Crisp Bytes SC - 14th Aug 13 - Page 5

Originally posted by: hotdogg

not to be too cynical...but it definitely looks like that arshi..

Also even now a sep-end scenario is still on the table...the new PH could also do this for free / reduced charges...the infrastructure / set is ready and paid up for by SLB / SP..and which is like an empty airline seat which is useless for the airline once the plane's taken off..so it / SP could simply pay a rental to SLB/ SP...and finish the story...

sort of a top-up..since it wants its show ...IPK2 ...with SP...remember our earlier discussions on TRPs...the PH has a product ready and wants a buyer...and SP is a big buyer with a legacy of IPK to boot!

...coz all said and done both SP &SLB had at one stage staked their prestige on this show...from a legacy point of view they would want it to at least end and not remain a noticeable failure which it would be if it ended abruptly...

on obligations...there is no business like show business!!!...if obligations made at the start mattered to all parties responsible for this debacle we would not be in this state today!

😉

Originally posted by: smrth

Dugba'!😕 Her re 'awakening', is an eyesore disfigurement of source nuances, that even a casual reader would have noticed. Lousy. It unnecessarily fogs one of the strongest aspect of the original- Guniyal. But how bogus? For all din DB elicits, she is only messing up. A noisome adaption, much better if we would have been spared. But more humbug, real mother is noticeably kept aside. Why? Here she is, broadly mentioned as real life line of the clan; discreet, prudent and sharp. Why do they write her suddenly so off in case of her own daughter?? Did they forget, how natural Real Mothr-Daughter always come through?... But no. They gotta have Kumud's 'baby' rush to pseudo mother! As real parents were watching a 'drama'.And a spurious melodrama, at that.🤢 But unwittingly it reflects bent of the things that appears on card. Changes and shifts everywhere. Less sensible and more 'claps'. While real Potential and good sensibilities, 'go take a back seat.' Here are formulae, presumably🥱 fitter for instant TRPs and channels's GEC ratings. Welcome cacophony- as she makes good rattling sounds,'dug dug' ba.

And NavinSaras. He is fitting the bill. Trouble inventor. Until he effects a 'rescue'.

Originally posted by: shana0127

2 month extension means november end coz...till september end they already had contract so plus two month means November end


still i am not happy we need at least a year to actually have a valid end

i too dont want it to be dragged now as its going really well and if it ends by february then we have a whole story  coming to a logical happy ending

Edited by arshicritic - 10 years ago

Reemz..

your posts though less in number are insighful...

love the effort you made to reach out to jennifer and help sort out all the bad press some time back..

some of us here often discuss and go many layers deeper than what is portrayed, try frameworks to explain character behaviours, take off-beaten tracks  - both on the characters and the story / track etc...

If you have followed these threads - I trust you will agree that most of us devote so much time and bandwidth (both intellectual, from personal & professional time) simply because we are passionately and emotionally involved in this show - and as per our families & friends,  sometime excessively so 😉.

We have always been an outspoken group - both on the positive and negative aspects of the group.

So here I trust you are mistaken - its not that knowing about off-screen world is impacting our understanding of a first-rate epi.

Its the other way around. The epis are starting to fray on
- the overall track logic
- speed of the track (introduction of key elements of Act 3 right now)
- missing of critical tracks in Act 2
- track deviations / additions  

This is leading to major deviations from the original work, unfortunately very noticably to some of us who have internalized the show so much (Iwould be part of this category) & know so much about the original work (smrth)

The only reason this can be explained is unfortunately by the off screen reality.

While your point is duly noted - "Lets give this show & new PH sometime".
and we are not bashing...this is simply free-wheeling discussion among us ...

We have experienced off-screen reality impacting the show earlier when SLB was trying to garner to TRPs. We were very vocal at that time too. Then he veered back to the story which is when we got the best set of epis - and now we are experiencing a sense of deja-vu.

While a democratic right to freely express, supported by the simultaneous right to agree / disagree embodied in Arshi has been our guiding principle - we sometimes agree to disagree and park our strong POVs for the future to prove / disprove. We also stand up later and admit we were wrong too.

The moot point being we all continue to contribute, discuss and learn from each other.

So do continue to post...

And lets regroup in the near future to see which of us was correct...
👍🏼

Edited by hotdogg - 10 years ago

Originally posted by: Adiani

Arshi, Superb lines again. I would be missing CB more than SC.

I would rather treasure few meaningful episodes than dragged extension.

 I've a Plan B In place, I'll start watching IPK1 with strong recommendation of yours truly. Noticed it has 300+ episodes, will last an year. 

Episode:

 Kumud averting the grill from her family and Saras getting deceitful in front of BD family. Both are getting immersed  deeper into their own lies, no defence will be sustinable when truth will be out. 

Kavita written by Kumud,with words of pyaar at naveen's hands. More humiliating than his so called earlier 'galti', when caught. How bad on Kumud! 

Isn't Saras being depicted more and more like repeat offender?

 A culprit who has not learnt his lessons? I wonder where they are taking this to?

To me, VC family is excusable for overlooking this time, Kumud looks far better than what she was at the time of actual marriage. It would be unreasonable to be truly happy after the disaster Kumud had. They would be happy just to see signs of recovery. Pramaad left home, saved himself from getting caught.

 

I cannot tolerate  this way of story telling, red herrings and nothing coming out of it. Feels like someone out there making fun of sincere viewers. 

Originally posted by: P020167

Haven't seen the episode yet...looks like nothing happened and it is better to skip.

 

Now since SC got two months extension and that too with KJs production, will we be able to see some pace, let us wiat and watch?

 

So this Umesh guy is here again and will poison Pramad more. Didn't Pramad knew about Saras?

Edited by arshicritic - 10 years ago

Originally posted by: arshicritic

Hogg, continuing with your prev post here.

Re: BDs change of mind, was it just to show him in a sympathetic light? 

or was it laying grounds for a quick end? in case pramaad does die, and the show has to be wrapped

 up in a couple of months, a remorseful BD, who also suspects the truth about Navin, will then

 personally push for Saras Kumud marriage, making all the TRP aunties very happy, and making

 everything neat and tidy. 

Agree arshi--

And there has been so much emphasis on the 'saras as BD's beta' part in recent times...explicitly mentioned by BD and now by Pramad... in the previous epi before the departure ..we had pramad holding back saras and stating you are his beta I could not be ,,,,
 
In the novel naveen was a valued employee / advisor  - never a beta category...

But then the reunion becomes easy to explain na?...giving away kumud to my own beta ...

Originally posted by: hotdogg

Reemz..

your posts though less in number are insighful...

love the effort you made to reach out to jennifer and help sort out all the bad press some time back..

some of us here often discuss and go many layers deeper than what is portrayed, try frameworks to explain character behaviours, take off-beaten tracks  - both on the characters and the story / track etc...

If you have followed these threads - I trust you will agree that most of us devote so much time and bandwidth (both intellectual, from personal & professional time) simply because we are passionately and emotionally involved in this show - and as per our families & friends,  sometime excessively so 😉.

We have always been an outspoken group - both on the positive and negative aspects of the group.

So here I trust you are mistaken - its not that knowing about off-screen world is impacting our understanding of a first-rate epi.

Its the other way around. The epis are starting to fray on
- the overall track logic
- speed of the track (introduction of key elements of Act 3 right now)
- missing of critical tracks in Act 2
- track deviations / additions  

This is leading to major deviations from the original work, unfortunately very noticably to some of us who have internalized the show so much (Iwould be part of this category) & know so much about the original work (smrth)

The only reason this can be explained is unfortunately by the off screen reality.

While your point is duly noted - "Lets give this show & new PH sometime".
and we are not bashing...this is simply free-wheeling discussion among us ...

We have experienced off-screen reality impacting the show earlier when SLB was trying to garner to TRPs. We were very vocal at that time too. Then he veered back to the story which is when we got the best set of epis - and now we are experiencing a sense of deja-vu.

While a democratic right to freely express, supported by the simultaneous right to agree / disagree embodied in Arshi has been our guiding principle - we sometimes agree to disagree and park our strong POVs for the future to prove / disprove. We also stand up later and admit we were wrong too.

The moot point being we all continue to contribute, discuss and learn from each other.

So do continue to post...

And lets regroup in the near future to see which of us was correct...
👍🏼

Edited by arshicritic - 10 years ago

Hey Arshi, 

Originally posted by: IdiotViewer

Hey Arshi, 

Not venturing an analysis, per se. Highly let down by today's offering. Your CB was the only saving grace of my "holistic SC experience" today.

Instead, breaking tradition, have gone thru CB first before posting. Hgg bhai, a delight to see you still actively engaged, imparting logic and consistency at a time it is severely wanting 👍🏼

Happy, that was a brilliant VM, a very unusual and charming concept. Very classily done. Huge props to the maker, and thank you, my friend for sharing such a marvellous fusion with us 😳

smrth Bhai, I did not like the relegating of Guniyal to be honest, but consoled myself that maybe Dukhbaa might take the bull by its horns, to speak... Watching that "game" today, was a low blow. It seemed to be making a mockery of when that "game" was first played. So charming and innocent then. Full of deceit and blind eyes today. Vaudeville at its worst, unintentionally funny. What of Dukhbaa's proclamations now, more WHY Dukhbaa's proclamations NOW? 🤢

Arshi, a point... I won't be too surprised if SC remains "Sanjay Leela Bhansali's Saraswatichandra" till its very end. There is a charge to the above that takes expectations and prestige associated with work to another level altogether. Also, SLB is most assuredly not signing off on what we're currently seeing anymore. Last Wed's epi was the last of SLB supervised, and for me it represented the pinnacle of what SC was all about. The prevailing grammar has shifted now. But I take huge solace in the fact that SLB did not walk out and abandon his small-screen dream in the most callous of ways. He did not opt out. He in fact offered to take SC to a beautiful end but his vision was negated in favor of a strict commercial mandate. If anything, I salute the man for not doing gaddari with his kalaa. Not for television rating points. Sphere Origins are merely caretakers... Think of SC as having gone into "recievership" now... Both SP and Sphere will mutually benefit from this agreement. Sphere gets further goodwill from SP for IPKKND2 and SP, in turn, gets a PH who will strictly adhere to their "vision" for SC. A vision spelt in green and in three - TRP/TVT. They will cater to SP's demands and sugestions for show and script and push SC to a 'conclusion' whereupon they can finally concentrate on their own. I say, SC deserved better. This is also indicative of the rut television lies in. A rut it has made its happy home. Highly resistant to any change. Television needs to be evicted from 'home'. Needs to be dragged kicking and screaming into the future, IMHO.