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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 9:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mr.ass

so basically birdie, you're saying the next deve gowda is kejriwal?

but dude, didnt u just say it yourself?

theres a huge amt of parties pandering to the lower classes! mega vote split! and we have a popular capitalist leader. this isnt like the vp singh era where bjp itself was a socialist party. they are better established now.. so i think we will have bjp getting close to 240 all thanks to AAP! aap doesnt steal bjp's votes much.. and LS segment wise, bjp got 5 out of 7 LS seats!

This!!

@Mr Bird, 

The Cong or anti-BJP vote base, was never going to vote for Modi , any which way. AAP is catering to this section , it is probably weeding out SP/BSP/Cong votes. Hence I don't see them as a major threat to Modi. With AAP's proliferation, Cong seat share has reduced, even NCP is loosing the ground. No where on face AAP is threatening NDA's number.
Even if their campaign is more centered against him, they are basically trying to replace Cong or make a major dent to it. 

BJP lost Delhi elections because of their own strategy, if you look at the figures their vote share increased. But their last minute Leadership problem and their appliancewith Akali Dal resulted in loss in assured seats. For a party which had no chance in Delhi for the last 15 years, they became too complacent to run the extra mile. Simple, AAP broke the Cong base, the economically backward vote. 

Modi won't let this happen, he is too smart. he has kept the NDA very basic right now, with that structure , if he can mange 240 ( with BJP getting 210-220). He has a good shot of forming a govt. without too many coalition partners. Jaya in TN , BJD or even Mamta will bring him home. 

I won't take these election trackers seriously now, we are still too far from LS polls. 

Now for your other point. I have no problem with AAP representing the so called lower economic class, they have an equal right to be represented. Rather it will create an interesting dynamic in the Parliament where economic policies will differentiate BJP and AAP.

On Subsidiary, Mr Bird, don't read too much in their Delhi plan. AAP did exactly what BJP promised as well. But I hear you, they do tend to sound more "left" right now and that is not because they are being socialists but for a need to have a different narration to Modi.  I would see their economic talk, if they were in power in some other state where they had full control to manage the financial situation like say Haryana or UP. 

I detest reservation policy, but reserving seats for Delhi students actually is not different from what every other state is doing. This quota in education institutes needs to be addressed at a national level and should be echoed with one voice. The states should not interfere, hope Mr Modi does something about it.

@Mr A - NDA currently has- Shiv Sena, Akali Dal, C. Naidu and who else?




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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:21am | IP Logged
Kejriwal: "Khap panchayats reflect a part of our traditions. Constitution should understand our traditions too".

Da. Fukk. Wacko

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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:29am | IP Logged
@charming:

first off, i think bjp lost only 3% of its voteshare, but cong and bsp lost about half of their vote share, and bjp won in 5 LS constituencies! yet it got 8 seats more than last election.

the anti modi vote will be split massively. 28% for modi vs 23% for congress will now be 26% for modi, 13% for congress and 10% for aap. imagine how much modi will get!! probably 90% of the seats where all 3 contest.. and in up bihar bjp will DOMINATE!

no, chandrababu is probably going to join but no confirmation.

vaiko's mdmk has already joined. sangma is a part of the nda, so is bishnoi in haryana. also pmk is going to join soon, so is vijaykanth's dmdk...

bjp will end up  getting 230. akali 7, shiv sena 14, bishnoi 1, sangma 1, tamil nadu allies abt 7. so 260. now chandrababu will give abt 8 seats, north eastern parties and independents will give abt 14... so well above 272! and jaya is definitely going to join post poll, because a dmdk member told me in a friends wedding. even if bjp gets only 220. jaya and naveen too will probably give outside support.

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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:30am | IP Logged
Originally posted by krystal_watz

Kejriwal: "Khap panchayats reflect a part of our traditions. Constitution should understand our traditions too".

Da. Fukk. Wacko


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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:34am | IP Logged
Originally posted by krystal_watz

Kejriwal: "Khap panchayats reflect a part of our traditions. Constitution should understand our traditions too".

Da. Fukk. Wacko

Haryana Polls, Pretty blah statement. But he is trying to cater the massy votes! 

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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:39am | IP Logged
Jaya and BJP will support Modi, they will gain more ground. Naveen is one of my fav CM ever. 272 is very achievable.  Bihar, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, UP, Gujarat and MP are all big states voting for BJP . There is no way they will under-perform or let AAP have any inroads their . 
See  AAP is basically under cutting Cong votes and the so called minority parties like SP and BSP. I can live with that. 

Biggest loss is for Nitish Kumar, the man was projected as the 3rd alternative, sadly this AAP wave has made him invisible. He might regret moving out of NDA.

Another, heard AK made some announcement about corrupt leaders, Rahul got a shout out and Modi was left out. I say they might do a pole vault and support BJP post the elections. 
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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:46am | IP Logged
Originally posted by charminggenie

Originally posted by krystal_watz

Kejriwal: "Khap panchayats reflect a part of our traditions. Constitution should understand our traditions too".

Da. Fukk. Wacko


Haryana Polls, Pretty blah statement. But he is trying to cater the massy votes!



He's really going haywire. Till now, he was targeting mainly the urban and youth populations. Never uttered a word about caste, Dalits or rural welfare. Now he's suddenly desperate to grab that one. Not good at all...AAP looks all set to fizz out.

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Posted: 31 January 2014 at 10:56am | IP Logged
@Krystal 
He did a stunt in Delhi too when he visited the Muslim clergy. 

I feel he is sacrificing his social media  credibility and class base for a wider  massy voter base. Haryana is his best bet, and there Khaps do influence a lot, especially the rural and farmer vote. This can either backfire or work in his favor. 


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