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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 10:29am | IP Logged
Jaya, one important person u forgot to mention. His step mom nd Humayun's 1st wife bega begum aka haji begum. Akbar was really close to her nd she also loved him like her own son. Infact jalal was deeply hurt when she died. Cry

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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 10:59am | IP Logged
Originally posted by munnirony

Well as per JA daniyal is rukshar begum's son nd khanum is the daughter of daulat shad. Rest of the kids shayeed asmaan se aye hain. LOL

IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE CVS ARE AFRAID TO DISCLOSE THE DETAILS LOL


THIS IS PROLLY ONE OF THE MOST GUARDED SECRETS IN JA - 


JALAL KE BACHCHE KAISE HUE


UNKI MATAEIN KAUN THHI

LOL

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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 11:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by jayaks02

Jokes apart Sandhya, I feel he did not differentiate much between his sons. He infact may have liked Daniyal to do well. With Salim it became a cursed relationship - Salim started getting impatient from 1592. Akbar had lost most of Navratnas by then. I do not believe he put any of his wives or sons on a pedestal. MUZ attained extra importance due to her giving him first heir.
Akbar had respect and love for his mom, gulbhdhan and Jiji Anga. Of course to a certain extent he respected and valued what MK did for him and saltanat.

In wives, Salima could have been a enticing relationship as Salima was an evolved lady.

Somewhere I read Rajastani princesses were not educated beyond the age of 13-14. But going by ship trade etc, Begumsa must have been educated well or she had natural flair for business - Both are very significant. 


TRUE JAYA


SALIM WAS BORN AFTER MUCH WAITING AND EAGERNESS. WHAT WITH AKBAR DOING PADYATRA TO SIKRI N ALL


AND YET THE RELATIONSHIP SOURED QUITE BADLY. NOT FROM CHILDHOOD AS SHOWN IN JA BUT IT CERTAINLY DID SOUR


BOTH MURAD AND DANIYAAL WERE ALCOHOLICS AND DIED YOUNG. THIS AGAIN PUT PRESSURE ON SALIM I GUESS


HUGE COMMUNICATION AND OTHER ALLIED ISSUES CAUSED THEM BOTH TO NOT SEE EYE TO EYE ON MOST THINGS


ALSO SALIM AS A PERSON, THOUGH MUCH LOVED FOR LOT OF HIS GOOD WORK, WAS ALWAYS WEAK AS XOMPARED TO JALAL. HE FAILED TO KEEP HIS ADDICTIONS IN CHECK


SALIMA BEGUM WAS A POETESS, AND I GUESS, THIS IN ITSELF MUST HAVE DRAWN JALAL TO HER. HE SEEMS TO BE A PERSON WHO COULD APPRECIATE SUCH SUBTLE ARTS. YES JODHA GIVING HIM THE MUCH AWAITED HEIR, WOULD HAVE, TO AN EXTENT, CAUSED JALAL TO FAVOR HER. HER BUSINESS VENTURES WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER SURE SHOT DRAW COZ JALAL WAS ALWAYS VERY ENCOURAGING OF HIS WOMEN
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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 11:13am | IP Logged
Originally posted by jayaks02

Originally posted by Sandhya.A

Btw, how and why do the remaining begums of Jalal exist and wonder of wonders, how were the other children born? Perhaps he happened to visit them during the days that he had no jashns and khitaabs to announce in DEK and divided the 2 non-Jodha hours with them.



Power supply went down ( I mean diyas !! ) and in a confusion he went to some other hojra and performed (!)  - Option 1

Begumsa had gone to Amer for Summer vacation and hence ... ( Option 2)

All Harem members exercised their wish granted by Jalal after winning Mirchi war - 5 of them chose to exercise it but died mysteriously or conveniently as Lavi said LOL and hence Others chose to remain non-mums. LOL - Option 3

RUKS designed some evil plan and made this arrangement possible under extreme intoxication LOL - Option 4.

Once Jalal came to know of the act in the morning - sober state, he started beating chest and crying to Begumsa - How did/could  I do that  ? Begumsa consoled him and forgave. Another mahantaa added to her Sun like circle. LOL


HILARIOUS JAYA


OPTION 1 SEEMS TOO FLIMSY


OPTIONS 2 AND 3 SEEM LIKELY


OPTION 4 AGAIN NOT VERY CONVINCING


AND OF COURSE LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE IN JA, BEGUMSA KI MAHAANTA KI KOI SEEMA NAHI HAI LOL

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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 11:59am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sabdabhala

Originally posted by munnirony

Well as per JA daniyal is rukshar begum's son nd khanum is the daughter of daulat shad. Rest of the kids shayeed asmaan se aye hain. LOL

IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE CVS ARE AFRAID TO DISCLOSE THE DETAILS LOL


THIS IS PROLLY ONE OF THE MOST GUARDED SECRETS IN JA - 


JALAL KE BACHCHE KAISE HUE


UNKI MATAEIN KAUN THHI

LOL

i was actually shocked when they said daulat shad is khanum's mom & guess wht she is alive. real akbar & daulat shad has a rangela past just imagine begumsa's mahanta if reel jalal also had done the same.LOL

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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 12:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sabdabhala

Originally posted by munnirony

Well as per JA daniyal is rukshar begum's son nd khanum is the daughter of daulat shad. Rest of the kids shayeed asmaan se aye hain. LOL

IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE CVS ARE AFRAID TO DISCLOSE THE DETAILS LOL


THIS IS PROLLY ONE OF THE MOST GUARDED SECRETS IN JA - 


JALAL KE BACHCHE KAISE HUE


EUNKI MATAEIN KAUN THHI

LOL
pehle to bataya tha ivf,they were advance you knowWinkLOLEmbarrassed

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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 10:07pm | IP Logged


GIRLS I HAVE A DINNER PARTY AT MY PLACE TODAY


MENU IS RAJASTHANI FOOD - GATTE KI SUBZI, PANCHMEL DAAL, KADHI LOL


I AM SURE U KNOW THAT THIS IS IN HONOR OF MY MOST FAV ACTRESS Wink


BTW DID U KNOW ITS HER BDAY TODAY TOO ROFL

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Posted: 14 May 2015 at 11:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by munnirony

Originally posted by jayaks02

Akbar's Mystical streaks is probably the result of his mom side genes. His mother is from Shia muslim family but aristocratic from a knowledge sense - Akbar's maternal GF was a sufi saint type character, I think.
 
Munni - any other info on this ?
 
 

ur right. even babur & humayun also tried to be liberal. its said after defeating rana sanga babur didnt attack further bcoz sanga was injured tht time. sanga was killed by his own people. humayun accepted pratap's grand mom as his sister but he was misunderstood bcoz he wasnt able to reach there in time & karmawati bai had to take jauhar.


CHENGIZ KHAN, KUBLAI KHAN AND EVEN TAIMUR - ALL HAD SOME SORT OF MYSTICAL INFLUENCES - SOME MORE AND SOME LESS - I GUESS THAT MUST HAVE PASSED ON TO AKBAR. 

OF COURSE HE HIMSELF WAS A FAST AND VAST LEARNER AND A KEEN OBSERVER WITH AN OPEN MIND


I GUESS ONE MUGHAL WHO WAS REALLY INTERESTED IN THE MYSTICS ETC WAS DARA SHIKOH


HE APPARENTLY SOUGHT COMPANY OF SUFIS, MYSTICS AND HINDU MEDICANTS


AND WAS ALSO DEEPLY INTERESTED IN HUMANISM, UNIVERSAL BROTHERHOOD ETC


VERY INFLUENCED BY AKBAR


Edited by Sabdabhala - 14 May 2015 at 11:56pm

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