Posted: 06 June 2015 at 9:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Rehanism
Originally posted by K.Universe.<font size="3" face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">This is the key factor that sets hate speech apart from free speech. The target is a group of people. Any speech that incites violence or hatred against a group of people is rightly hate speech. Calling for attacks or excommunication of Muslims would rightly be hate speech. But ideas, ideologies and symbols are not living beings. They do not deserve the immunity from assault that human beings do. Therefore denigration of beliefs or symbols can't be hate speech regardless of how crude they are. Offense is subjective. But laws should be uniform.
To quote verbatim the definition in the link, Hate speech is a communication that carries no meaning other than the expression of hatred for some group, especially in circumstances in which the communication is likely to provoke violence. It is an incitement to hatred primarily against a group of persons defined in terms of race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, religion, sexual orientation, and the like. <font color="#0000FF">Hate speech can be any form of expression regarded as offensive to racial, ethnic and religious groups </font>and other discrete minorities or to women.
I am deeply offended by the Islamic position regarding non-believers. The Quran is outright abusive and spiteful against the non-believers; its full of graphic details of torture that awaits the non-believers and I am offended by the thought that millions of children around the world are subjected to such bigoted and scary ideas. The Christian belief that every child is a sinner by birth and deserves to suffer in hell for eternity unless he accepts Jesus is another offensive belief to me. But I still think Muslims and Christians should be free to have such twisted and morally abhorrent beliefs and preach them as well.
If we are really sincere about banning hate speech, I am afraid the first victims would be these 'Holy' books.</font>
What happens to non-believers afterlife isn't in our hands!
They were given a certain time to understand Everything and were given several signs as well but most of them ignored it...so if they are punished for that what can Muslims Or Christians do?
We believe in these beliefs and we cant twist our religion or Christianity to satisfy others.
But the thing is people shouldn't be bothered because you dont believe in that and neither do we people go on and rub it in your faces that you are wrong or pathetic or going to hell.
if anyone does it,THEY ARE WRONG,because in Surah Kafirun it Says to tell the non-believers that let us practice our religion and you practice yours.I think that explains what Islam wants from us Muslims.
By your opinion if a Bunch of Kids Draw a Perticular awkward Kids's humiliating drawing on their classroom's wall just for the 'fun' of it then it shouldn't be Ragging?
Because they didn't physically hurt him,pass Coments at him just used "Idea and Symbols" theory means they are innocent?
Then you should know many kids in U.S are finding Suicide as their only relief from those 'innocent'
I'm am not saying we will attempt suicide for that but what is wrong is wrong and it should be stopped rather than encouraged with the excuse of Religions.