Originally posted by: shana0127seeing to the confusion regarding future of the show ...i just feel that show will surely end by October or November end with unification of saras kumud ...and i feel its best way to do justice to he show
rather then drag it into saas bahu drama
slb started it with a vision of saras kumud love story and it should end with completion of it ...and all will be happy slb and sp too
plus now news is that slb may continue till end november as new ph seems reluctant to take over as they have differences over financial and creative issues
Originally posted by: IdiotViewerHgg & smrth Bhai's,
Very persuasive arguments both sides. Both with equal merits too, however, seconding Arshi, I will reserve till Desai's actually bid Kumud adieu without entirely 'rectifying' the lacks witnessed in last Fri's episode. For pure curiosity only, not holding out stringent hope, either way.Here too I am witnessing a 'clash' (intellectual sense), between creative "consiousness" (smrth) and creative "conscience" (Hgg). Both same sides of the coin for me. But with SP/SLB split, very difficult to reconcile with full surety now. Inconsistencies will linger. As worst case scenario we may even have to reset all prior markers and reads to make sense of story now. We know the grammar has changed, but to ascertain the A,B,C's of current grammar, we may need to wait it out a bit =)smrth Bhai, regarding 'Kusum'... I did venture a read in response to Hgg bhai. Reproducing the relevant here (if you may excuse VC's bit, as pure subjective analysis 😳):"Hgg bhai... Pardon me for saying so, but there was something 'effeminate' about VC's reaction... Plus taking recourse from symbolism, rushing straight to 'tulsi' effectively emasculated (perfect term!) him at that point. However, wider symbolism applied here, I read VC, Gun and Dukh baa all, as stripped of their "agency" from here on... Not liking this, but witness Kusum, at higher ground and Saras at lower, locked out, outside gates... Why would there be need to show Kusum at chatt out of all places, I wondered. Why not aligned with 'emasculated elders' but instead at attention like an armed sentry? Has 'agency' been transferred to Kusum now... 'Agency' that will not only put her at odds but also on a higher "moral" ground from Saras? Kind of like... My didi's so noble for soldiering thru, and you are so shameless for sticking on?! I don't read the two (Saras, Kusum) as "allies"... I don't read Kusum as being an ally in the most purest sense for Kumud even. Coupled with Saras' vow, she is gonna cause more harm than good. A headache, than support. Kusum has that potential to splinter Kumud's "crutch"... My biggest fear "Edit: Also smrth Bhai, pardons for belaboring the point, but you find no evidence of 'character meddling' anywhere in show? Even a monosyllable will suffice. I know by this point you must have typed yourself 'hoarse' 😳
Originally posted by: ArshicsYour interpretation of Kusum on the chatt, looking down and Saras locked out -👏But the symbolism of tulsi - I have a slightly different way of looking at it.Infact smrths insistence on "she is not coming back" is what triggered this thought.Tulsi is a worshipped plant, highly respected, but, never kept indoors. A tulsi plant will be well cared for, tended and nurtured, but it is always kept outside.Is that the correlation? That Kumud is now like the tulsi of their aangan? No longer inside their home?An outsider, loved, cared for , but still, an outsider?
Originally posted by: ArshicsMakes perfect sense Ivy, going to the exact spot, and taking the kasam, was a correlation with Saraswati, and anyway, who is Saras, but saraswati's son?Right from the moment we met Saras, we have also seen a tussle about who he is.LN demands that Saras become his son, Guman claims that Saras is hers and she has moulded him to her design, Mai has her own claims on him, and Guniyal becomes ma to him.He denounced LN and Guman by choice, and Mai and Guniyal have been lost to fateHe is, was and remains saraswati's son. So if saraswati's fate is becoming Kumud's fate, he will want to change that is also right.And Kumud - her birth mothers shiksha of accepting the good and bad in the husband, has given her the aastha, her saasuma's aasha, will give her the himmat, and the third mother, represented by Saras will give the raasta.Aastha, himmat aur raasta, jab sab saath hon, toh manzil mil hi jayegi. So pramaad sudhar is bound to happen,
Originally posted by: ArshicsYes, ivy, it's about haq and hadd here too.Once a girl is married, even today, her parents would hesitate to visit her, ladki ke ghar ka paani peena bhi paap hai.Though not practiced so rigidly, it is still a mindset in the older generation in north India, abt Gujarat, maybe Hgg and smrth can enlighten us. My mom will come and stay to babysit my girls when I and my husband are traveling, but for a holiday - it still has to be the reverse, to go to a bti's house just like that is still a no no for her!And in the rural context, the rigidity is bound to be higher, that is one mindset which still prevails, though not as strongly as shown here.So again brings me back to ' but she is not even coming back' said to Dukhba when she assured him that he had taken care of herIt had seemed odd then , but correlate it to beti parayi ho gayi - that he could care for Dukhba, because she let him, she came back into his house, so she gave him back the haq to care for her.And Kumud by not coming back, has reminded him of his hadd, could that be the significance of these lines?Your brilliant brilliant interpretation of the story as defined by hadd and haq - isn't that what's happening with VC , too?Since parents, extended parents can't go to the sasural, but younger siblings, particularly sisters are exempt from this rule, kusum then becomes the natural choice to go to Kumud's sasural .Again hadd and haq here!And smrth - that one incongruous sounding line, so out of place then , was the crux of the scene - amazing catch from you, as always!Kya karain, apni tube light der se jalti hai!
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