looke shocked, when they very much knew that Jodha would never have taken this step if not for them guilt tripping her. And what is this sudden overprotection for Jalal and the soldiers, it's not like this is the first war Jalal has been to.

Distance...
Today's Akdha scene was atleast a little better off in terms of MU scenes because, usually their MU scenes consist of Jalal yelling at the top of his voice and Jodha just moping. So it was atleast okay to see how Jalal asked Jodha to leave before he loses his cool and utters something that he never meant. Right now Jalal needs some time to sort out his thoughts, maybe look athe situation from Jodha's point of view and to asesss the happenings of Agra as a whole, hopefully to piece together that it was HB Satyagraha that led to Jodha wanting to change her religion.

Precap??
Well hopefully the precap is just to add that Masala that the CV's just love. JJ have come such a long way and now these MU's really don't seem so possible. Staying distant away for a while, having small fights is okay at this stage, but to directly decide to divorce your 'soul mate' is something that I hope the CV's do not show at this stage, after establishing such a strong bond between Jalal and Jodha. So it could be

1) Rukaiyya's crazy dream, where her ambition of getting a huge MU between JJ happens.
or
2) This is maybe a Tedha plan of Jalal's, hoping to get the truth out of HB. Maybe he gets to know about the strained relations and knows that however much HB refuses to talk to Jodha she would never want Jodha to leave FOREVER from Agra and Jalal's life.


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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 11:37pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by neesha19

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Originally posted by cuty1997

yes abhay , what the hell. no one say anything to jalal. and jodha also not saying what happens in the absence of jalal in agra.  i don't aspect this with HB and GB. both are silent. all are so many things to jodha and now what happened to all. i know here jodha's also wrong but that not means all are left on jodha like this. 
TFS Abhay.


again same reaction from me like I always say when Jo is insulted beyond extent by everyone including Jalal... time for Jo to punish everybody ... she should leave Jalal, Agra and all those selfish and insane ppl, who want her with them only for their benefits, and later r ready to discard her like some used tissue... and she should not accept their apology so easily...

coz even if Jalal is acting to make his point understand, everytime using the drama of divorce to Jo is very insulting...

if his mother and his Jaan begum r torturing Jo , then it was his duty to punish them and not to Jo... and if this is his way of loving her most, then she is better without such love...

Its Jalal's  habit I believe to punish all wrong people and mostly blame Jo for everything.. Remember Hasan and Hussains death ..he blamed Jo and our Jo accepted quietly that it was her fault and so this time also .. she will not open her mouth and take the blame all to herself ..


well said Neesha, i also not liked secene when jodha talking Moti, SS, is angery cause of her,
when HB is very ill, she said,Ammijaan kee iss halat kee liye mee jimmedar huu,

so how can its  Right,;;;;;;;;; Jodha should clear, here, Here HB mistake,or all jointely, misused her, because HB knows, if Heart is not accepting, changing relgions, factor its fully wrong, she should not go to Hunger strike, or pressurise jodha.

lets see today, Jalal should understand, if jodha took this step, behind this Big reason.but if he thinks this,;;;;;;;Maybee Heart side Gap not came, but Mind wants some clearty, so situation is this this time:

Because Jalal Right one place, If MEH cause of pressuriseness will take this decesion, others people what will do.So little angryness is its Hakk,LOLA person should sure think, why her wife not sent him Message, or is her wife No Faith on him.Jodha mind was she  can't disturb, war point, Jalal mind, ;;;;;;so both are  right on their place, But communication gap wall, has come, which will sort out, when Cv will think about this Its CV style.

jodha can use, also teda methodLOLif this time MUM can pressurise, she will again use this
, she should learn, from jalal,;;;;;;;;;but which way CV showing, Jodha character these days,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;feeling very disappointment.King or Queen should be Honest +Justful +their vision should be clear.

Rajput Queen  showing too much less confidence, which angel suits this, only CV knows?



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Hey all! :)
Let me say this episode was more on the 'lets simply drag this MU' side, and less on the 'lets show Akdha as a mature couple' side.

If only I could, I would throttle the writers for presenting a completely uncreative sloppy script in the  form  of Natakiya Roopantar.Angry . 

It started off well, but played out to be quite a mixed up episode.

Justified Anger??
I felt that Jalal's anger was justified, because the whole point of the war he fought was to ensure that every citizen of his empire could choose their religion freely, but Jodha herself under pressure decided to change. Whether Jodha is right is not the question, but is Jalal's anger Justified... I feel it is. After promises to her husband and herself she was not only going against Jalal but her own heart by accepting Islam, which would be the biggest insult to the religion. This anger is just a reflection of Jalal's disappointment in Jodha, because he left for war knowing that Jodha would be propagating the same thought as his back home, but here she had succumbed to pressure. Not only succumber to pressure but was on the verge of losing her very identity.

Yes, Jalal has all the right to be angry. Rajat played the livid yet restrained Jalal to the hilt today. Clap Him feeling let down by the love of his life is totally justified. Yet at the same time, I wish it had occurred to him that Jodha would never take an extreme measure second time around, especially after promising him, not to do so, without a valid reason.

Is Jodha Wrong?
Wrong would be harsh, but to say that she dealt with the situation in the incorrect manner can be right. Instead of giving into the demands, I would have wanted Jodha to stand upto HB, and tell her why changing her religion would go against the very concept her son Jalal was fighting for. Situations were against Jodha, but she could have atleast dealt with it differently. If not the Jalal card she could have atleast told HB, that her accepting Islam would be an insult to the religion, because she could never give her heart to it. Or she could have just told HB that the war must be over by now.

Yes, Jodha could have tried to reason out the situation and Jalal's point of view with Hamida Begum, but do you honestly think MM would have listened to her? Hamida Begum was very well aware that forcible conversion into Islam is unacceptable, yet she forced Jodha to do so and ended up having a heart attack in court when Jodha refused to give in to her demands for the second time. HB was on a singlehanded mission of emotional manipulation and  self destruction. Jodha was at a loss as a daughter-in-law, wife and MEK. She was burdened with the feeling that her condition to Jalal of allowing her to practice hinduism within the Agra Mahal was proving to be the reason for immense unhappiness within the family and Hindustan. Saddled with this wrong notion, she set out to give into HB's request. HB's ' fast unto getting my way' pushed her into reconsidering conversion.

HB, GB turned on Mute:
Look's like HB and GB have very conveniently turned on their Mute buttons, and have nothing to say at all about Jodha's conversion. If Jalal had not returned and Jodha had converted, HB would be smiling from ear to ear, but now that Jalal is back safe and sound Hamida has totally forgotten that it was her food strike and GB's taunts that forced Jodha into taking such a decision in the first place. All that the 2 Royal ladies could do is sit and looke shocked, when they very much knew that Jodha would never have taken this step if not for them guilt tripping her. And what is this sudden overprotection for Jalal and the soldiers, it's not like this is the first war Jalal has been to.

The manner in which the characters of both Gulbadan Begum and Hamida Begum have been etched out is demeaning and insulting. Upon seeing Jodha in Mughal attire, the expression that HB had was one of "oh my, now that you've attempted conversion, due to my illogical behavior and my son is aware of it, I will be shredded to pieces". I wish Salima Begum steps in and apprises Jalal of the conditions in the mahal during his absence, the stress and trauma, Jodha had to undergo, due to his mothers'  petulant behavior, the heart attack drama in 'diwaan-e-khas' and her subsequent 'bhook hartal'. I don't think we will ever see Jodha defending herself and her actions to Jalal..

Distance...
Today's Akdha scene was atleast a little better off in terms of MU scenes because, usually their MU scenes consist of Jalal yelling at the top of his voice and Jodha just moping. So it was atleast okay to see how Jalal asked Jodha to leave before he loses his cool and utters something that he never meant. Right now Jalal needs some time to sort out his thoughts, maybe look athe situation from Jodha's point of view and to asesss the happenings of Agra as a whole, hopefully to piece together that it was HB Satyagraha that led to Jodha wanting to change her religion.

Precap??
Well hopefully the precap is just to add that Masala that the CV's just love. JJ have come such a long way and now these MU's really don't seem so possible. Staying distant away for a while, having small fights is okay at this stage, but to directly decide to divorce your 'soul mate' is something that I hope the CV's do not show at this stage, after establishing such a strong bond between Jalal and Jodha. So it could be

1) Rukaiyya's crazy dream, where her ambition of getting a huge MU between JJ happens.
or
2) This is maybe a Tedha plan of Jalal's, hoping to get the truth out of HB. Maybe he gets to know about the strained relations and knows that however much HB refuses to talk to Jodha she would never want Jodha to leave FOREVER from Agra and Jalal's life.

I will opt for point nos 2. Maybe Jalal has been updated about all the dramatic happenings in the Mahal during his absence. Declaring a 'talaq' maybe his idea of getting Hamida Begum to accept her mistakes and also proving to her that when she insisted that Jodha not adhere to Jalal's hokum and the promise given to him, then Jodha does not need to remain his wife anymore. He very well knows that this step will provoke both HB and Jodha to reveal the truth themselves.

The CreativesAngry could also be showing an unreasonable Jalal declaring Talaq as a result of muddled thinking, thanks to the influence of voodoo.

Awesome analysis as usual Aadhya.Smile Today's episode highlighted the writers Creativity at its worst. What a dismal, undignified portrayal of Jodha, Hamida Begum and Gulbadan Begum. Disapprove


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What a well written post. The disappointment everyone has faced due to the abysmal characterization of the Royal ladies is very much visible. They have resorted to showing this typical 'saas-bahu' drama, the only aspect in which JA used to be different from other serials.

I can't blame Jodha entirely here, but I will blame the CV's who have made Jodha mouth such terrible dialogues. Jodha was in a tight situation, where she did not want Jalal to come back to see his mother lying dead from Starvation, so she chose to save her mother's life. I can't say that she is wrong for this, however much I would have preferred her standing up to Ammijaan and putting the facts in front of her. Because it was exactly this kind of pressure that Jalal had warned her about earlier. But now she has not done that, so I hope that at least today Jodha does not keep mum, and tells Jalal that it was either his mother's life or her keeping  her religion.

This 'Talaq' drama is very confusing, but I am hoping it's a plan to get the truth out, and not that Jalal is genuinely telling Jodha. If this is something that he means really, than i will hope that it's that Chudails magic, and it will wear off soon due to JJ love. I WILL NOT WATCH AN MU NOW.


Today is the 500th episode, maybe they can at least show us some good scene's today? A Tedha Jalal would be a treat to watch.





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Posted: 07 May 2015 at 12:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -aady-

Originally posted by Charu.S

Originally posted by -aady-

Hey all! :)
Let me say this episode was more on the 'lets simply drag this MU' side, and less on the 'lets show Akdha as a mature couple' side.

If only I could, I would throttle the writers for presenting a completely uncreative sloppy script in the  form  of Natakiya Roopantar.Angry . 

It started off well, but played out to be quite a mixed up episode.

Justified Anger??
I felt that Jalal's anger was justified, because the whole point of the war he fought was to ensure that every citizen of his empire could choose their religion freely, but Jodha herself under pressure decided to change. Whether Jodha is right is not the question, but is Jalal's anger Justified... I feel it is. After promises to her husband and herself she was not only going against Jalal but her own heart by accepting Islam, which would be the biggest insult to the religion. This anger is just a reflection of Jalal's disappointment in Jodha, because he left for war knowing that Jodha would be propagating the same thought as his back home, but here she had succumbed to pressure. Not only succumber to pressure but was on the verge of losing her very identity.

Yes, Jalal has all the right to be angry. Rajat played the livid yet restrained Jalal to the hilt today. Clap Him feeling let down by the love of his life is totally justified. Yet at the same time, I wish it had occurred to him that Jodha would never take an extreme measure second time around, especially after promising him, not to do so, without a valid reason.

Is Jodha Wrong?
Wrong would be harsh, but to say that she dealt with the situation in the incorrect manner can be right. Instead of giving into the demands, I would have wanted Jodha to stand upto HB, and tell her why changing her religion would go against the very concept her son Jalal was fighting for. Situations were against Jodha, but she could have atleast dealt with it differently. If not the Jalal card she could have atleast told HB, that her accepting Islam would be an insult to the religion, because she could never give her heart to it. Or she could have just told HB that the war must be over by now.

Yes, Jodha could have tried to reason out the situation and Jalal's point of view with Hamida Begum, but do you honestly think MM would have listened to her? Hamida Begum was very well aware that forcible conversion into Islam is unacceptable, yet she forced Jodha to do so and ended up having a heart attack in court when Jodha refused to give in to her demands for the second time. HB was on a singlehanded mission of emotional manipulation and  self destruction. Jodha was at a loss as a daughter-in-law, wife and MEK. She was burdened with the feeling that her condition to Jalal of allowing her to practice hinduism within the Agra Mahal was proving to be the reason for immense unhappiness within the family and Hindustan. Saddled with this wrong notion, she set out to give into HB's request. HB's ' fast unto getting my way' pushed her into reconsidering conversion.

HB, GB turned on Mute:
Look's like HB and GB have very conveniently turned on their Mute buttons, and have nothing to say at all about Jodha's conversion. If Jalal had not returned and Jodha had converted, HB would be smiling from ear to ear, but now that Jalal is back safe and sound Hamida has totally forgotten that it was her food strike and GB's taunts that forced Jodha into taking such a decision in the first place. All that the 2 Royal ladies could do is sit and looke shocked, when they very much knew that Jodha would never have taken this step if not for them guilt tripping her. And what is this sudden overprotection for Jalal and the soldiers, it's not like this is the first war Jalal has been to.

The manner in which the characters of both Gulbadan Begum and Hamida Begum have been etched out is demeaning and insulting. Upon seeing Jodha in Mughal attire, the expression that HB had was one of "oh my, now that you've attempted conversion, due to my illogical behavior and my son is aware of it, I will be shredded to pieces". I wish Salima Begum steps in and apprises Jalal of the conditions in the mahal during his absence, the stress and trauma, Jodha had to undergo, due to his mothers'  petulant behavior, the heart attack drama in 'diwaan-e-khas' and her subsequent 'bhook hartal'. I don't think we will ever see Jodha defending herself and her actions to Jalal..

Distance...
Today's Akdha scene was atleast a little better off in terms of MU scenes because, usually their MU scenes consist of Jalal yelling at the top of his voice and Jodha just moping. So it was atleast okay to see how Jalal asked Jodha to leave before he loses his cool and utters something that he never meant. Right now Jalal needs some time to sort out his thoughts, maybe look athe situation from Jodha's point of view and to asesss the happenings of Agra as a whole, hopefully to piece together that it was HB Satyagraha that led to Jodha wanting to change her religion.

Precap??
Well hopefully the precap is just to add that Masala that the CV's just love. JJ have come such a long way and now these MU's really don't seem so possible. Staying distant away for a while, having small fights is okay at this stage, but to directly decide to divorce your 'soul mate' is something that I hope the CV's do not show at this stage, after establishing such a strong bond between Jalal and Jodha. So it could be

1) Rukaiyya's crazy dream, where her ambition of getting a huge MU between JJ happens.
or
2) This is maybe a Tedha plan of Jalal's, hoping to get the truth out of HB. Maybe he gets to know about the strained relations and knows that however much HB refuses to talk to Jodha she would never want Jodha to leave FOREVER from Agra and Jalal's life.

I will opt for point nos 2. Maybe Jalal has been updated about all the dramatic happenings in the Mahal during his absence. Declaring a 'talaq' maybe his idea of getting Hamida Begum to accept her mistakes and also proving to her that when she insisted that Jodha not adhere to Jalal's hokum and the promise given to him, then Jodha does not need to remain his wife anymore. He very well knows that this step will provoke both HB and Jodha to reveal the truth themselves.

The CreativesAngry could also be showing an unreasonable Jalal declaring Talaq as a result of muddled thinking, thanks to the influence of voodoo.

Awesome analysis as usual Aadhya.Smile Today's episode highlighted the writers Creativity at its worst. What a dismal, undignified portrayal of Jodha, Hamida Begum and Gulbadan Begum. Disapprove


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What a well written post. The disappointment everyone has faced due to the abysmal characterization of the Royal ladies is very much visible. They have resorted to showing this typical 'saas-bahu' drama, the only aspect in which JA used to be different from other serials.

I can't blame Jodha entirely here, but I will blame the CV's who have made Jodha mouth such terrible dialogues. Jodha was in a tight situation, where she did not want Jalal to come back to see his mother lying dead from Starvation, so she chose to save her mother's life. I can't say that she is wrong for this, however much I would have preferred her standing upto Ammijaan and putting the facts in front of her. But now she has not done that earlier, so I hope that at least today Jodha does not keep mum, and tells Jalal that it was either his mother's life or her keeping  her religion.

This 'Talaq' drama is very confusing, but I am hoping it's a plan to get the truth out, and not that Jalal is genuinely telling Jodha. If this is something that he means really, than i will hope that it's that Chudails magic, and it will wear off soon due to JJ love. I WILL NOT WATCH AN MU NOW.


Today is the 500th episode, maybe they can at least show us some good scene's today? A Tedha Jalal would be a treat to watch.



I am not really expecting the talaq thing to be a dramaCry maybe jalal said it somehow kiu we will know today. But so many times we have wanted jalal and jodha to act pretend and have a plan b and it has never happenedSleepyall the time they were shown stupid believing what they see.Zada hope mat rakhna aadyOuchour mahan cvs are not capable of writing any such intelligent tracks,our jo ja acant actAngry

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Hey all! :)
Let me say this episode was more on the 'lets simply drag this MU' side, and less on the 'lets show Akdha as a mature couple' side.

If only I could, I would throttle the writers for presenting a completely uncreative sloppy script in the  form  of Natakiya Roopantar.Angry . 

It started off well, but played out to be quite a mixed up episode.

Justified Anger??
I felt that Jalal's anger was justified, because the whole point of the war he fought was to ensure that every citizen of his empire could choose their religion freely, but Jodha herself under pressure decided to change. Whether Jodha is right is not the question, but is Jalal's anger Justified... I feel it is. After promises to her husband and herself she was not only going against Jalal but her own heart by accepting Islam, which would be the biggest insult to the religion. This anger is just a reflection of Jalal's disappointment in Jodha, because he left for war knowing that Jodha would be propagating the same thought as his back home, but here she had succumbed to pressure. Not only succumber to pressure but was on the verge of losing her very identity.

Yes, Jalal has all the right to be angry. Rajat played the livid yet restrained Jalal to the hilt today. Clap Him feeling let down by the love of his life is totally justified. Yet at the same time, I wish it had occurred to him that Jodha would never take an extreme measure second time around, especially after promising him, not to do so, without a valid reason.

Is Jodha Wrong?
Wrong would be harsh, but to say that she dealt with the situation in the incorrect manner can be right. Instead of giving into the demands, I would have wanted Jodha to stand upto HB, and tell her why changing her religion would go against the very concept her son Jalal was fighting for. Situations were against Jodha, but she could have atleast dealt with it differently. If not the Jalal card she could have atleast told HB, that her accepting Islam would be an insult to the religion, because she could never give her heart to it. Or she could have just told HB that the war must be over by now.

Yes, Jodha could have tried to reason out the situation and Jalal's point of view with Hamida Begum, but do you honestly think MM would have listened to her? Hamida Begum was very well aware that forcible conversion into Islam is unacceptable, yet she forced Jodha to do so and ended up having a heart attack in court when Jodha refused to give in to her demands for the second time. HB was on a singlehanded mission of emotional manipulation and  self destruction. Jodha was at a loss as a daughter-in-law, wife and MEK. She was burdened with the feeling that her condition to Jalal of allowing her to practice hinduism within the Agra Mahal was proving to be the reason for immense unhappiness within the family and Hindustan. Saddled with this wrong notion, she set out to give into HB's request. HB's ' fast unto getting my way' pushed her into reconsidering conversion.

HB, GB turned on Mute:
Look's like HB and GB have very conveniently turned on their Mute buttons, and have nothing to say at all about Jodha's conversion. If Jalal had not returned and Jodha had converted, HB would be smiling from ear to ear, but now that Jalal is back safe and sound Hamida has totally forgotten that it was her food strike and GB's taunts that forced Jodha into taking such a decision in the first place. All that the 2 Royal ladies could do is sit and looke shocked, when they very much knew that Jodha would never have taken this step if not for them guilt tripping her. And what is this sudden overprotection for Jalal and the soldiers, it's not like this is the first war Jalal has been to.

The manner in which the characters of both Gulbadan Begum and Hamida Begum have been etched out is demeaning and insulting. Upon seeing Jodha in Mughal attire, the expression that HB had was one of "oh my, now that you've attempted conversion, due to my illogical behavior and my son is aware of it, I will be shredded to pieces". I wish Salima Begum steps in and apprises Jalal of the conditions in the mahal during his absence, the stress and trauma, Jodha had to undergo, due to his mothers'  petulant behavior, the heart attack drama in 'diwaan-e-khas' and her subsequent 'bhook hartal'. I don't think we will ever see Jodha defending herself and her actions to Jalal..

Distance...
Today's Akdha scene was atleast a little better off in terms of MU scenes because, usually their MU scenes consist of Jalal yelling at the top of his voice and Jodha just moping. So it was atleast okay to see how Jalal asked Jodha to leave before he loses his cool and utters something that he never meant. Right now Jalal needs some time to sort out his thoughts, maybe look athe situation from Jodha's point of view and to asesss the happenings of Agra as a whole, hopefully to piece together that it was HB Satyagraha that led to Jodha wanting to change her religion.

Precap??
Well hopefully the precap is just to add that Masala that the CV's just love. JJ have come such a long way and now these MU's really don't seem so possible. Staying distant away for a while, having small fights is okay at this stage, but to directly decide to divorce your 'soul mate' is something that I hope the CV's do not show at this stage, after establishing such a strong bond between Jalal and Jodha. So it could be

1) Rukaiyya's crazy dream, where her ambition of getting a huge MU between JJ happens.
or
2) This is maybe a Tedha plan of Jalal's, hoping to get the truth out of HB. Maybe he gets to know about the strained relations and knows that however much HB refuses to talk to Jodha she would never want Jodha to leave FOREVER from Agra and Jalal's life.

I will opt for point nos 2. Maybe Jalal has been updated about all the dramatic happenings in the Mahal during his absence. Declaring a 'talaq' maybe his idea of getting Hamida Begum to accept her mistakes and also proving to her that when she insisted that Jodha not adhere to Jalal's hokum and the promise given to him, then Jodha does not need to remain his wife anymore. He very well knows that this step will provoke both HB and Jodha to reveal the truth themselves.

The CreativesAngry could also be showing an unreasonable Jalal declaring Talaq as a result of muddled thinking, thanks to the influence of voodoo.

Awesome analysis as usual Aadhya.Smile Today's episode highlighted the writers Creativity at its worst. What a dismal, undignified portrayal of Jodha, Hamida Begum and Gulbadan Begum. Disapprove


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What a well written post. The disappointment everyone has faced due to the abysmal characterization of the Royal ladies is very much visible. They have resorted to showing this typical 'saas-bahu' drama, the only aspect in which JA used to be different from other serials.

I can't blame Jodha entirely here, but I will blame the CV's who have made Jodha mouth such terrible dialogues. Jodha was in a tight situation, where she did not want Jalal to come back to see his mother lying dead from Starvation, so she chose to save her mother's life. I can't say that she is wrong for this, however much I would have preferred her standing upto Ammijaan and putting the facts in front of her. But now she has not done that earlier, so I hope that at least today Jodha does not keep mum, and tells Jalal that it was either his mother's life or her keeping  her religion.

This 'Talaq' drama is very confusing, but I am hoping it's a plan to get the truth out, and not that Jalal is genuinely telling Jodha. If this is something that he means really, than i will hope that it's that Chudails magic, and it will wear off soon due to JJ love. I WILL NOT WATCH AN MU NOW.


Today is the 500th episode, maybe they can at least show us some good scene's today? A Tedha Jalal would be a treat to watch.



I am not really expecting the talaq thing to be a dramaCry maybe jalal said it somehow kiu we will know today. But so many times we have wanted jalal and jodha to act pretend and have a plan b and it has never happenedSleepyall the time they were shown stupid believing what they see.Zada hope mat rakhna aadyOuchour mahan cvs are not capable of writing any such intelligent tracks,our jo ja acant actAngry


Sayeri, Atifa track when half the forum had given up hope on Jalal, it ended up being a Tedha Plan. I still remember that episode where he will look at Jodha from behind the curtain and ''Ishq hai Vo Ehsaas', starts playing. Day Dreaming

There have been several incidents when we taught it was a plan too, but I don't think they will compromise by showing Jalal as such a impulsive person who will not even trying to look at all sides of the matter. If Jodha was going to give up her Kanha after refusing to change her religion once already, there must be something up, and I am trusting that Jalal will figure it out.

I really don't care even if there is rona-dona today, if it is a Tedha Plan, its enough for me. But even I am actually unsure now, because of this chudail thing. If the chudail was not there I would have been sure that it was a plan, but now it can swing anyway. Because he is going to become her 'Gulaam' or something on Kaali Pournami, so we never know, today's episode might as well be that Kaali Pournami. Confused


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