Arvind Kejriwal and AAP - Page 8

@Genie

I know that police officers are corrupt. There are many ordinary employees in government posts that do harass other ordinary people demanding bribes for processing simple paperwork. Police officers are even known to harass innocent civilians threatening arrest/legal action if bribes are not paid. There are various reasons for this systematic corruption in many levels. While corruption should be investigated, punished and eradicated, I maintain that the employee is still an ordinary person whose rights and privileges must be protected.

I agree that cops should be held accountable for their duties. If there are reasonable and serious doubts on a cops integrity there should be thorough investigation. Unfortunately, AAP didn't conduct themselves in the right manner. They demanded retribution for failure of cops to comply with the law ministers illegal raid. It came off as stubborn and petulant retaliation rather than a sincere effort to punish corruption in the force.

I was unaware that the constitution demanded suspension of those under investigation. Seems counter intuitive to innocent until proven guilty. Strips protection in case of false charges. If that is the law though, it should be followed. However, the investigation should be over reasonable doubts over integrity not failure to comply with the whims of a law minister.

Refusal to comply with an illegal raid should never have been the trigger to seek action. The proper thing to do would have been to present reasonable doubt and demand suspension pending investigation. AAP's intent indeed maybe more noble and genuine. Their actions maybe solely to target corruption. But ends don't justify the means. Political bullying is political bullying no matter which party does it for whatever reason. If AAP wants to preserve credibility and goodwill they should end these risqu measures that come off as stubbornness, anarchism and bullying.

It is wrong whenever a person in power suspends people on their whims. People should have objected to Shinde's suspensions too. But just because Shinde wasn't protested doesn't mean people should keep mum now. People probably didn't expect integrity from him, but they do from AAP because AAP promised integrity.

I'm not saying throw the rulebook. But have everyone adhere to the rulebook civilians, cops, politicians and even AAP.

@Genie

My biggest skepticism of the AAP was their ability to legislate. The party is made up of many accomplished intelligent people. They are great social activists and campaigners. However, the question remains - can good activists make capable legislators?

I don't expect AAP to make any big dents or changes. I don't expect them to change Delhi overnight. I am impressed at some of the few things they accomplished like curbing the tanker mafia. I didn't expect them to do it as soon as they did. My actual expectations are simple. Simply be a party of integrity and focus on governing. Think before acting and speaking. Most importantly don't do anything of questionable legality no matter what the rationale. It is high time they stopped acting like activists and became good legislators. It is natural for people to be disheartened of the party just keeps doing tamasha.

Originally posted by: charminggenie

@Mr A - Vote share is always so confusing , well atleast for me. Lets  talk about the numbers. I feel anything around 200 for BJP would be a good position. It has Shiv Sena, maybe AIADMK, Akalis , Chandra Babu, maybe even BJD. They can sail through the vote of thanks easily and without needing MAmta or anyone else. 

Doubt SP will get many seats , BSP might  - gain few. CPI/CPM  ( West Bengal, Kerela )- 40 odd number.

Originally posted by: mr.ass

look, bjp can get about 190 seats by sleeping. but wait for the REAL campaign to take off. even in karnataka, orissa, punjab,tamil nadu  he will do well.

with a proper modi for pm campaign, he will get about 210 seats.

akali and sena will give them abt 22, jaya and chandrababu can give then abt 35.. and they can manage a few more here and there.

with aap cutting the socialist, "secular" and minority vote,  bjp can gain an extra 20 - 30 seats, so 230 to 240 is possible. then even with existing allies the nda can get absolute majority.

if the modi wave is overrated, then bjp can get only 170 seats, max 180.

but if it is underrrated, then bjp can by itself get 272+ !!

Originally posted by: mr.ass

look, bjp can get about 190 seats by sleeping. but wait for the REAL campaign to take off. even in karnataka, orissa, punjab,tamil nadu  he will do well.

Orissa has a strong BJD - doubt BJP can make a big dent. Karnataka - lets see which way the Yedurappa factor takes them. Punjab was always BJP-Akali. TN- Jaya Amma

with a proper modi for pm campaign, he will get about 210 seats. Very Likely

akali and sena will give them abt 22, jaya and chandrababu can give then abt 35.. and they can manage a few more here and there.

with aap cutting the socialist, "secular" and minority vote,  bjp can gain an extra 20 - 30 seats, so 230 to 240 is possible. then even with existing allies the nda can get absolute majority.

if the modi wave is overrated, then bjp can get only 170 seats, max 180. - safe number, still respectable.

but if it is underrrated, then bjp can by itself get 272+ ! thats an unlikely number, too many regional players at work