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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 2:00am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Missesha


I am not questioning CVs but just stating that CVs take extreme approach to all their situations i.e twist story to make one look completely bad and one completely helpless, when there a more subtle ways to handle the same situation and not make either characters look out of place.

Coming to the current situation of Anandi's promise, people have defended Anandi saying that she has a habit of behaving in an implulse fashion, whenever she sees someone suffering. And whenever her impulsive decision has backfired, she is the one who has lost the most. This is a fact and I agree to that. But my question (to the show-makers through their characterisation is) 'Should a character not grow?' Couldn't a situation be shown in a more subtle fashion instead of mere black and white?

How about? (hypothetically)

After bumping into Ratan Singh, if Anandi chooses to tell him that she will discuss the matter (without making any promise) with JaGan;  goes home,  passes the message, discusses the matter, puts forwards her points and allows JaGan their time to come a conclusion on Ratan -mannu reality. 

Wouldn't it have been a more meaningful scenario to watch? Same situation, but more subtle and closer to reality.

But No, CVs made A to make a promise in an impulsive. Such acts always and ever, makes Anandi appear as naive and foolish. After 20+ years of experience in social service, is Anandi still that naive? 

On the other hand, is Ganga indeed so selfish? They could have left her character grey (that of an insecured mother) and given her more subtle dialogues than making her appear pure selfish and dominating in this matter? 

Situations are always extreme in BV. I was not taking about this case in particular but so many cases, be is SaJa, or A forcing J to marry 3rd time, or A vs DB drug story, Anup-Alok, Shiv's death, and most ridiculous one was the way A lost Nandini and the way she landed in BH forever. Plus many more.

All these situations are too hard and extreme to believe or appreciate, even though the concept of that story may be nice.


@ Blue this was what she did finally and Anandi knew this was the only thing she can do after reaching BH. There was no need to make that promise to Ratan when she knew her limits.




Edited by Stalwart. - 06 May 2015 at 2:33am

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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 4:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by aparnauma


Helping other people -regardless of what state she is in and how miserable her life or how happy and  content she is  -  Anandi did always reach out to people.
Yes she doesn't think what problems that her helping nature will land her in - is it because she is stupid or is it because she doesn't think about herself?



Ummm... if we are talking of only Anandi, then she is one character who NEVER thinks. Either she acts out of impulsiveness or sits on some important information leading to a serious damage (mostly beyond repair).

But I am not talking about just Anandi here or just this Anandi- Ratan promise situation. I am talking about how CVs only show extremes in every situation, when most of these situations are quite controllable or have simpler solutions. Not just Anandi or Ganga, but to show a high-voltage drama, suddenly either characters appear as emotional fools or those who have lost their thinking capacity, or otherwise characters become selfish and insensitive.

I have never been convinced on the below situations and many others:

- How Shiv managed to get fooled by Rasika and how Rasika managed to come across so bold?
- Why Shekhars agreed to marry their daughter to a two-timed divorcee and an ex of their current DIL
- Why Singhs simply bowed down to SaJa alliance, without assessing its compatibility  or awkwardness
- Why Anandi chose not to expose DB after the drug drama
- Why she did not think of leaving her sick daughter at home instead of taking her along to save Pooja's wedding. 


My point through the above questions is that, to create a traumatizing situation or an action-packed drama, CVs leave obvious loop-holes, which makes it hard to accept the situation or feel sympathetic towards any character.
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In this particular situation, there was no need for an uninvited drama of Anandi promising something that's actually not her call and Ganga getting all hyper about it. The same situation of Ratan requesting to meet Mannu could have been handled more subtly. The focus of drama in this situation (Ratan-mannu) is not between ganga and anandi, rather it is Ganga against Ganga. 

As for Ganga's character, I have found her to be opportunist during her initial phase with Singhs, but then I would also give her the credit of putting with her husband's ex in the same roof for 11 years, and can understand her current outburst wrt Anandi. 




Edited by Missesha - 06 May 2015 at 4:17am
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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 6:17am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Missesha

In BV history, the story is always twisted to make one person look outright villian and the other person as 'the bechara/ bechari' suffering all the emotional atyachar.
There are two situations here:

 Anandi should not have made any promise to Ratan singh, as it was not her call to do so. She is wrong here. Both DS and J should have pointed that out to her. Anandi should have accepted her mistake and left it at that.

On the other hand, J and DS should have stepped up and told Ganga, that regardless of Anandi's promise or not, the underlying question is "doesn't Ratan Singh have a right to see his Son, and doesn't Mannu have a right to know about his biological parents?"They should have slowly drilled sense in Ganga, and got her to agree. But here both J and Dsa have taken a back seat. 

And now finally, Anandi decides to make it a mission to convince Ganga? Why? Why can't she leave Ganga alone? Why interfere in Ganga's life, just because she made a promise to a dying man and now wants to fulfill it at any cost? 

Why can't she just realise her folly, and leave things to JaGan? 

On one hand Anandi doesn't want to realise her folly, and on other hand she wants to make sure that she remains in good books of Ganga. 

So yeah, BV always have twisted ways of making one person look selfish and other one as 'bechara'. In this case Anandi is the trouble causer but will be seen as the poor soul and Ganga who is fairly wrong will be completely painted black.

In a way, it is good that Ganga is getting to taste her own medicine, when she was trying to play the 'poor soul' during Jagya-Ganga-Sumitra fiasco. Ganga may now realise how a mother feels, when someone unnecessarily takes control of their child / son. Back then Ganga was the trouble causer but Sumitra was painted black. 




Esha,  Anandi did exactly what you wrote she should do.

She saw a terminally ill person , made a promise. She herself realised the mistake in making the promise before consulting Jagan and let it there. She has not forced them or advise them to do anything.

After that she has not tried to convince anyone. She went to Ganga and apologised as though she knows making a promise to fulfil the desire of a dying man is right but she made a mistake for not consulting them. And she dont want that this should effect their bond so she came to her for forgiveness. 

Not for a once she act bechara, she clearly said she dont think making promise to a dying man was not her mistake.but what she thinks right  may not be right for others. So her mistake is she has not consulted Jagya Ganga

and I completely agree what you wrote abot  Ganga


Edited by hisusmita - 06 May 2015 at 6:41am

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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 6:42am | IP Logged
Originally posted by RTee

In yesterday's episode Anandi apologised to Ganga in person at the hospital. She was quite resigned about it.

Today, Ganga gloated about it to Jagya. Telling him that Anandi apologised because she knew she had done something wrong.

Jagya was astounded or even shocked that Anandi apologised. He enquired twice or thrice. Still could not believe it.

Jagya knows his childhood friend like the back of his hand, and he sensed something very wrong in this whole scenario. It is going to blow up around Ganga.

@bold - what a lie it was and it was told when jagya was supporting anandi, with an aim to turn him against anandi and to prove herself right. What a cheap tactic.

Jagya did not believe her because he knows anandi. Moreover, anandi had herself said that she does not  think she made any mistake by promising ratan. Why would she go to ganga and apologise ?

I am just waiting to see how he is going to react when he comes to know anandi is leaving BH and waiting for ganga to get a blast of her life.




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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 6:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Missesha

Originally posted by aparnauma


Helping other people -regardless of what state she is in and how miserable her life or how happy and  content she is  -  Anandi did always reach out to people.
Yes she doesn't think what problems that her helping nature will land her in - is it because she is stupid or is it because she doesn't think about herself?



Ummm... if we are talking of only Anandi, then she is one character who NEVER thinks. Either she acts out of impulsiveness or sits on some important information leading to a serious damage (mostly beyond repair).

But I am not talking about just Anandi here or just this Anandi- Ratan promise situation. I am talking about how CVs only show extremes in every situation, when most of these situations are quite controllable or have simpler solutions. Not just Anandi or Ganga, but to show a high-voltage drama, suddenly either characters appear as emotional fools or those who have lost their thinking capacity, or otherwise characters become selfish and insensitive.

I have never been convinced on the below situations and many others:

- How Shiv managed to get fooled by Rasika and how Rasika managed to come across so bold?
- Why Shekhars agreed to marry their daughter to a two-timed divorcee and an ex of their current DIL
- Why Singhs simply bowed down to SaJa alliance, without assessing its compatibility  or awkwardness
- Why Anandi chose not to expose DB after the drug drama
- Why she did not think of leaving her sick daughter at home instead of taking her along to save Pooja's wedding. 


My point through the above questions is that, to create a traumatizing situation or an action-packed drama, CVs leave obvious loop-holes, which makes it hard to accept the situation or feel sympathetic towards any character.
----

In this particular situation, there was no need for an uninvited drama of Anandi promising something that's actually not her call and Ganga getting all hyper about it. The same situation of Ratan requesting to meet Mannu could have been handled more subtly. The focus of drama in this situation (Ratan-mannu) is not between ganga and anandi, rather it is Ganga against Ganga. 

As for Ganga's character, I have found her to be opportunist during her initial phase with Singhs, but then I would also give her the credit of putting with her husband's ex in the same roof for 11 years, and can understand her current outburst wrt Anandi. 


Since enough and more has been said about all those issues happened pre leap 
Will confine here to this particular situation.
Don't know whether Anandi meeting Ratan was an unvited drama or not since Ganga would have reacted the same way who ever came up with this message that Ratan wanted to meet Mannu.
Or may be Ganga would not have been so belligerent if it had been someone else.

Anandi's intention was not to interfere had she wanted to change the things that are happening in BH she would have done long time back.Over 7 years they have given enough evidence about Anandi's perseverance and how she can persuade people but it doesn't look like she has  done any such thing.in BH and Jagya Ganga's lives.

She herself made a promise it is her basic nature to reach out to people in distress and that is what separates her from others her personal losses she doesn't count and that's what is essence of Anandi and that is the reason her story is worth being told.
She made the promise without stopping to think not because she is stupid she only saw a deperate dying man but she herself realised that it is not possible for fulfilling that promise.
She told Jagya and Ganag why she made that promise and Ganga didn't see it the way she saw the issue and she left it after apologising to Ganga.

Ganga was angry with Anandi because according to her Anandi could only see Ratan's pain and did not remember what she went through in Ratan's hands. How right was Ganga to accuse Anandi of that. Ganga was a stranger to her when she got her son back to her and now Ratan is a stranger to her when she decided to help him.
It is Ganga;s resentment which plied up over years that is speaking Anandi had been same way back then and now too. Only now that Ganga has stopped trying to be Anandi and her mask is falling off.

As a member of that household when things were happening right in front of her eyes like they way Jagya Ganga were arguing at the breakfast table she may have stepped in to diffuse the situation or she may have given suggestions now and than when the conversation was happening right in front of her. So the question interference doesn't arise there.When people are living together willingly or unwillingly they have to make an attempt to live together in harmony sharing ideas and accepting suggestions..May be Dsa and J found her suggestions more acceptable than Ganga's so what is she to do about that? By her own admission Ganga herself said that Jagya listens to Anandi more than herself. If Jagya Anandi happen to be on the same page what can Anandi do about it?Does she have to change her thoughts or live like a stranger? By Anandi's talk with Dsa it was quite obvious that Jagya heeding to Anandi was the problem for Ganga and is that called interference?
Shivam ringing up Jagya for ice cream or Mannu asking Anandi aout her opinion about his decision regarding schooling which were just a by product living under one roof and comfort levels.Do we say interference in all thise things?
Is Anandi butting in and disrupting their lives or is it Jagya and Ganga bringing Anandi up in their conversation to score points against each other?

We can't really say all this happened over night.Ganga's resentment of Anandi and her paranoia didn't happen over night and if it happened not because of Anandi it happened because of Dsa and Jagya.

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Posted: 06 May 2015 at 7:02am | IP Logged
don't worry ganga won't get blast of her life. J is not fool who will blast her 4 this 4 A & blast his wife. he knew that ganga is also not wrong thatswhy he doesn't hav any reply 4 ganga's question that will Aji tell shivam abt nandini?? 
and ganga's mask is not falling off. she never tried 2 b Aji.just bcoz she was/is equally gud but difft doesn't mean she  wore the mask
but it luks like Aji's mask is getting off.she must'd interfered in their prsnl matters so much that ganga now doesn't like her  interference .why 2 assume only DS & J r  responsible 4 it?

Aji must'd interfered in sum of their prsnl matters like at that b'fast table convo..why shud she instantly said wen J said 2 ganga u were not happy wid mannu going 2 mumbai Aji butted in oh yes i was  also wondering abt it why he did that but we"ll aks him later on.wats the need 2 say that wen DS'd already said that Ganga herself  was shocked 2 know abt mannu's decisions.

and yes ganga is rite that its Aji who only saw ratan's pain & not ganga's pain oderwise  she wudn't'd promised abt meeting.
aji was not apologising bcoz she realized she  did wrong in interfering JaGan's life but she wants 2 b in gud books of ganga & wants 2 make herself victim & 2 prove ganga wrong & moreover she wanted 2 start her mission 4 convincing but ganga who din't want 2  listen abt artan bcoz of her past tortures cut short her thinking Aji is genuinely realized that she interfered in it by making promise.

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