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ButterflyOnRose

@ButterflyOnRose

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Posted: 8 years ago

wow someone should learn how to twist and turn dialogues and scenes here just to put Ganga down and uplift Anandi ji

Thank you mahi for putting Jagya's words here

I don't know when he even said I agree with you Anandi or your point of view is complete rightso how it is declared he agrees with Anandi's point of view ? How it is made Jagya and Anandi are a team While Jagya's words clearly told he does not wish to be part of Anandi ji's team He wants to involve Ganga in his decision Even Dadisaa wants to take Ganga along in any decision Not without her

Anandi was talking about Ratan keeping his promise to never interfere in Mannu's life , she said he was desperate to meet Mannu yet he kept himself away and that seeing him even she felt Ratan's soul will never be at peace in this birth no matter how much he repent

Jagya said if i think from Ratan's POV what you are saying is right but Mannu?

Jagya said what we were saying he showed concern towards Mannu Mannu does not know anything and all of sudden telling him this how the kid will react to this Anandi ji of course did not think about this before giving promise to ratan she is nothing to Mannu How she will think about him ? Jagya is Mannus father he thought

Jagya said he has been trying to convince Ganga from many years so that SHE TELLS MANNU ABOUT RATAN SINGH SO THAT MANNU WON'T GET SHOCKED HEARING FROM ANY OTHER PERSON BUT GANGA DOES NOT WISH TO TELL HIM SHE DOES NOT WANT MANNU TO KNOW ABOUT RATAN

Jagya could tell Mannu himself but he does not want to make decision himself wihout ganga's involvement He wants ganga to tell this to Mannu because that will best for mannu he comes to know about this from his mother and even right now he did not agree to send Mannu to Ratan because he cannot take Mannu for granted here whom he gives shocker all a sudden neither he is taking Ganga for granted here forcing his decision He wants Ganga to get convinced and he did not even forced ganga right now tried to convince gave her space because Ganga needs that Jagya is not forcing his point of view on Ganga's head with moral policing , preaching the way Anandi is doing and its so clear had he met Ratan Singh he would have convinced Ganga before giving any promise to Ratan singh just like he did not take Mannu to ratan even right now because Ganga is not convinced neither in all these years he told Mannu this himself going against Ganga . Jagya is the best so proud of him He is so wise and mature He is so right Ganga should tell Mannu about herself that will be best for Mannu and also he is not taking any decision without Ganga's consent and Anandi she did not bother to ask Jagya and Ganga and gave promise to Ratan ? Amazing and Jagya is Mannu's father he can take decision but he knows the sensitivity of this matter and taking rightful steps being considerate to Ganga and Mannu both and Anandi she was third person and came giving promise to ratan singh without asking Jagya and Ganga and even thinking how Mannu will suddenly react to this ?

so how people are putting Jagya in Anandi's team ?

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ButterflyOnRose

@ButterflyOnRose

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Posted: 8 years ago

and Ganga she was having flashback of how Ratan tried to snatch Mannu from her

She got scared Ratan has tried to snatch Mannu from her so many times right now after years he wants to meet Mannu breaking his own promise so Ganga a fear has come in her heart he will try to separate Mannu from her thats why she was so scared remembering past and emotionally hugged Mannu and asked him not to go anywhere and come back home

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aparnauma

@aparnauma

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Posted: 8 years ago

There is only Ratan's point of view which Anandi presented to them all and then there is Ganga's POV which she told them about.

Ratan has full rights over his son when he relinquished them in the best interests of his son. He kept his promise

But Ganga is not the one who kept her promise.She promised him full access to his son.Then why did she go back on that?

Her son has right to know about his parentage why is denying his right to know? Tomorrow if he gets to know that from somewhere else and he demands an answer from her then what will she say?

It is not about Jagya agreeing with Anandi but conceding to the arguemnet that Ratan has a right to meet his son.

Anandi only made a promise to a dying man that she will fulfill his wish which is not wrong but she already said that she made a mistake by not asking them at that time.

Both Dsa and Jagya removed themselves from the situation.

Like somebody said - if Anandi can't fulfill the promise she made to a dying man she will feel horrible and live with that feeling that she couldn't help somebody

But if Ganga doesn't agree to this meeting and Ratan dies without meeting his son the consequences will be far greater for Mannu Ganga and Jagya.

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anshurg5

@anshurg5

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: aparnauma
There is only Ratan's point of view which Anandi presented to them all and then there is Ganga's POV which she told them about.
Ratan has full rights over his son when he relinquished them in the best interests of his son. He kept his promise

But Ganga is not the one who kept her promise.She promised him full access to his son.Then why did she go back on that?

Her son has right to know about his parentage why is denying his right to know? Tomorrow if he gets to know that from somewhere else and he demands an answer from her then what will she say?

It is not about Jagya agreeing with Anandi but conceding to the arguemnet that Ratan has a right to meet his son.

Anandi only made a promise to a dying man that she will fulfill his wish which is not wrong but she already said that she made a mistake by not asking them at that time.

Both Dsa and Jagya removed themselves from the situation.

Like somebody said - if Anandi can't fulfill the promise she made to a dying man she will feel horrible and live with that feeling that she couldn't help somebody

But if Ganga doesn't agree to this meeting and Ratan dies without meeting his son the consequences will be far greater for Mannu Ganga and Jagya.

Anandi will certainly feel bad if she could not fulfill her promise to a dying man but at least she will be aware that she did everything in her power to fulfill it as she tried her best to convince Mannu's current parents for fulfilling last wish of a dying man . So her own conscious will be clear though she will suffer on account of Ratan Singh's pain.

But what will Jagan do if Ratan dies without meeting his son. Will J be able to live in peace that he could not make Ganga , his eternal partner to agree with his POV regarding Ratan and do the right thing for him?

And Ganga, can she live with this knowledge that she not only retracted from the promise she made herself but also deprived a dying man who once saved her son and then surrendered his rights on that son willingly, a chance to see him once? Perhaps she might now when the carefully laid mask is slipping we are becoming more aware of her capabilities. 🤔

As for Mannu , he will certainly come to know this truth one day then how he will be able for give his mother who not only kept the truth about his parentage from him but also prevented him fulfilling his father's last wish?

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I am least bothered to know who is in Anandi's team or not.

Only interested in knowing that who is doing right thing for a dying man who is not 'Rakshas' anymore and who is not.

Edited by anshurg5 - 8 years ago

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aparnauma

@aparnauma

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: anshurg5

Anandi will certainly feel bad if she could not fulfill her promise to a dying man but at least she will be aware that she did everything in her power to fulfill it as she tried her best to convince Mannu's current parents for fulfilling last wish of a dying man . So her own conscious will be clear though she will suffer on account of Ratan Singh's pain.
But what will Jagan do if Ratan dies without meeting his son. Will J be able to live in peace that he could not make Ganga , his eternal partner to agree with his POV regarding Ratan and do the right thing for him?
And Ganga, can she live with this knowledge that she not only retracted from the promise she made herself but also deprived a dying man who once saved her son and then surrendered his rights on that son willingly, a chance to see him once? Perhaps she might now when the carefully laid mask is slipping we are becoming more aware of her capabilities. 🤔
As for Mannu , he will certainly come to know this truth one day then how he will be able for give his mother who not only kept the truth about his parentage from him but also prevented him fulfilling his father's last wish?
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I am least bothered to know who is in Anandi's team or not.
Only interested in knowing that who is doing right thing for a dying man who is not 'Rakshas' anymore and who is not.

Exactly Anandi will feel bad if she is not able to fulfil the promise she made to a dying man

But she will live with he feeling that she tried her best even she failed in fulfilling his promise

Jagya and Ganga wonder if they will be able to live with the knowledge that they knew about his dying wish and yet chose not to fulfil that wish.

Jagya for all his faults has a strong conscience will it allow him to live in peace if he doesn't make that meeting possible?

Ganga - On one hand she accepts that he has changed and yet doesn't want to Ratan to meet his son just because of the past. Does that mean she is still stuck in the past?

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anshurg5

@anshurg5

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Posted: 8 years ago

Do not know whether she is stuck in past or she is using past to shield her from whatever conscious she has, knowing well that what she is doing is not right.

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She lectured Anandi about right or wrong of her action. Why do not she lecture herself about the same ?

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Btw Ganga delegated the responsibilities and duties of Mannu from the start to J but kept the rights for taking any decision regarding him for herself only. J was asking from 5 years to tell Mannu about his parentage but instead of considering his point she tried to shut him up by putting a disgusting blame on him. 🤢 What kind of marriage is this?

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If J knows that what is right regarding Ratan Singh's wish and he also endorses the POV that Mannu should know about his father from last 5 years then why he is standing silently and watching that Ganga doind wrong thing ?

Why he could not convince his eternal life partner to do the right thing from such a long time? Any way if he will still keep standing on periphery and let Ganga walk on wrong path , he will be equally responsible for whatever wrong Ganga will commit regarding Mannu and Ratan Singh.

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aparnauma

@aparnauma

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves
This is not the first time for anandi to face this kind of situation.

Gehna, Nandu, Basant and even Sumitra were very angry when anandi as a sarpanch took a stand.

When anandi stood for Asha, Sugna's sasuralwale were angry. I dont remember those episodes much but I have some memories.

And with Ira during Sanchi episode. The entire saga upto the court case. Ira versus anandi.

She goes by instinct and only sometimes, her instinct fails. During that dance teacher episode.

Coming to the topic itself yes this is not the first time Anandi was faced with this dilemma because of a clash between her beliefs of what is right and what is wrong and her relationships.

Come to think of it most of hers struggles right from her child hood till now it is all about this clash only.All the obstacles in her path came from someone close to her at every given time. While it made a very good family drama it also showed how difficult it is to go against your near and dear ones.

Fighting a corrupt politician or fighting someone who has shown you nothing but torture is relatively easier because there are no conflicting emotions.

Fighting with some one who loved you or gonig against someone whom you love and had a relationship with that person is so much more difficult that too if one values that relationship a lot and yet wants to do the right thing.

While she is quite an intelligent girl who performed very well in school when ever she got to attend school and done well in academics in her chosen field established school in Jaitser set up an adult education programme while she herself was getting educated. Then all the dvelopmental projects that she has undertaken while she was a sarpanch then post her marriage setting up bhaili then doing trouble shooting when her own family members caused problems are all the things that are evidences for her rational thinking side. She was able to carry outsiders along with her in all these things she did prove herself to be a leadership material too where the society is concerned.

But her toughest battles came from with in her family doing a balancing act between relationships and her own beliefs of what is right and what is wrong.

Even here she is not wrong - trying to fulfil a dying man's last wish is not wrong.

The execution of that act was wrong - she should have spoken with Jagya and Ganga at that time.

She may have to live the the knowledge that she tried to help someone but couldn't do so which is relatively a small thing as when compared to what Ganga and Jagya have to live with if this wish is not fulfilled.

Edited by aparnauma - 8 years ago

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Vidya

@Shinya

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: libsrocks

did you even notice whom have you compared: jagya and anandi
jagya happens to be mannu's legal father and anandi is mannu's relative (just by name, not even blood)!
jagya gets the right to make decisions and anandi doesn't.

Let me say it again if my comment or the scene where anandi made the promise is not understood... The promise anandi made was not because of her rights over mannu... It was not even in her mind at that time.

It was only and only to calm down a man who was crying before her to fulfill his last wish.

After she made the promise, she herself realised that she has promised something which she might never be able to fulfill...She told this to dadisa.

Regarding jagya, agree he has adopted mannu. But it looks like he has no say whatsoever in mannu's matters... it is only ganga who will decide whether mannu should be told about his father or not.

If Jagya' decision mattered, mannu would have known this fact 5 yrs ago. So even if jagya had made the promise, ganga's reaction would have been the same.

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dolly

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Posted: 8 years ago

if A has 2 calm down a crying man then she cud'd promised him only that she will talk 2 JaGan abt it. she cud'd promised this only . but she thot she can do anything & all will follow her & only her way is correct & universally shud b accepted.

and J'd also say in mannu's life oderwise J wudn't'd said 2 ganga wen he brought form 4 mannu that now don't ask mannu not 2 go 2 mumbai as hes grown up. let him take the decision nor ganga wud'd instantly agreed wid J.

but as usual twisting the facts has bcum hobby so that ganga shud b blamed & A is shown a svictim

if he din't/doesn't want 2 tell mannu abt ratan its only that he knew he ganga shud b taken in2 confidence as shes mannu's mom.and thatswhy hes trying 2 convince her & moreover he himself said that it will b better if mannu cums 2 know abt all thru his mom only.bcoz if J will alone try 2 tell then mannu may MU that J is just glossing over & making himself as sum gud prsn & his bio parent as bad.

and moreover he'd understood ganga's fears of loosing mannu .and it was clear from ystrday's epi that why ganga din't/doesn't want 2 tell abt ratan wen she rembrd those tortures by ratan.

and if ganga tells then mannu will not MU J & will not b distant wid J. so its not taht J ahs no say in mannu's life.

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RainbowKitty

@RainbowKitty

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Posted: 8 years ago

Please don't take my post as an attack on any fan group but i am extremely shocked to read here how serial facts are twisted and turned here in defense of Anandi

Jagya agreed to Anandi's Point of view yestersay i am like what when where ? where he approved her act what she did is right of giving promise to Ratan Singh without asking them .? where he said i agree with you Anandi ?

Anandi was talking about Ratan Singh He kept his promise , he was desperate to meet with Mannu yet he never interfered in Mannu's life ,it cannot be denied Mannu 's part of his life , Ratan seeing him i can say no matter how much he repent now his soul cannot at be peace in this birth

Jagya said if i see from Ratan's Point of view what you are saying is correct Jagya meant about Ratan Singh being right Yes he is not doing any drama here but he has been true to his promise

Jagya was not agreeing with Anandi's point of view He was presenting his point of view

Anandi was only talking about Ratan's point of view She did not talk about Mannu , Ganga 's point of view at all Neither while giving promise to Ratan Singh she thought about Jagya Ganga and Mannus point of view and made a decision while Jagya did not make any decision of sending Mannu to Ratan arrange this meeting without thinking about Ganga and Mannu He was talking and thinking from their point of view as well

Anandi was only talking about Ratan's rights

Jagya was talking about Mannu's rights to know about this truth and this has been his point of view always That Mannu should know about this truth

Anandi was only talking about Ratan rights and his point view

Jagya was talking about Ganga's right to tell this to Mannu He said he has been trying to convince Ganga all these years so that she tells Mannu this and Mannu won't get shocked hearing from any other person

Anandi is only seeing Ratan's last wish and his emotions

While Jagya along with that is also seeing Mannu and Ganga's emotions involved in it which Anandi did not bother before making promise to Ratan

Some people are here saying Had Jagya met Ratan he would have done same as Anandi ? Well first Jagya is Mannu's father he can take any decision about him but Anandi is nothing to Mannu she cannot take any decision about him without parents consent but from yesterday its so clear Jagya would never have done what Anandi did He would never have given any promise to Ratan without convincing Ganga and Mannu first Because he is not thinking from one side only like Anandi who is only thinking from Ratan's Point of view Jagya is thinking from Ganga and Mannu's point of view too and wants to take them along with him in any decision in this sensitive matter

In all these years he could tell Mannu about his truth himself but he did not because Ganga is not convinced Even right now he could send Mannu to Ratan but he did not make any decision on it because he cannot give a shocker to Mannu all of a sudden neither without Ganga's consent he wants to do anything He is thinking for best interest of everyone therefore wants a way which goes in best interest of everyone not Ratan only He is thinking about best interest of Mannu and he is bang on right Ganga is ideally the best person to do this Tell Mannu the truth

so how Jagya and Anandi's Point of views are compared where Anandi only thought and is thinking one sided Ratan and his wish while Jagya is thinking about everyone's point of view Gangas Mannu too and don't want to force on them any one sided decision

and Anandi i found her amazing even now What makes her think she can convince Ganga? why not leave Ganga on her husband He convinces her Anandi first went to Ganga's office for this matter why to disturb her there why not wait for her at home These matters are to be discussed at home not office and then when Jagya gave her space she was already disturbed then why it is so difficult for Anandi to give Ganga some space some time ?

Really why it is so tough for Anandi to let everyone decide about their matters their kids and stop interfering in their lives 🥱 why she expects everyone to understand her why she cannot understand others sometimes ?

i am so proud of my Jagya🤗He is so mature so sensible person 👏 The best character in BV right now ⭐️Yesterday his all points are valid and he was not agreeing to Anandi ji's Point of view This all is misleading serial facts He presented his point of view

Ganga poor thing Yesterday i felt so bad for her😭 No one can forget how much that monster Ratan has tortured her and how many times he tried to take away Mannu from her The way she emotionally hugged Mannu yesterday and asked him not to go anywhere and come back home it made me so emotional 😭

That flashback still remember that 🤬 Ratan was planning to kill Ganga How she emotionally hugged Mannu ,hold him tight to her He will separate her from her son She ran away from home That devil caught her and beat her with iron rod brutally and left her to die their and she was crawling calling to Mannu

i as a viewer cannot forget all this I don't expect Ganga to forget all this either who has faced all this

I have no sympathy for this Ratan at all even if he dies without meeting Mannu because this is same man who made Ganga and Jagya beg for Mannu's life and he was laughing and enjoying his son's pain and suffering because it was giving him pleasure of taking revenge from Jagya and ganga He said to Jagya Mannu 's death will be best punishment and my best revenge on you 🤬Now he is dying to meet same son It will be huge of favor of Jagya and Ganga done on him to make Mannu even call Ratan his father and do his last rites otherwise Mannu will not even spit on this monster's face

Edited by Hina- - 8 years ago

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