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Posted: 19 November 2013 at 12:00am | IP Logged
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mansi Thumbs Up...
 
Bakshi banu we need to see how the story unfold... too much mystery... Ouch
 
 
ur right abt the leads being tired... In fact when Jalal knew that Jodha was not pregnant, he should have shown happy but I did not get the expression. Jodha was total blank most of the time n not only Jodha looking at her I wanted to fall asleep too...
 
I only have one complain, why show Jalal kissing Salima. I know shes his wife but I totally cannot accept it... n yes can we have some romance in the show plz... its a love story n not documentary...
 
Salima was the star of yday episode n she was energetic, BUt she does not deserve the KISS ...bas LOL...
 
But that 16th century so called doc deserve that push...LOL
 
n yeah blue vomit, cvs are really great Shocked
 
 
 
 
 
 
Riyya, I knew that you will mention the kiss! Unfortunately, he is kissing everybody else now except Jodha! Ouch
 
Guys, he has not promised his other Begums about not touching them, so he is free to kiss them and they will not say, Shehahnsha, you broke your promise, I hate you for kissing me...
May be while kissing Salima Begum,  he would have virtually kissed Jodha for not having an affair nd being fair to him.
 
Okay, I will also console myself that when he was kissing Salima he was actually in his mind kissing Jodha!Confused
nahi LOL 
kyu? you want him to think of you?WinkWinkWink,
 
yaar as of now, even without doing anything, Jodha is cutting him slacks and you want him to add a kiss to the missery? Wait for some more time, when Jodha will become impatient of him not touching and literally ask for it. Since this pregnancy news spread like wild fire, she had antcipated, thought of him tocing in various ways and when she really comes to know that he didn't do any such thing, it will disappoint her. So she will get frutrated of him keeping distance with her might ask him for that...
no yaar I really cant accept him virtually kissing jodha , while kissing salima begum... kabhi nahi LOL...
 
yaar I have lost all hope I think im watching documentary not love story Ouch...
 
Enough is enough LOL ...
 
Jodha to Jalal: why u did not touch me when u could have. Im still Ghrina with you.
 
Jalal : Shocked
 
Viewers: Angry
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Posted: 19 November 2013 at 12:05am | IP Logged
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My God, Jaya, your post have given so many new directions to think about! Wow!
 
Please think in all directions so that whatever the CVs give us next, will not stun us like a surprise.LOLLOLLOL
 
Dear Mansi,
 
No, Mansi, it is not only elves & Goblins & booths vomit Green but even human vomit it when they are severely ill with high efever & food poisoning. So give thta much scope to them, if not for BLUE VOMIT. May be it is true that with the effect of that herb (see we dont use any herbs as medice, hence are ignorant of its visual effectWinkWink).
 
I just read that people do vomit Blue in colour may be due to Boric Acid food poisoning or due to copper poisoning. So let us give some trust to our CVs for this blue colour vomit. (though I could not check whether an unpregnant woman will puke blue)
 
Actually my sister was saying that some herbs do produce a bluish kind of effect on the food, but still blue puke was totally new to me as a concept!
 
Green I had seen, but Blue heard that long back from one of my uncle who was talking about effects of having stale mushrooms (not the ones which were harvested but the natural ones which has a life span of just one day fro the time they surface... You believe it or not, from that day, I just avoid Mushroom.
 
It was true the star of the day or those 4 hours after administering the herb to Jodha till she vomits Blue colour liquid was SALIMA BEGUM. She managed everything & everyone splendidly. Teh way she stopped Maham's waords mid way was mind blowing. She just used Jalal's name to stop Maham from further enquiries as well as her stand for not revealing the reason's for the change of inchrge of teh kitchen. here she really showed her that she is a royal by birth and not just due to her relation with the emperor. She didn't say, she will prepare everything that Jodha eats but she said she will watch with eagle eye while they prepare food for Jodha but also taste it before Jodha eats. Here she kept her position as well as Jodha's position high. Infact she ensured that  Jodha is the queen and the procedures about the food submission to be in line wit the emperor (taste it before serving). 
 
 
Salima was atrue manager in every sense of the word. As you say she handled the authority and delegation roles also superbly! Where needed she worked directly herself (as with confidential stuff) and where needed she supervised. But the way Maham got it from her was WONDERFUL!!!
 
For me the catch point while Maham ordering food or Jodha was Gulab ki Sharbath...why do I feel there is something (grave detail) hidden in that Sharbat? Jodha was made to srink the Gulab Sharabat before she passed out during the celebration, Jalal made Ruqaiya drink Gulab ki sharabat while cooling her anger,... is this the way, Maham was administering some medicine to all Jalal's Begum's to stop them from conceiveing??????? NO idea but will think it again later.
 
 
Hmmm ... Gulab Ki Sherbet is the Mughal Sultanate's anti-pregnancy dose???
 
What else?, normally it is teh lime juice which will be advised for tired or pregnant ladies to regain strength but in  Mughal Sultanate, they consume Gulab ki Sherabet... so any one who wishes to add something, they can easilt do it with this.
 
Now coming to the Hooded woman, she is not working for someone but is working on her own for her own benefits and not because of some threat. But whoever it is, she is aiming @ the mughal Sultanate directly and not just to save someone's head.
 
 
It did certainly look more like Bakshi (or that hooded lady) is working on her own and not for Sharif. I am saying this based on the fact that in the opening scene where Jalal promotes the Kabul Munim, Sharif did not betray any sign of the Bakshi plot ... maybe if he was very clever he wouldn't betray this, but still I thought he may have given at least a few telltale signs if he was involved in the Bakshi plot, na?
 
Yeah, till the time I watched yesterday's episode, I was more confident that it was BB and she is on her on will doing all this ( I had written the same on your thread also) and I had even doubted her during Ruqaiya's MC track. But after watching yesterday's some how, I am not that confident as it could be Bakshi bhanu. May be benefit of doubt...Wink
 
 
If it is Bhaksha Banu, it is evident that being te emperor's daughter she will be the next in line for the throne, had something happens to Jalal and without an heir. She is now aware of teh fact that Jodha will the the thorn in her way to the throne, so she will try and eliminate her even before she gains Jalal's confidance. What would be a better way than to defame her in the eyes of Jalal?
 
But after watching that lady in yesterday's episode, somehow, my mind doesn't believe that it could be Bhakshi Bhanu...my few reasons for that are
1. She looked taller than BB
2. During her self talk she mentioned it as "Jodha Begum" but not as mere Jodha or Jodha bhabi ------------ Normally it is an habit and human nature that when we tak up someone's name in our mind, we take it as we address them during our conversations.
3. If she had known that the herbs are to be collected seperately with different reasons (that was what she thought), she would not have gone to the Hakim and ask for all the 4 items together that too with so much confidance & arrogance. Instead, she would have gone to 4 different hakim's and collected those herbs than one person, that too the one who diagonized Jodha's pregnancy. Added to that, she would not have just tried to grab that bottle from the hakim (as if that was the herb, she was looking for)
4. Sending the soldiers to take care of teh hakim no sooner than she reached the palace, is nt something which could be done by Bhaksh Bhanu as she can't order the soldiers (she doesn't hav that capacity, or teh position for that)
5. Most importantly, the room she used for mixing the medicine, looked like the one in which Jodha was blessed with the first rays of Sun. So I don't think BB will have access to that...
6. Even if she get rid of Jodha, there is guaranty for any other Begum not giving an heir to Jalal (he will not take sanyasa because of Jodha's back stabbing), so it is not possib;e for her to get rid of all his Begums and claim the throne.
7. The Hakim's word about that lady might even try to attack Salima begum with her ark. When BB is not even aware of the Salima being a threat, why will she aim @ Salima Begum?
 
Ok, i will reveal my doubt about the probable criminal, later... You just need to wait for some time.
 
 
This is a very interesting theory and one that we have all not discussed before. So let's see, if not Bakshi then who? You already know?
 
I have my own doubts but hope even you may reach there in no time.
 
Coming Jalal-Jodha relationship, amy be after Salima begum's advise, Jodha woul dhave thought, Ok, let me not strain my head more on this never ending topic, that is JALAL, who is unpredictable. Let me with the current rather than swimming against it and tire myself, as the shore is not to be seen...
Did he not put the idea to Jodha's mind about leaving Agra?????????????? he did mention that so long you are in Agra, you ahve to possess this and this will be in your safe guard. Why did he mention that she had to keep it safe? What was the significance for that?
What danger it will bring on Jodha or Jalal, if by chance she loses that ring?
 
 
I am waiting for the Jodha-Jalal scene today. I want to see how they tell each other the truth, apologise for accusations and make up the gap!
 
Even I am eager to see that but I have my own doubts that it will be revealed to Jodha so soon. If it were, Jalal would not have teased her with baby names...
 
Now after Jodha is releieved of the virtul baby, they (Jalal & Salima) might just send her to Amer in pretext of staying with her own mother during pregnancy without revealing the fact that Jodha is not pregnant in public, so that they can try to catch the culprit redhanded. I am not even sure whether JOdha will be informed about her passing the virginity test or will they withheld that news from her for securiry reasonsWinkWinkWink
 
 
Jaya, I don't think Jalal will send Jodha to Amer. In fact I think both of them will work together with Salima on this. In fact I am wondering where Ruq will be in all this? Ruq may get sidelined!
 
I think it is really necessary to send Jodha to Amer, away from Agra to catch the culprit offguard. The culprit has to believ that Jalal is still suspects Jodha about her infidility and thus has sent her away fom Agra and the chances of her return are feeble or close to nil.  Only then the criminal will divert her attention from Jodha. They might  pretend that even Salima Begum is pregnant (she had already threw up a lot since morning due to that adultrated milk tasting and she might keep up the act for some more time, and watch arround with complete attention. Whoever may be the one who tried to damage Jodha's image for their own benefit will not sit quiet when they come to know that Salima Begum will become a maa and will give teh heir to Mughal Sultanate. So she will for sure act fast and in haste, which might reveal her identity ( I am really not sure, they will catch the real culprit yet)
 
 
Jaya, if you don't tell me your suspect's name, my head will explode!!!!!OuchOuchOuchOuchOuch Can it be Javeeda since she was sitting next to Jodha exactly at the time for vomiting?
LOLLOLLOLLOL Not so soon dear, what are we going to do without you on the forum?.
Yes, one of my suspect is Javeeda, she came to check about Jodha's health aspect but didn't mention anything about the rumors in the Harem, which is not her strength to hide things if not intentionally.WinkWinkWink
 
Yes, but what about the Tatasky spoiler that Bakshi is the culprit? This Tatasky NEVER lies! I can guarantee that as I have seen for nearly 6-7 years they have not got a single spoiler wrong!
But Mansi, they could be the intentional spoilers from the PH to divert our attention and give us a banging surprise with someone else. If it is true that BB is the culprit and Jalal comes to know about it, do you think he will parden her and let go the matter since she is his sister? NO chance. So whether it is BB or Hb or MA ofr Javeeda or Ruqaiya or any of his other begums or Ruqaiya's aunt... he will not spare them for their act. hence i strongly believe that they will not get hold of the real culprit.

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Posted: 19 November 2013 at 12:07am | IP Logged
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[QUOTE=skanda12]
 
My God, Jaya, your post have given so many new directions to think about! Wow!
 
Please think in all directions so that whatever the CVs give us next, will not stun us like a surprise.LOLLOLLOL
 
Dear Mansi,
 
No, Mansi, it is not only elves & Goblins & booths vomit Green but even human vomit it when they are severely ill with high efever & food poisoning. So give thta much scope to them, if not for BLUE VOMIT. May be it is true that with the effect of that herb (see we dont use any herbs as medice, hence are ignorant of its visual effectWinkWink).
 
I just read that people do vomit Blue in colour may be due to Boric Acid food poisoning or due to copper poisoning. So let us give some trust to our CVs for this blue colour vomit. (though I could not check whether an unpregnant woman will puke blue)
 
Actually my sister was saying that some herbs do produce a bluish kind of effect on the food, but still blue puke was totally new to me as a concept!
 
Green I had seen, but Blue heard that long back from one of my uncle who was talking about effects of having stale mushrooms (not the ones which were harvested but the natural ones which has a life span of just one day fro the time they surface... You believe it or not, from that day, I just avoid Mushroom.
 
It was true the star of the day or those 4 hours after administering the herb to Jodha till she vomits Blue colour liquid was SALIMA BEGUM. She managed everything & everyone splendidly. Teh way she stopped Maham's waords mid way was mind blowing. She just used Jalal's name to stop Maham from further enquiries as well as her stand for not revealing the reason's for the change of inchrge of teh kitchen. here she really showed her that she is a royal by birth and not just due to her relation with the emperor. She didn't say, she will prepare everything that Jodha eats but she said she will watch with eagle eye while they prepare food for Jodha but also taste it before Jodha eats. Here she kept her position as well as Jodha's position high. Infact she ensured that  Jodha is the queen and the procedures about the food submission to be in line wit the emperor (taste it before serving). 
 
 
Salima was atrue manager in every sense of the word. As you say she handled the authority and delegation roles also superbly! Where needed she worked directly herself (as with confidential stuff) and where needed she supervised. But the way Maham got it from her was WONDERFUL!!!
 
For me the catch point while Maham ordering food or Jodha was Gulab ki Sharbath...why do I feel there is something (grave detail) hidden in that Sharbat? Jodha was made to srink the Gulab Sharabat before she passed out during the celebration, Jalal made Ruqaiya drink Gulab ki sharabat while cooling her anger,... is this the way, Maham was administering some medicine to all Jalal's Begum's to stop them from conceiveing??????? NO idea but will think it again later.
 
 
Hmmm ... Gulab Ki Sherbet is the Mughal Sultanate's anti-pregnancy dose???
 
What else?, normally it is teh lime juice which will be advised for tired or pregnant ladies to regain strength but in  Mughal Sultanate, they consume Gulab ki Sherabet... so any one who wishes to add something, they can easilt do it with this.
 
Now coming to the Hooded woman, she is not working for someone but is working on her own for her own benefits and not because of some threat. But whoever it is, she is aiming @ the mughal Sultanate directly and not just to save someone's head.
 
 
It did certainly look more like Bakshi (or that hooded lady) is working on her own and not for Sharif. I am saying this based on the fact that in the opening scene where Jalal promotes the Kabul Munim, Sharif did not betray any sign of the Bakshi plot ... maybe if he was very clever he wouldn't betray this, but still I thought he may have given at least a few telltale signs if he was involved in the Bakshi plot, na?
 
Yeah, till the time I watched yesterday's episode, I was more confident that it was BB and she is on her on will doing all this ( I had written the same on your thread also) and I had even doubted her during Ruqaiya's MC track. But after watching yesterday's some how, I am not that confident as it could be Bakshi bhanu. May be benefit of doubt...Wink
 
 
If it is Bhaksha Banu, it is evident that being te emperor's daughter she will be the next in line for the throne, had something happens to Jalal and without an heir. She is now aware of teh fact that Jodha will the the thorn in her way to the throne, so she will try and eliminate her even before she gains Jalal's confidance. What would be a better way than to defame her in the eyes of Jalal?
 
But after watching that lady in yesterday's episode, somehow, my mind doesn't believe that it could be Bhakshi Bhanu...my few reasons for that are
1. She looked taller than BB
2. During her self talk she mentioned it as "Jodha Begum" but not as mere Jodha or Jodha bhabi ------------ Normally it is an habit and human nature that when we tak up someone's name in our mind, we take it as we address them during our conversations.
3. If she had known that the herbs are to be collected seperately with different reasons (that was what she thought), she would not have gone to the Hakim and ask for all the 4 items together that too with so much confidance & arrogance. Instead, she would have gone to 4 different hakim's and collected those herbs than one person, that too the one who diagonized Jodha's pregnancy. Added to that, she would not have just tried to grab that bottle from the hakim (as if that was the herb, she was looking for)
4. Sending the soldiers to take care of teh hakim no sooner than she reached the palace, is nt something which could be done by Bhaksh Bhanu as she can't order the soldiers (she doesn't hav that capacity, or teh position for that)
5. Most importantly, the room she used for mixing the medicine, looked like the one in which Jodha was blessed with the first rays of Sun. So I don't think BB will have access to that...
6. Even if she get rid of Jodha, there is guaranty for any other Begum not giving an heir to Jalal (he will not take sanyasa because of Jodha's back stabbing), so it is not possib;e for her to get rid of all his Begums and claim the throne.
7. The Hakim's word about that lady might even try to attack Salima begum with her ark. When BB is not even aware of the Salima being a threat, why will she aim @ Salima Begum?
 
Ok, i will reveal my doubt about the probable criminal, later... You just need to wait for some time.
 
 
This is a very interesting theory and one that we have all not discussed before. So let's see, if not Bakshi then who? You already know?
 
I have my own doubts but hope even you may reach there in no time.
 
Coming Jalal-Jodha relationship, amy be after Salima begum's advise, Jodha woul dhave thought, Ok, let me not strain my head more on this never ending topic, that is JALAL, who is unpredictable. Let me with the current rather than swimming against it and tire myself, as the shore is not to be seen...
Did he not put the idea to Jodha's mind about leaving Agra?????????????? he did mention that so long you are in Agra, you ahve to possess this and this will be in your safe guard. Why did he mention that she had to keep it safe? What was the significance for that?
What danger it will bring on Jodha or Jalal, if by chance she loses that ring?
 
 
I am waiting for the Jodha-Jalal scene today. I want to see how they tell each other the truth, apologise for accusations and make up the gap!
 
Even I am eager to see that but I have my own doubts that it will be revealed to Jodha so soon. If it were, Jalal would not have teased her with baby names...
 
Now after Jodha is releieved of the virtul baby, they (Jalal & Salima) might just send her to Amer in pretext of staying with her own mother during pregnancy without revealing the fact that Jodha is not pregnant in public, so that they can try to catch the culprit redhanded. I am not even sure whether JOdha will be informed about her passing the virginity test or will they withheld that news from her for securiry reasonsWinkWinkWink
 
 
Jaya, I don't think Jalal will send Jodha to Amer. In fact I think both of them will work together with Salima on this. In fact I am wondering where Ruq will be in all this? Ruq may get sidelined!
 
I think it is really necessary to send Jodha to Amer, away from Agra to catch the culprit offguard. The culprit has to believ that Jalal is still suspects Jodha about her infidility and thus has sent her away fom Agra and the chances of her return are feeble or close to nil.  Only then the criminal will divert her attention from Jodha. They might  pretend that even Salima Begum is pregnant (she had already threw up a lot since morning due to that adultrated milk tasting and she might keep up the act for some more time, and watch arround with complete attention. Whoever may be the one who tried to damage Jodha's image for their own benefit will not sit quiet when they come to know that Salima Begum will become a maa and will give teh heir to Mughal Sultanate. So she will for sure act fast and in haste, which might reveal her identity ( I am really not sure, they will catch the real culprit yet)
 
 
Jaya, if you don't tell me your suspect's name, my head will explode!!!!!OuchOuchOuchOuchOuch Can it be Javeeda since she was sitting next to Jodha exactly at the time for vomiting?
LOLLOLLOLLOL Not so soon dear, what are we going to do without you on the forum?.
Yes, one of my suspect is Javeeda, she came to check about Jodha's health aspect but didn't mention anything about the rumors in the Harem, which is not her strength to hide things if not intentionally.WinkWinkWink
 
Yes, but what about the Tatasky spoiler that Bakshi is the culprit? This Tatasky NEVER lies! I can guarantee that as I have seen for nearly 6-7 years they have not got a single spoiler wrong!
But Mansi, they could be the intentional spoilers from the PH to divert our attention and give us a banging surprise with someone else. If it is true that BB is the culprit and Jalal comes to know about it, do you think he will parden her and let go the matter since she is his sister? NO chance. So whether it is BB or Hb or MA ofr Javeeda or Ruqaiya or any of his other begums or Ruqaiya's aunt... he will not spare them for their act. hence i strongly believe that they will not get hold of the real culprit.
sorry to butt in but tatasky as mansi said hardly got any spoiler wrong so far even mohan one was right even though there was a delay Embarrassed
 
even if its BB she will be pardon im sure, its either jalal will forgive her or Jodha will say to forgive her ...Confused

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[QUOTE=skanda12]
 
My God, Jaya, your post have given so many new directions to think about! Wow!
 
Please think in all directions so that whatever the CVs give us next, will not stun us like a surprise.LOLLOLLOL
 
Dear Mansi,
 
No, Mansi, it is not only elves & Goblins & booths vomit Green but even human vomit it when they are severely ill with high efever & food poisoning. So give thta much scope to them, if not for BLUE VOMIT. May be it is true that with the effect of that herb (see we dont use any herbs as medice, hence are ignorant of its visual effectWinkWink).
 
I just read that people do vomit Blue in colour may be due to Boric Acid food poisoning or due to copper poisoning. So let us give some trust to our CVs for this blue colour vomit. (though I could not check whether an unpregnant woman will puke blue)
 
Actually my sister was saying that some herbs do produce a bluish kind of effect on the food, but still blue puke was totally new to me as a concept!
 
Green I had seen, but Blue heard that long back from one of my uncle who was talking about effects of having stale mushrooms (not the ones which were harvested but the natural ones which has a life span of just one day fro the time they surface... You believe it or not, from that day, I just avoid Mushroom.
 
It was true the star of the day or those 4 hours after administering the herb to Jodha till she vomits Blue colour liquid was SALIMA BEGUM. She managed everything & everyone splendidly. Teh way she stopped Maham's waords mid way was mind blowing. She just used Jalal's name to stop Maham from further enquiries as well as her stand for not revealing the reason's for the change of inchrge of teh kitchen. here she really showed her that she is a royal by birth and not just due to her relation with the emperor. She didn't say, she will prepare everything that Jodha eats but she said she will watch with eagle eye while they prepare food for Jodha but also taste it before Jodha eats. Here she kept her position as well as Jodha's position high. Infact she ensured that  Jodha is the queen and the procedures about the food submission to be in line wit the emperor (taste it before serving). 
 
 
Salima was atrue manager in every sense of the word. As you say she handled the authority and delegation roles also superbly! Where needed she worked directly herself (as with confidential stuff) and where needed she supervised. But the way Maham got it from her was WONDERFUL!!!
 
For me the catch point while Maham ordering food or Jodha was Gulab ki Sharbath...why do I feel there is something (grave detail) hidden in that Sharbat? Jodha was made to srink the Gulab Sharabat before she passed out during the celebration, Jalal made Ruqaiya drink Gulab ki sharabat while cooling her anger,... is this the way, Maham was administering some medicine to all Jalal's Begum's to stop them from conceiveing??????? NO idea but will think it again later.
 
 
Hmmm ... Gulab Ki Sherbet is the Mughal Sultanate's anti-pregnancy dose???
 
What else?, normally it is teh lime juice which will be advised for tired or pregnant ladies to regain strength but in  Mughal Sultanate, they consume Gulab ki Sherabet... so any one who wishes to add something, they can easilt do it with this.
 
Now coming to the Hooded woman, she is not working for someone but is working on her own for her own benefits and not because of some threat. But whoever it is, she is aiming @ the mughal Sultanate directly and not just to save someone's head.
 
 
It did certainly look more like Bakshi (or that hooded lady) is working on her own and not for Sharif. I am saying this based on the fact that in the opening scene where Jalal promotes the Kabul Munim, Sharif did not betray any sign of the Bakshi plot ... maybe if he was very clever he wouldn't betray this, but still I thought he may have given at least a few telltale signs if he was involved in the Bakshi plot, na?
 
Yeah, till the time I watched yesterday's episode, I was more confident that it was BB and she is on her on will doing all this ( I had written the same on your thread also) and I had even doubted her during Ruqaiya's MC track. But after watching yesterday's some how, I am not that confident as it could be Bakshi bhanu. May be benefit of doubt...Wink
 
 
If it is Bhaksha Banu, it is evident that being te emperor's daughter she will be the next in line for the throne, had something happens to Jalal and without an heir. She is now aware of teh fact that Jodha will the the thorn in her way to the throne, so she will try and eliminate her even before she gains Jalal's confidance. What would be a better way than to defame her in the eyes of Jalal?
 
But after watching that lady in yesterday's episode, somehow, my mind doesn't believe that it could be Bhakshi Bhanu...my few reasons for that are
1. She looked taller than BB
2. During her self talk she mentioned it as "Jodha Begum" but not as mere Jodha or Jodha bhabi ------------ Normally it is an habit and human nature that when we tak up someone's name in our mind, we take it as we address them during our conversations.
3. If she had known that the herbs are to be collected seperately with different reasons (that was what she thought), she would not have gone to the Hakim and ask for all the 4 items together that too with so much confidance & arrogance. Instead, she would have gone to 4 different hakim's and collected those herbs than one person, that too the one who diagonized Jodha's pregnancy. Added to that, she would not have just tried to grab that bottle from the hakim (as if that was the herb, she was looking for)
4. Sending the soldiers to take care of teh hakim no sooner than she reached the palace, is nt something which could be done by Bhaksh Bhanu as she can't order the soldiers (she doesn't hav that capacity, or teh position for that)
5. Most importantly, the room she used for mixing the medicine, looked like the one in which Jodha was blessed with the first rays of Sun. So I don't think BB will have access to that...
6. Even if she get rid of Jodha, there is guaranty for any other Begum not giving an heir to Jalal (he will not take sanyasa because of Jodha's back stabbing), so it is not possib;e for her to get rid of all his Begums and claim the throne.
7. The Hakim's word about that lady might even try to attack Salima begum with her ark. When BB is not even aware of the Salima being a threat, why will she aim @ Salima Begum?
 
Ok, i will reveal my doubt about the probable criminal, later... You just need to wait for some time.
 
 
This is a very interesting theory and one that we have all not discussed before. So let's see, if not Bakshi then who? You already know?
 
I have my own doubts but hope even you may reach there in no time.
 
Coming Jalal-Jodha relationship, amy be after Salima begum's advise, Jodha woul dhave thought, Ok, let me not strain my head more on this never ending topic, that is JALAL, who is unpredictable. Let me with the current rather than swimming against it and tire myself, as the shore is not to be seen...
Did he not put the idea to Jodha's mind about leaving Agra?????????????? he did mention that so long you are in Agra, you ahve to possess this and this will be in your safe guard. Why did he mention that she had to keep it safe? What was the significance for that?
What danger it will bring on Jodha or Jalal, if by chance she loses that ring?
 
 
I am waiting for the Jodha-Jalal scene today. I want to see how they tell each other the truth, apologise for accusations and make up the gap!
 
Even I am eager to see that but I have my own doubts that it will be revealed to Jodha so soon. If it were, Jalal would not have teased her with baby names...
 
Now after Jodha is releieved of the virtul baby, they (Jalal & Salima) might just send her to Amer in pretext of staying with her own mother during pregnancy without revealing the fact that Jodha is not pregnant in public, so that they can try to catch the culprit redhanded. I am not even sure whether JOdha will be informed about her passing the virginity test or will they withheld that news from her for securiry reasonsWinkWinkWink
 
 
Jaya, I don't think Jalal will send Jodha to Amer. In fact I think both of them will work together with Salima on this. In fact I am wondering where Ruq will be in all this? Ruq may get sidelined!
 
I think it is really necessary to send Jodha to Amer, away from Agra to catch the culprit offguard. The culprit has to believ that Jalal is still suspects Jodha about her infidility and thus has sent her away fom Agra and the chances of her return are feeble or close to nil.  Only then the criminal will divert her attention from Jodha. They might  pretend that even Salima Begum is pregnant (she had already threw up a lot since morning due to that adultrated milk tasting and she might keep up the act for some more time, and watch arround with complete attention. Whoever may be the one who tried to damage Jodha's image for their own benefit will not sit quiet when they come to know that Salima Begum will become a maa and will give teh heir to Mughal Sultanate. So she will for sure act fast and in haste, which might reveal her identity ( I am really not sure, they will catch the real culprit yet)
 
 
Jaya, if you don't tell me your suspect's name, my head will explode!!!!!Ouch Can it be Javeeda since she was sitting next to Jodha exactly at the time for vomiting?
LOL Not so soon dear, what are we going to do without you on the forum?.
Yes, one of my suspect is Javeeda, she came to check about Jodha's health aspect but didn't mention anything about the rumors in the Harem, which is not her strength to hide things if not intentionally.WinkWinkWink
 
Yes, but what about the Tatasky spoiler that Bakshi is the culprit? This Tatasky NEVER lies! I can guarantee that as I have seen for nearly 6-7 years they have not got a single spoiler wrong!

Mansi, there was no any tata sky spoiler mentioning about BB, I haven't seen one. Even today tata sky shows the same old spoiler which mentions abt cheapuddin and Jalal finding Jodha not pregnant.

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My God, Jaya, your post have given so many new directions to think about! Wow!
 
Please think in all directions so that whatever the CVs give us next, will not stun us like a surprise.LOLLOLLOL
 
Dear Mansi,
 
No, Mansi, it is not only elves & Goblins & booths vomit Green but even human vomit it when they are severely ill with high efever & food poisoning. So give thta much scope to them, if not for BLUE VOMIT. May be it is true that with the effect of that herb (see we dont use any herbs as medice, hence are ignorant of its visual effectWinkWink).
 
I just read that people do vomit Blue in colour may be due to Boric Acid food poisoning or due to copper poisoning. So let us give some trust to our CVs for this blue colour vomit. (though I could not check whether an unpregnant woman will puke blue)
 
Actually my sister was saying that some herbs do produce a bluish kind of effect on the food, but still blue puke was totally new to me as a concept!
 
Green I had seen, but Blue heard that long back from one of my uncle who was talking about effects of having stale mushrooms (not the ones which were harvested but the natural ones which has a life span of just one day fro the time they surface... You believe it or not, from that day, I just avoid Mushroom.
 
It was true the star of the day or those 4 hours after administering the herb to Jodha till she vomits Blue colour liquid was SALIMA BEGUM. She managed everything & everyone splendidly. Teh way she stopped Maham's waords mid way was mind blowing. She just used Jalal's name to stop Maham from further enquiries as well as her stand for not revealing the reason's for the change of inchrge of teh kitchen. here she really showed her that she is a royal by birth and not just due to her relation with the emperor. She didn't say, she will prepare everything that Jodha eats but she said she will watch with eagle eye while they prepare food for Jodha but also taste it before Jodha eats. Here she kept her position as well as Jodha's position high. Infact she ensured that  Jodha is the queen and the procedures about the food submission to be in line wit the emperor (taste it before serving). 
 
 
Salima was atrue manager in every sense of the word. As you say she handled the authority and delegation roles also superbly! Where needed she worked directly herself (as with confidential stuff) and where needed she supervised. But the way Maham got it from her was WONDERFUL!!!
 
For me the catch point while Maham ordering food or Jodha was Gulab ki Sharbath...why do I feel there is something (grave detail) hidden in that Sharbat? Jodha was made to srink the Gulab Sharabat before she passed out during the celebration, Jalal made Ruqaiya drink Gulab ki sharabat while cooling her anger,... is this the way, Maham was administering some medicine to all Jalal's Begum's to stop them from conceiveing??????? NO idea but will think it again later.
 
 
Hmmm ... Gulab Ki Sherbet is the Mughal Sultanate's anti-pregnancy dose???
 
What else?, normally it is teh lime juice which will be advised for tired or pregnant ladies to regain strength but in  Mughal Sultanate, they consume Gulab ki Sherabet... so any one who wishes to add something, they can easilt do it with this.
 
Now coming to the Hooded woman, she is not working for someone but is working on her own for her own benefits and not because of some threat. But whoever it is, she is aiming @ the mughal Sultanate directly and not just to save someone's head.
 
 
It did certainly look more like Bakshi (or that hooded lady) is working on her own and not for Sharif. I am saying this based on the fact that in the opening scene where Jalal promotes the Kabul Munim, Sharif did not betray any sign of the Bakshi plot ... maybe if he was very clever he wouldn't betray this, but still I thought he may have given at least a few telltale signs if he was involved in the Bakshi plot, na?
 
Yeah, till the time I watched yesterday's episode, I was more confident that it was BB and she is on her on will doing all this ( I had written the same on your thread also) and I had even doubted her during Ruqaiya's MC track. But after watching yesterday's some how, I am not that confident as it could be Bakshi bhanu. May be benefit of doubt...Wink
 
 
If it is Bhaksha Banu, it is evident that being te emperor's daughter she will be the next in line for the throne, had something happens to Jalal and without an heir. She is now aware of teh fact that Jodha will the the thorn in her way to the throne, so she will try and eliminate her even before she gains Jalal's confidance. What would be a better way than to defame her in the eyes of Jalal?
 
But after watching that lady in yesterday's episode, somehow, my mind doesn't believe that it could be Bhakshi Bhanu...my few reasons for that are
1. She looked taller than BB
2. During her self talk she mentioned it as "Jodha Begum" but not as mere Jodha or Jodha bhabi ------------ Normally it is an habit and human nature that when we tak up someone's name in our mind, we take it as we address them during our conversations.
3. If she had known that the herbs are to be collected seperately with different reasons (that was what she thought), she would not have gone to the Hakim and ask for all the 4 items together that too with so much confidance & arrogance. Instead, she would have gone to 4 different hakim's and collected those herbs than one person, that too the one who diagonized Jodha's pregnancy. Added to that, she would not have just tried to grab that bottle from the hakim (as if that was the herb, she was looking for)
4. Sending the soldiers to take care of teh hakim no sooner than she reached the palace, is nt something which could be done by Bhaksh Bhanu as she can't order the soldiers (she doesn't hav that capacity, or teh position for that)
5. Most importantly, the room she used for mixing the medicine, looked like the one in which Jodha was blessed with the first rays of Sun. So I don't think BB will have access to that...
6. Even if she get rid of Jodha, there is guaranty for any other Begum not giving an heir to Jalal (he will not take sanyasa because of Jodha's back stabbing), so it is not possib;e for her to get rid of all his Begums and claim the throne.
7. The Hakim's word about that lady might even try to attack Salima begum with her ark. When BB is not even aware of the Salima being a threat, why will she aim @ Salima Begum?
 
Ok, i will reveal my doubt about the probable criminal, later... You just need to wait for some time.
 
 
This is a very interesting theory and one that we have all not discussed before. So let's see, if not Bakshi then who? You already know?
 
I have my own doubts but hope even you may reach there in no time.
 
Coming Jalal-Jodha relationship, amy be after Salima begum's advise, Jodha woul dhave thought, Ok, let me not strain my head more on this never ending topic, that is JALAL, who is unpredictable. Let me with the current rather than swimming against it and tire myself, as the shore is not to be seen...
Did he not put the idea to Jodha's mind about leaving Agra?????????????? he did mention that so long you are in Agra, you ahve to possess this and this will be in your safe guard. Why did he mention that she had to keep it safe? What was the significance for that?
What danger it will bring on Jodha or Jalal, if by chance she loses that ring?
 
 
I am waiting for the Jodha-Jalal scene today. I want to see how they tell each other the truth, apologise for accusations and make up the gap!
 
Even I am eager to see that but I have my own doubts that it will be revealed to Jodha so soon. If it were, Jalal would not have teased her with baby names...
 
Now after Jodha is releieved of the virtul baby, they (Jalal & Salima) might just send her to Amer in pretext of staying with her own mother during pregnancy without revealing the fact that Jodha is not pregnant in public, so that they can try to catch the culprit redhanded. I am not even sure whether JOdha will be informed about her passing the virginity test or will they withheld that news from her for securiry reasonsWinkWinkWink
 
 
Jaya, I don't think Jalal will send Jodha to Amer. In fact I think both of them will work together with Salima on this. In fact I am wondering where Ruq will be in all this? Ruq may get sidelined!
 
I think it is really necessary to send Jodha to Amer, away from Agra to catch the culprit offguard. The culprit has to believ that Jalal is still suspects Jodha about her infidility and thus has sent her away fom Agra and the chances of her return are feeble or close to nil.  Only then the criminal will divert her attention from Jodha. They might  pretend that even Salima Begum is pregnant (she had already threw up a lot since morning due to that adultrated milk tasting and she might keep up the act for some more time, and watch arround with complete attention. Whoever may be the one who tried to damage Jodha's image for their own benefit will not sit quiet when they come to know that Salima Begum will become a maa and will give teh heir to Mughal Sultanate. So she will for sure act fast and in haste, which might reveal her identity ( I am really not sure, they will catch the real culprit yet)
 
 
Jaya, if you don't tell me your suspect's name, my head will explode!!!!!Ouch Can it be Javeeda since she was sitting next to Jodha exactly at the time for vomiting?
LOL Not so soon dear, what are we going to do without you on the forum?.
Yes, one of my suspect is Javeeda, she came to check about Jodha's health aspect but didn't mention anything about the rumors in the Harem, which is not her strength to hide things if not intentionally.WinkWinkWink
 
Yes, but what about the Tatasky spoiler that Bakshi is the culprit? This Tatasky NEVER lies! I can guarantee that as I have seen for nearly 6-7 years they have not got a single spoiler wrong!

Mansi, there was no any tata sky spoiler mentioning about BB, I haven't seen one. Even today tata sky shows the same old spoiler which mentions abt cheapuddin and Jalal finding Jodha not pregnant.
 
What comes on TV is usually late. It appears on newspapers before that ... source is usually given as tatasky

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@Jaya:

Assuming for a moment it is Javeeda ... what would be her motive? To help Adham? To impress Maham?
 
And why do that by making Jodha preg-like?

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Jodha cant be sent to Amer...She has to be declared innocent here in Agra itself...If Jodha was sent to Amer , no one will believe her innocence...ppl will think she got aborted  there and came back...again that is why it is necessary to catch the criminal or ppl will again think she got aborted and Jalal is saying she is innocent to save his name...

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@Jaya:

Assuming for a moment it is Javeeda ... what would be her motive? To help Adham? To impress Maham?
 
And why do that by making Jodha preg-like?
 
It could be either or neither. She would have seen Adham trying to get hold of Jodha i Amer (while she was dressed as Daasi) and also would have heard Jodha telling Shareef that she came to their room while they both (Adham & Shareef) discussing about defaming and dethroning of Jalal. May she had a complete knowledge of both Maham & Adham's wish to get to the takth of Mughal Sultanate and might think Jodha will be a big hurdle in their way. May be she was the one who had tipped the maulvis about Jalal's visit to temple and bowing in front of the idol.
 
Do you remember what she said to Adhm the other day that if they had been trown out, they will nt even be able to have 2 square meals and she doesn't want to land up out of palace. So she might be worried about Jodha's intelligence and she being the threat for both her Husband as well as her Ammijan.

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