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WeekendAnalysisPost 7:When Passion meets Agression (Page 3)

mehvy12 Senior Member

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Posted: 17 August 2013 at 3:36pm | IP Logged
Very nice analysis! You got every point. 

I believe Rukhaiya may be feeling insecure in Jalal's attentions towards Jodha. Right now she may be passing it off as a game, but I feel she knows deep down that it's more than that. Because no matter how many times he will say that Jodha is just his present for his win, others can see she is fast becoming more than that. He is mesmerized by her. 

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Posted: 17 August 2013 at 4:22pm | IP Logged
Wonderful analysis Jyoti di, however I'm much afraid that what if they change the script under pressure from the Rajputs. Ouch I just hope they don't do that, coz the story is getting gripping day by day n also it's progressing in a steady flow. Clap

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Posted: 17 August 2013 at 11:02pm | IP Logged
Awesome analysis jyoti.
Da weekend was gr8 wid big bang hot romantic hate wala love scene. Then mirchi wala scene. I wanted jodha 2 act maturely. She should have tasted da food bt she accused jalu. And abt ruqu i find her totally evil more dan MA. She misguides jalu which isAngry. And da flag scene jalu dreamt of jodha. Dat was a positive sign .

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Posted: 17 August 2013 at 11:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by jyoti06

Jalal and Jodha both r not in love yet ... Jodha hates Jalal with passion Ouch while Jalal wants to own Jodha with agression Embarrassed... This makes both characters very interesting since both r not ready to give up.. Its the battle of equals in a way CoolEmbarrassed...What both r yet to realise that they both hv left a very deep mark in each other's heart which is impossible for anyone or their own self to wipe off Blushing and this is what will slowly bring them close to each other Embarrassed

And this is the most amazing part...They both equally standing against each other...with their opinions feelings and egos at the same level!

What I feel is Jalal initially had made up his mind not to meet Jodha but that foolish Ruqaiyya seems to b hell bent on playing reverse cupid here by instigating Jalal to go to Jodha ka room and claim his authority on her since he is the king and he cant b humiliated by a random queen who says she is not interested in him .. at times I feel what a fool this Ruqaiyya is where she is sending her own husband to her new sautan so that Shehenshah can prove he is the man in this relationship LOLOuch

LOLL, this is true..Ruqaiya's character is being played around in a very careless manner. She can become a very interesting character, if CVs be a little sincere in handling her!

Sad part here is no matter what Jalal does here , Jodha will think of it in a negative way only like she thinks Jalal is deliberately making a hue and cry about the food and also she thinks Jalal deliberately asked her parents to stay for some more time just to find out opportunities to mayb embarass her Ouch ..Mayb Jalal too thinks that he wants to put down Jodha at any cost but everytime I feel his heart is not giving him that permission to do so and so inspite of getting all angry on Jodha for giving him that spicy food , he still could not embarass her in front of his parents EmbarrassedEmbarrassed...He might try to scare her in private that I will tell so and so to your parents but the truth is he is not able to do so which is driving him crazy Tongue

Exactly...well said..How much ever Jalal tries harrasing Jodha in private...he ends up being not so mean to her in public! Like u said...this thing definitely frustrates him...dunno who will be the one who will tell him this isnt hatred but affection..loll!

 .. I m waiting for the day when someone like Salima will make Jodha realise about the many positives of Jalal too Day DreamingDay DreamingDay Dreaming

At times, i hope that itns not someone, but Jodha herself, who slowly starts seeing how Akbar is not so mean and cruel, but i doubt that will happen coz in every action of Jalal she somehow ends up concluding it with his evil intention!

And if Jalal was Mr.Unpredictable this week then Madam Jodha was the motormouth this week LOLLOL...Fourth comes the scene where Jodha went on and on against Jalal thinking its Moti behind her but instead u hv Jalal listening to Jodha's words and I guess this is first time he mayb standing behind and doing work of his begum like giving puja thali and all just to listen what his begum thinks about her ..Poor Jalal .. he looked so damn amused with Jodha's list of complaints against him ROFL...Even though I dint like the way Jalal is blindly following Ruqaiyya's words here Angry but still the whole temple scene was funny the way Jodha opened her complaint box against Jalal to Moti and instead u hv Jalal listening to it all and mayb thinking woww this woman has a point damn it  LOL...One thing Ruquaiyya said right though about Jodha defeating Jalal's heart slowly Tongue...Jodha is indeed defeating Jalal's heart here because his heart knows Jodha is right when she talks about how Jalal should not use her parents to play this one upmanship game with her Thumbs Up...

Definitely one of my fav scenes...It was absolutely amazing, how after listening so much he dint stop her...but continued listening to all she said. S..All he cared was what the lady had to say to him...Him quitely givng the puja thaali was like a real husband!
He dint let his Shahenshah-ness come in between and stop Jodha! It was a subtle and adorable moment of Jodha-Akbar!

Last but not the least madam motormouth today too went on and on about the banjaras and their flag which again has a point reason why Jalal had to release those banjaras Tongue...Jodha's words might frustrate Jalal but he too knows they all hv a perfect point which cannot b debated Tongue... 

Jodha is lady who carries the courage to speak againts the injustice to any body...Here too the case was the same...Sumwhere it would have been nice to see what Akbars decision was without Jodhas inputs to that issue. If it was contrasting, it would have been another clash..loll! else it was another step forward to thinking matching!

Its interesting how Jodha's words r leaving Jalal all amused while Jalal's unexpected decisions are leaving Jodha and entire Mughal fraternity all shocked ...No wonder both r made for each other Cool

At present both r enjoying a snake and ladder game of sorts where at timesJodha gets upperhand like telling Jalal to remove his shoes in front of kanha to embarass him Tongue and at times we see Jalal hving upper hand by asking Jodha about the cut in her wrist in front of her mother Tongue ... This is clear indication that its going to b a playful relationship in future  for sure Embarrassed ...

And these moments are potrayed beautifully. Love the class and subtleness they carry..!

Misses for the week ...

 But the whole Ruqaiyya bath scene in front of Jalal was in bad taste the way Ruquaiyya was shamelessly taking bath and Jalal kept standing like some servant in front of her asking her what to do next Thumbs Down  .. The whole dignity of a Shehenshah came down in this scene which dint go down with me at all Ouch... at times Ekta goes all extreme and destroys characters in this manner Angry .. she needs to b more careful while dealing with these historical characters Ouch

I agree BIG TIME with this...that was absolutely a BAKWAAS moment...lolll
It would have been so much better had Jalal asked Ruqaiyya to come and meet him or talked to her after she finished her bathing cum rose petal playing! Sumwhere it would have been justified, had Jalal been drunk. But with his Emperor status, he went nd talked to her was absolutely silly!

In real history , Ruquaiyya was not even this cunning .. here CVs made her into a scheming vamp now who is even dominating Jalal: The shehenshah Ouch... I hope they dont continue this for long and after chess game we see a change of heart in Jalal as he will realise Jodha is different from others and no more remains dependent on Ruquaiyya Angry ...

Mahamanga is still a elderly lady , so taking suggestion or ideas from her is understandable but Jalal taking ideas from Ruquaiyya like a helpless defeated man was a big turn off for me OuchOuch..

Yup, Mahamanga is way better than Ruqaiiya - who is being continuously shaped into Ekta ki Komolika types! 
(probably its the acting skills too!)
Again..Ruqaiyya herself plotting against Jodha is fine. But here Jalal keeps coming to her to ask ideas..whic is so not Jalal...!
I just hope they stop involving Jalal in kitchen politics. Let the harem ladies under the leadership of Ruqaiya.. sit and gossip and plot against Jodha..!

Jodha and her assumptions at times get too extreme Ermm

I love Jodha's character and I also understand where she is coming from .. but at times I feel she goes a bit too extreme with her assumptions regarding Jalal instead of trying to find out the real facts Ermm

Like for example , if she sees Jalal is all mad with her for spicy food , instead of assuming that Jalal is faking it or he cannot intake Amer's chilli , she could hv tasted that same food in kitchen once again to see if someone later mixed something in food Smile...

Then why this assumption that Jalal made Maan Singh his right hand so that he can prepare Maan singh to fight against his own people ?? I understand she hates Jalal for obvious reasons but why cant she believe that Jalal can make some selfless decisions too based on pure talent like he does in case of Maan singh after seeing the kind of loyalty he has for his people Approve...

I know its too early for Jodha to start seeing the positives of Jalal  , and somewhere she is right about few of her assumptions too but I feel at times she forcibly wants to make her heart believe that a person like Jalal can never take any positive or neutral decision for anyone Ermm...She has made a negative image regarding Jalal in her heart and she is hell bent on making sure that the negative image of Jalal remains intact in her heart Ouch

Somehow some of the assumptions Jodha made this week were a bit put off for me because I felt Jodha could hv done much better if instead of assuming certain things , she could tried to find out the real facts like the spicy food saga ... Ermm...

Jodha has made up her mind, that Jalal is rude cruel and mean...And unless she herself witnesses some good will of his...there isnt anything thats gonna change her opinion. When u hate someone, u just hate everything tht the person does!
Maybe the writers are just takign it to an extreme level so they can build up an interesting love story ahead(hopefully!).

Overall the week was quite good  and inspited of few misses here and there , I m still loving the way story is progressing ahead Thumbs Up.,. started off with a big bang and Jalal-Jodha love-hate chemistry is getting better and better EmbarrassedEmbarrassed

Ditto, loving the story progression as of now...hope the pace continues like this, yet there is movement in story (not just love can be any story..loll!)
Looking forward to the chess match is an interesting track in the story...Both the Begums respect stands in question. More of Ruqaiya, since she had challenged Jodha and was claimed to be the best player of Mughal sultanate! 

Looking forward to all your views Big smile

Thank you for this post, its great to discuss the entire weeks happening in one place! 

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Posted: 18 August 2013 at 12:58am | IP Logged
Originally posted by skanda12

Superb Analysis dear! Loved how u highlighted the progress in JAs relationship. 
3.       The smaller characters and what role they may play into the future of the Jodha-Jalal relationship
Here I see four sets of people( working in pairs) that could affect the future storyline:
a.       Salima and her little son (I see both as potential Cupids in the Jodha and Jalal love story. Salima may allso be a valuable source of info to Jodha on the true good nature of Jalal and the true ill-nature of maham and her son)

With all the little politics and hatred around...I m sure this will be the positive vibes for Jodha in the harem. Looking forward to this. 
b.      Adham and Moti Bai (catalysts for a change in Jodha and Jalal's personalities. Through the unhappy episode of the impending molestation of Moti by Adham, and then Jalal's imppending bad judgement against MotiBai by asking for her to be buried alive in a wall, there is opportunity for Jodha to intervene and impact Jalal's sense of justice and appeal to his heart-in-hiding!)

@bold-blue - And i am looking forward to this impact. though there are high chances of it being positive, sumwhere i feel Jalal may not truly take it in the good stride...After all it will be the first time one of his begum..whom he thinks he hates...who is nothing but a sign of his victory...has impacted his decision making. Not even Mahamanga has done that...! If its another looking forward to it. Bechaara Jalal, he would want to blast off Jodha...but cant bcoz she is right and he knows it..loll...Ohhh..nd if its in the darbar..phir toh icing on the cake. Khulle darbar mein Shahenshah ke judgement ki bezatti!

c.       Mansingh and Jalal (a new combination whereby Jalal can see his own younger self through the personality of Mansingh. The more Jalal  sees the younger version of himself in mansingh, the more he may be able to recover the lost parts of his personality for example his heart and his sioftness)

Would love to see this...really...Maan sing and Jalals connect would be superb (if Ekta wishes!) and Jodha witnessing it may bring a little edition to the negativity that Jodha has for Jalal.
d.      Ruqaiya and Maham (both the singed parties may decide to collude - Ruqaiya has had her nose cut in the chess game, and Maham will almost have her son's "you know what" cut after he tried to molest Moti Bai and get away (I personally think castration is the punishment Jalal should give him!).

Oops...might really not be looking forward to that... I dont mind Mahamanga potting against Jodha coz she sees the political danger that Jodhas and Jalals relationship can lead to... plus Adham khan- Motibai incident will be a huge blow to her...But getting on with Ruqaiyya and carrying out Kitchen politics is so not Mahamanga. For me even tht mirchi adding scene was more of Ruqaiyya types...not Mahamanga.
How i wish they both just stay away and play around there own ways...lolll...but i feel its gonna be the way u said! I probably can take Mahamanga planning some high-level saazish'es and using Ruqaiyya as a puppet...haha!
Would love to know if you all agree with my take above?

Edited by tara_211 - 18 August 2013 at 1:24am

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jyoti06 Channel Moderator

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Posted: 18 August 2013 at 12:48pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by elasingh

Fantastic post Jyoti...Jalal and Ruku's scene bore me to death but yes because of her stupidity we get to see more Jodha and Jalal...So I am willing to tolerate Ruku for a while.
On the whole it has been an interesting week where we have seen progress in their relationship...

Same here .. I too dont like Ruqaiyya scenes with Jalal but since they r indirectly helping in Jalal-Jodha progress , so I m ready to tolerate it LOLLOL

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Posted: 18 August 2013 at 12:50pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by skanda12

One of the interviews of Ekta has reported that she plans to change the name of the show from Jodha Akbar to just AKBAR ...
... so the new name may be:
Akbar: Do dharmo se judi ek prem katha
What she plans to name Jodha is not clear, but even this can be done nicely if she changes the script to show that Jalal, after Jodha's success in chess, and especially after she refuses the prize, decided instead to give Jodha some status wiith a new name for her (maybe he can choose something that has a lot of meaning for him!). But as usual Jodha may misunderstand him that he is changing her name to erase her past or her wajood!
If Ekta does something like this it may look natural like part of the storyline and yet also appease the Rajput Karni Sena.
What do you think?

Mansi we even discussed this via SMS .. it will b really interesting to see how Jalal gifts a new name to Jodha out of sheer respect since even after winning the chess game , she does not demand anything in return and how Jodha takes it .. initially she might feel Jalal changed her name to show his superiority but eventually she might accept it once she realises that he gave her the new name out of respect Embarrassed

But for now it seems only the show is getting a new name ..that is Akbar .. we r not sure if Jodha name will b changed or not Ermm

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Posted: 18 August 2013 at 1:02pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by LuvMishalRaheja

ok , I totally did not like Jalal pointing the  cut in Jodha's hand to Mainavati . After all that cut was caused by none other than him . Should not he feel bad about hurting her physically ? Hurting a girl physically ? He could've put Jodha in her place by saying something else...anything...

I find lack of sensitivity very unappealing in a person .

Thats what the story is about .. how Jalal was insensitive and emotionless and how its Jodha who turned him into a human with emotions and so one expects Jodha to b the matured one in this relationship Embarrassed.. also that cut in wrist is the kind of physical pain which normally a woman loves to hv after her first night with her man .. so thats one reason why he points it out to Mainavati to make her believe that both r hving a normal husband-wife relationship , something that Jodha only wanted Jalal to say and that time he said , ok words will b mine but in my style Wink .. so yeah thats his style LOL .. and somewhere it does go with his ruthless character Ermm


I love the green dress that Jalal wore today , but they should've given him some other jacket with it , the color was not suiting .

It seemed to me that Jodha was wearing the same dress of yesterday's episode . Now , why is that ? 

Or I'm wrong n it's a different dress ? 


I laughed very hard , I must confess , when Jalal was eating that mirchi-wala food . I couldn't help , rajat gave such awesome expressions .  Jalal's teary-eyed face was thing to behold n cherish . He's soo cute at that scene . I wished Jodha to look at him , she would've understand immediately that the dishes made by her had been tampered with .

Its actually funny how Jalal who is suppose to b this brave warrior and people r afraid of him cannot eat spicy food LOLEmbarrassed .. I agree Rajat was awesome with his expression in that scene and for once we can feel that he too is a normal human somewhere who cannot take spicy food .. Embarrassed


I found nothing wrong in Jodha's behavior . Jalal was again giving her the 'blaring eye - trying to scare ' treatment .  Jodha needed to tell him that this technique won't work this time . 

She gave Jalal solid n full-proof logic about her innocence in this whole mirchi food treatment . But he lend no ears . Very fair I must say . 

Actually  both have huge ego issues , but then I guess it's a bane of royality .

See in this case I dont expect Jalal to chk the facts because his character is suppose to b all insensitive and badly brainwashed .. even though like I said in my take , I dont like how he is blindly following Ruqaiyya for advice but at the same time I m not expecting him to show sense so soon .. But in Jodha's case , I expect more maturity from her since she is suppose to hv that intelligence on her own , reason why she even wins the chess game .,.. so here I expected Jodha to doubt that someone must hv mixed something in food or else Jalal suddenly wont react in this manner but instead we see Jodha was quick to put the blame on Jalal not able to digest Amer chillies Ouch


No way I'm ready to agree that Jodha should feel sympathetic with a guy who had manhandled her just a day or two back . She has every reason to hate Jalal . It would look totally unrealistic if she suddenly goes all soft for a person who has even hurt her physically n do not show an ounce of regret . Instead Jalal mentioned that cut to Jodha's mother even . 

 I never said she should feel sympathetic .. I think u misunderstood some part of my post Embarrassed .. All I said was Jodha should not jump the gun so soon but rather try to first find out the proper facts if in future she had to take on the likes of Mahamanga , Adham khan and Ruqaiyya .. she should know who r her enemies there  rather than assuming Jalal is only her worst enemy which is not the case since we know her worst enemy out here is Mahamange followed by Ruqaiyya .. Jalal is just a weapon ..

But one thing I'm pretty much sure that had there been anyone , just ANY OTHER person in Jalal's place n Jodha got to know that his mouth was burned by eating over-spicy food , she'd have made a fuss making him eat sweets , honey etc etc to soothe his mouth .

But it WAS Jalal , so she was completely indifferent to his situation because she has no compassion for him n I think she has yet no reason to feel any compassion for him . 

 I too dont expect her to make him eat sweets or honey .. and yes if it was someone else , she would hv done that .. I m in fact happy that she is not starting to feel bad for Jalal so soon .. but all I wanted here is Jodha to do some self-thinking regarding how suddenly the food turned spicy .. who is behind it .. is it a trap against me .. thinking on those lines mayb Ermm

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