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Posted: 04 May 2015 at 3:08pm | IP Logged

I have written Jagya's  exact words Where he said Anandi is complete right her POV is complete right or  even he said i agree with you Anandi ?


Jagya said if i think from Ratan's POV what you are saying is right when Anandi was talking about Ratan keeping his promise , he was desperate to meet Mannu but still he did not interfere in Mannu's life and his soul will never find peace in this birth no matter how much he repents  Jagya says if i see things from Ratan's POV what you are saying is correct 

Jagya showed his concern towards Mannu  He does not know how mannu will react this after learning this truth 

He said i have been trying to convince Ganga over it from many years to tell Mannu about Ratan Singh because its better Mannu comes to know from his mother than any other person and he won't get a shocker 

but ganga does not wish to tell him about this 

Dadisaa asked them to find a solution of this which goes in best interest of all and with agreement of all Means Ganga too agrees 

Jagya is not making a one sided decision He could tell Mannu about it but he did not because Ganga is not convinced  In all these years  he is trying to take Ganga into confidence but Ganga has her reasons she does not wish to tell Mannu  about it  Jagya's all points are valid  The best person to tell Mannu about this is Mannu's mother herself and Jagya still did not agree to send Mannu to Ratan because Ganga is not convinced so i don't know how it is said he would have done same had he met Ratan Singh what Anandi did Its so clear he would not have given any promise to Ratan Singh without Ganga' s agreement  even though he is Mannu's father and can take any decision about him but he is not taking Ganga for granted He is concerned for everyone  Even concerned about Mannu how he will react to this and Anandi ? she gave promise to Ratan Singh without asking from Jagya and Ganga without thinking about how suddenly Mannu will react to this ? Jagya would never have done what Anandi did even though he wants to help Ratan as well but he wont be giving any promise without taking Ganga into confidence But Anandi ? she did not even consulted anyone  nor even Jagya and gave a promise to Ratan and expected Jagya and Ganga will follow it with her preaching ?

Even right now Jagya did not lectured Ganga  She said to him don't try to convince me He gave her break  her space not bombarding her with lectures forcing her to agree to this The way Anandi was lecturing 


Edited by mahi12 - 04 May 2015 at 4:30pm

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Posted: 04 May 2015 at 3:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mahi12

Originally posted by Stephi


for you stephi
Anandi was telling  Jagya Dadisaa  when Ratan told her he honestly fulfilled the promise of staying away from Mannu then i realized he is speaking the truth From so many years he did not try to interfere in Mannus life and tried to know about him  That means he is fulfilling the promise of not interfering in Mannu's life but still Mannu is part of his life  His mother said he always talked about him Always remember him i have felt seeing him if tries to repent for his ill deeds million times his soul will never be at peace in this birth

Jagya said after hearing this  if i think from Ratan's POV then what you are saying is right but Mannu ? We all know Mannu does not know about this truth at all and i don't know how Mannu will react to this when he will come to know about this truth i am trying to convince Ganga from many years that she herself  tells Mannu about this truth  Tell him about who is real father  , tell him about Ratan singh so that Mannu won't get shocked hearing from any other person but Ganga does not wish to She does not want Mannu to know anything about Ratan Singh 

Dadisaa tells them that now you both are thinking so much so think what step we have to take now Find such solution which is with agreement of all 


awww it's very kind of you, thank you very much.Hug You have to admit  the sentence ''if i think from Ratan's POV then what you are saying is right but Mannu? is completely different from J&A are a. team .



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wow someone should learn how to twist and turn dialogues and scenes here just to put Ganga down and uplift Anandi ji 
Thank you mahi for putting Jagya's words here 

I don't know when he even said I agree with you  Anandi or  your point of view is complete rightWackoso how it is declared he agrees with Anandi's point of view ? How it is made Jagya and Anandi are a team While Jagya's words clearly told he does not wish to be part of Anandi ji's team He wants to involve Ganga in his decision Even Dadisaa wants to take Ganga along in any decision Not without her 

Anandi was talking about Ratan keeping his promise to never interfere in Mannu's life , she said he was desperate to meet Mannu yet he kept himself away and that seeing him even she  felt Ratan's soul will never be at peace in this birth  no matter how much he repent 

Jagya said if i think from Ratan's POV what you are saying is right but Mannu?

Jagya said what we were saying he showed concern towards Mannu Mannu does not know anything and all of sudden telling him this how the kid will react to this  Anandi ji of course did not think about this before giving promise to ratan she is nothing to Mannu How she will think about him ? Jagya is Mannus father he thought 

Jagya said he has been trying to convince Ganga from many years so that SHE TELLS MANNU ABOUT RATAN SINGH SO THAT MANNU WON'T GET SHOCKED HEARING FROM ANY OTHER PERSON BUT GANGA DOES NOT WISH TO TELL HIM SHE DOES NOT WANT MANNU TO KNOW ABOUT RATAN

Jagya could tell Mannu himself but he does not want to make decision himself wihout ganga's involvement He wants ganga to tell this to Mannu because that will best for mannu he comes to know about this from his mother and even right now he did not agree to send Mannu to Ratan because he cannot take Mannu for granted here whom he gives shocker all a  sudden neither he is taking Ganga for granted here forcing his decision He wants Ganga to get convinced and he did not even forced ganga right now tried to convince gave her space because Ganga needs that Jagya is not forcing his point of view on Ganga's head with moral policing , preaching the way Anandi is doing and its so clear had he met Ratan Singh he would have convinced Ganga before giving any promise to Ratan singh just like he did not take Mannu to ratan even right now because Ganga is not convinced neither in all these years he told Mannu this himself going against Ganga . Jagya is the best so proud of him  He is so wise and mature He is so right Ganga should tell Mannu about herself that will be best for Mannu and also he is not  taking any decision without Ganga's consent  and Anandi she did not bother to ask Jagya and Ganga and gave promise to Ratan ? Amazing  and Jagya is Mannu's father he can take decision but he knows the sensitivity of this matter and taking rightful steps being considerate to Ganga and Mannu both and Anandi she was third person and came giving promise to ratan singh without asking Jagya and Ganga and even  thinking how Mannu will suddenly react to this ?


so how people are putting Jagya in Anandi's team ?



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Posted: 04 May 2015 at 5:00pm | IP Logged
and Ganga she was having flashback of how Ratan tried to snatch Mannu from her  
She got scared Ratan has tried to snatch Mannu from her so many times right now after years he wants to meet Mannu  breaking his own promise so Ganga a fear has come in her heart he will try to separate Mannu from her thats why she was so scared remembering past and emotionally hugged Mannu and asked him not to go anywhere and come back home 


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Posted: 04 May 2015 at 7:33pm | IP Logged
There is only Ratan's point of view which Anandi presented to them all and then there is Ganga's POV which she told them about.
Ratan has full rights over his son when he relinquished them in the best interests of his son. He kept his promise

But Ganga is not the one who kept her promise.She promised him full access to his son.Then why did she go back on that?

Her son has right to know about his parentage why is denying his right to know? Tomorrow if he gets to know that from somewhere else and he demands an answer from her then what will she say?

It is not about Jagya agreeing with Anandi but conceding to the arguemnet  that Ratan has a right to meet his son.

Anandi only made a promise to a dying man that she will fulfill his wish which is not wrong but she already said that she made a mistake by not asking them at that time. 

Both Dsa and Jagya removed themselves from the situation.

Like somebody said - if Anandi can't fulfill the promise she made to a dying man she will feel horrible and live with that feeling that she couldn't help somebody

But if Ganga doesn't agree to this meeting and Ratan dies without meeting his son the consequences will be far greater for Mannu Ganga and Jagya.

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Posted: 04 May 2015 at 8:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by aparnauma

There is only Ratan's point of view which Anandi presented to them all and then there is Ganga's POV which she told them about.
Ratan has full rights over his son when he relinquished them in the best interests of his son. He kept his promise

But Ganga is not the one who kept her promise.She promised him full access to his son.Then why did she go back on that?

Her son has right to know about his parentage why is denying his right to know? Tomorrow if he gets to know that from somewhere else and he demands an answer from her then what will she say?

It is not about Jagya agreeing with Anandi but conceding to the arguemnet  that Ratan has a right to meet his son.

Anandi only made a promise to a dying man that she will fulfill his wish which is not wrong but she already said that she made a mistake by not asking them at that time. 

Both Dsa and Jagya removed themselves from the situation.

Like somebody said - if Anandi can't fulfill the promise she made to a dying man she will feel horrible and live with that feeling that she couldn't help somebody

But if Ganga doesn't agree to this meeting and Ratan dies without meeting his son the consequences will be far greater for Mannu Ganga and Jagya.

  Anandi will certainly feel bad if she could not fulfill her promise to a dying man but at least she will be aware that she did everything in her power to fulfill it as she tried her best to convince Mannu's current parents for fulfilling last wish of a dying man . So her own conscious will be clear though she will suffer on account of Ratan Singh's pain.
   But what will Jagan do if Ratan dies without meeting his son. Will J be able to live in peace that he could not make Ganga , his eternal partner to agree with his POV regarding Ratan and do the right thing for him? 
   And Ganga, can she live with this knowledge that she not only retracted from the promise she made herself but also deprived a dying man who once saved her son and then surrendered his rights on that son willingly, a chance to see him once? Perhaps she  might now when the carefully laid mask is slipping we are becoming more aware of her capabilities. Ermm 
   As for Mannu , he will certainly come to know this truth one day then how he will be able for give his mother who not only kept the truth about his parentage from him but also prevented him fulfilling his father's last wish?
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  I am least bothered to know who is in Anandi's team or not. 
 Only interested in knowing that who is doing right thing for a dying man who is not 'Rakshas' anymore and who is not. 


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Posted: 04 May 2015 at 9:03pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by anshurg5

Originally posted by aparnauma

There is only Ratan's point of view which Anandi presented to them all and then there is Ganga's POV which she told them about.
Ratan has full rights over his son when he relinquished them in the best interests of his son. He kept his promise

But Ganga is not the one who kept her promise.She promised him full access to his son.Then why did she go back on that?

Her son has right to know about his parentage why is denying his right to know? Tomorrow if he gets to know that from somewhere else and he demands an answer from her then what will she say?

It is not about Jagya agreeing with Anandi but conceding to the arguemnet  that Ratan has a right to meet his son.

Anandi only made a promise to a dying man that she will fulfill his wish which is not wrong but she already said that she made a mistake by not asking them at that time. 

Both Dsa and Jagya removed themselves from the situation.

Like somebody said - if Anandi can't fulfill the promise she made to a dying man she will feel horrible and live with that feeling that she couldn't help somebody

But if Ganga doesn't agree to this meeting and Ratan dies without meeting his son the consequences will be far greater for Mannu Ganga and Jagya.

  Anandi will certainly feel bad if she could not fulfill her promise to a dying man but at least she will be aware that she did everything in her power to fulfill it as she tried her best to convince Mannu's current parents for fulfilling last wish of a dying man . So her own conscious will be clear though she will suffer on account of Ratan Singh's pain.
   But what will Jagan do if Ratan dies without meeting his son. Will J be able to live in peace that he could not make Ganga , his eternal partner to agree with his POV regarding Ratan and do the right thing for him? 
   And Ganga, can she live with this knowledge that she not only retracted from the promise she made herself but also deprived a dying man who once saved her son and then surrendered his rights on that son willingly, a chance to see him once? Perhaps she  might now when the carefully laid mask is slipping we are becoming more aware of her capabilities. Ermm 
   As for Mannu , he will certainly come to know this truth one day then how he will be able for give his mother who not only kept the truth about his parentage from him but also prevented him fulfilling his father's last wish?
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  I am least bothered to know who is in Anandi's team or not. 
 Only interested in knowing that who is doing right thing for a dying man who is not 'Rakshas' anymore and who is not. 
Exactly Anandi will feel bad if she is not able to fulfil the promise she made to a dying man 
But she will live with he feeling that she tried her best even she failed in fulfilling his promise

Jagya and Ganga wonder if they will be able to live with the knowledge that they knew about his dying wish and yet chose not to fulfil that wish.

Jagya for all his faults has a strong conscience will it allow him to live in peace if he doesn't make that meeting possible?

Ganga - On one hand she accepts that he has changed and yet doesn't want to Ratan to meet his son just because of the past. Does that mean she is still stuck in the past?

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 Do not know whether she is stuck in past or she is using past to shield her from whatever conscious she has, knowing well that what she is doing is not right. 

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  She lectured Anandi about right or wrong of her action. Why do not she lecture herself about the same ?
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 Btw Ganga delegated the responsibilities and duties of Mannu from the start to J but kept the rights for taking any decision regarding him for herself only. J was asking from 5 years to tell Mannu about his parentage but instead of considering his point she tried to shut him up by putting a disgusting blame on him. Dead   What kind of marriage is this? 

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     If J knows that what is right regarding Ratan Singh's wish and he also endorses the POV that Mannu should know about his father from last 5 years then why he is standing silently and watching that Ganga doind wrong thing ? 
  Why he could not convince his eternal life partner to do the right thing from such a long time? Any way if he will still keep standing on periphery and let Ganga walk on wrong path , he will be equally responsible for whatever wrong Ganga will commit regarding Mannu and Ratan Singh.  

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