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Incredible post! I must admit this post by you stands out with the remarkable posts I've come across so far. Eye opening post indeed! 😊Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yudhishthirastands for duty and righteousness. He is also known as Dharmaraja, and he is the son of the godDharma.His character unveiling in the 'Great Epic' is slow but steady!Just like the chakras of body right from Mooladhara begin with a 4 petal lotus but end with a 1000 petal lotus his identity becomes strong and powerful in the later parvas.So was the effect absent in the beginning!?No!It was present all the time and everywhere but can be sensed only if the seeker is focussed in right angles.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yudhishtira is often referred to as 'Ajatasatru', one who has no enemies.His other name 'Tyaga' (Unloving to wordly things).These names have to play a key role in interpreting his actions during the dice game.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Now please tell me can a person who can never keep enemity with anyone outside think of rivalry with his own relations!???From where do competition and opposition arise!???How do these 'yours' and 'mine' occur!???</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Whom can you give everything you possess?Ofcourse the one you consider your 'own'!Yuddhishtir considered all the Kauravas,their elders & relations his own,was this his fault!????How can this trait be 'Adharma'!???</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Many members critisised him saying 'Yuddhishtir staked everything including his brothers and wife as a commodity' to this I'll say,definitionsmay differ, people's thoughts may benarrow while interpreting, but the truth remains unchanged and only the right view can lead you to the real.</font><font color="#444444" size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Suppose you had to play dice with your own parents and siblings at your home.What do you do!?How do you react!?Just think for a moment!</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yuddhishtir staked his wealth...because he believed that his wealth is his brothers also.Who can say all this is ours!?</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yuddhistir staked his Kingdom...a king's subjects will bear the same recognition (as People- Praja)for his wife,brothers and children.So does pawning them make any difference!?</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yuddhishtir staked his Pandava Brothers...because he knew that his siblings were brothers of Kauravas also.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yuddhishtir staked his wife...wasn't she related to Kauravas!?As said by Shri Ram a elder brother's wife is deemed to be a mother and the younger brother's wife is like a daughter.(posted in detail by Cool-n-Fresh)Yuddhshtir didn't stake her as a 'commodity'.He very well knew that his wife was like a mother to Kauravas so by staking her neither she becomes their slave nor her relationship with him gets abolished.</font><font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">But they!?Insulted their mother by dragging her and pulling her cloth!!What name can be given to such...!!!It was a 'big shame' on their part!</font><font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Being Dharma Yuddhishtir very well knew what belongs to him belongs to them and what belongs to them is his.<font color="#ff0000">Howcan someone establish such a relation unless he/she is a true companion!?</font>I salute to this attribute of Yuddhishtir!</font><font size="2" face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">The second one is 'Tyaga'.</font><font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2">Yuddhishtir by this act teaches us that wealth and prosperity are transient and the body is subject to decay and death.Knowing this, he did his duty, leaving all attachment to the things of this world and next.</font>
Originally posted by: mythili2
👏This is just awesome analysis of yudhistir's character...never thought in this way..thank you..I wont say I started liking him bt definitely my dislike fr him fr the dice game episode reduced..I just hav a small doubt y ws he describing the jewels n servants etc b4 staking them? Does it not mean boasting abt his wealth? Sry m not saying he boasted or something bt it s really my genuine doubt..hw shud v interprit that was it that he just got carried away in the game or something ? Someone plz do explain.. :)
Originally posted by: SRUJAconsciencePlease tell me what makes a person boast!?...a possession, an object that remains under his hold.But who can brag of things he/she is going to lose or give up!?
Yuddhishtir was fully aware of Shakuni's unfair methods and his crooked ways to produce a win before he started to Hastinapur(conversation with Vidura) and he noticed it during the first stake itself.But you observed him describing the jewels,elephants,servants,soldiers...and he was ready to give them away!How!?++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Another viewPerhaps Yuddhishtir didn't give such an extensive description.Reason he was tyaga - unloving to worldly things.Do you think he would have spared a second for observing all that material!?But how did all these accounts arise?I'll take Ved Vyas' name.Why did he do so?He wanted the seekers to learn that there lived Mahatmas who were ready to give up such 'great alluring wealth'.
Originally posted by: SRUJAconscience
Yudhishthira stands for duty and righteousness. He is also known as Dharmaraja, and he is the son of the god Dharma.His character unveiling in the 'Great Epic' is slow but steady!Just like the chakras of body right from Mooladhara begin with a 4 petal lotus but end with a 1000 petal lotus his identity becomes strong and powerful in the later parvas.So was the effect absent in the beginning!?No!It was present all the time and everywhere but can be sensed only if the seeker is focussed in right angles.Yudhishtira is often referred to as 'Ajatasatru', one who has no enemies.His other name 'Tyaga' (Unloving to wordly things).These names have to play a key role in interpreting his actions during the dice game.Now please tell me can a person who can never keep enemity with anyone outside think of rivalry with his own relations!???From where do competition and opposition arise!???How do these 'yours' and 'mine' occur!???Whom can you give everything you possess?Ofcourse the one you consider your 'own'!Yuddhishtir considered all the Kauravas,their elders & relations his own,was this his fault!????How can this trait be 'Adharma'!???Many members critisised him saying 'Yuddhishtir staked everything including his brothers and wife as a commodity' to this I'll say, definitions may differ, people's thoughts may be narrow while interpreting, but the truth remains unchanged and only the right view can lead you to the real.Suppose you had to play dice with your own parents and siblings at your home.What do you do!?How do you react!?Just think for a moment!Yuddhishtir staked his wealth...because he believed that his wealth is his brothers also.Who can say all this is ours!?Yuddhistir staked his Kingdom...a king's subjects will bear the same recognition (as People- Praja)for his wife,brothers and children.So does pawning them make any difference!?Yuddhishtir staked his Pandava Brothers...because he knew that his siblings were brothers of Kauravas also.Yuddhishtir staked his wife...wasn't she related to Kauravas!?As said by Shri Ram a elder brother's wife is deemed to be a mother and the younger brother's wife is like a daughter.(posted in detail by Cool-n-Fresh)Yuddhshtir didn't stake her as a 'commodity'.He very well knew that his wife was like a mother to Kauravas so by staking her neither she becomes their slave nor her relationship with him gets abolished.But they!?Insulted their mother by dragging her and pulling her cloth!!What name can be given to such...!!!It was a 'big shame' on their part!Being Dharma Yuddhishtir very well knew what belongs to him belongs to them and what belongs to them is his.How can someone establish such a relation unless he/she is a true companion!?I salute to this attribute of Yuddhishtir!The second one is 'Tyaga'.Yuddhishtir by this act teaches us that wealth and prosperity are transient and the body is subject to decay and death.Knowing this, he did his duty, leaving all attachment to the things of this world and next.
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Originally posted by: SRUJAconscienceSRUJAconscienceWhom can you give everything you possess? Ofcourse the one you consider your 'own'! Yuddhishtir considered all the Kauravas,their elders & relations his own,was this his fault!???? How can this trait be 'Adharma'!??? Suppose you had to play dice with your own parents and siblings at your home.What do you do!?How do you react!?Just think for a moment!
< >The second one is 'Tyaga'. Yuddhishtir by this act teaches us that wealth and prosperity are transient and the body is subject to decay and death.Knowing this, he did his duty, leaving all attachment to the things of this world and next.
Like anyonelse I am much glad to see these explanations that you have given to have a look at Yudishtar from a different angle and it was a pleasure to read.. He is indeed Dharmaraja I have no objection in accepting. However I disagree with you because this extremely contradicts what I read in the text.
We discussed in the same thread with citations from the Bakasura episode that Yudishtar never thought of being a Tyagi. He did want to take back the Kingdom and wealth of Duryodhan for which he depended on Bhima. So he being a Tyagi is ruled out completely from what I read from there.
Saying that he considered this purely as a leisure time play with the ones he considered brothers and family members might seem appealing, emotional and applaud-able if we are talking about a novel written on him.. But this view of him is absolutely not acceptable and contradicts the text again.
This might sound unbelievable but this is the fact straight from the horses mouth not the POV of anyone else. Check the citation below. Yudishtar decided to play the game with the motive of winning Duryodhan's kingdom. The same motive that the adharmic Duryodhan had. If Dharmaraja also wished this then I could only say Duryodhan was equally dharmic in desiring Yudhishtar's kingdom. IMO, had Yudishtar won, things would have been a little better i.e the last part of the dice hall episode might have not happened.
Having said these, I repeat that these are not complaints I have against him. These are very much his attributes that I can very well accept from a Dharmic King. The ever annoying and weak image of Yudishtar that I used to have is no more. Hope this helps
[quote] Vanaparva SECTION XXXIV
Vaisampayana said, "Thus addressed by Bhimasena, the high-souled king Ajatasatru firmly devoted to truth, mustering his patience, after a few moments said these words, 'No doubt, O Bharata, all this is true. I cannot reproach thee for thy torturing me thus by piercing me with thy arrowy words. From my folly alone hath this calamity come against you. I sought to cast the dice desiring to snatch from Dhritarashtra's son his kingdom with the sovereignty. It was therefore that, that cunning gambler--Suvala's son--played against me on behalf of Suyodhana. Sakuni, a native of the hilly country, is exceedingly artful. Casting the dice in the presence of the assembly, unacquainted as I am with artifices of any kind, he vanquished me artfully."[/quote]
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