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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:01am | IP Logged
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Well I hope so she takes the clues soon enough or else I will think her brain is indeed a black hole. 

Right now it seems only Arnav's brain is going to light up. Khushi will remain clueless, how can I feel for her when I do not understand her LOL
 
Wahin toh sirf Arnav ki feelings and Arnva ka confusion dikhta hai - Khushi needs to be more expressive! I do not understand her either - she is tooo righteous! LOLLOL

Wahin toh why are we seeing only Arnav's confusion and thoughts.

I thought Khushi was a parallel lead why is her thoughts missing. No one is too righteous in real life. She needs to be expressive.

Her mistake will be made to look like righteousness and I do not want to see that. 

Khushi is parallel lead but I feel the creative sometimes forget that! And I say this because Arnav's character is never messed up with - Khushi's is - more often than not. I want to see her monologues - they are important!

I know - I do not want to see her rigfhteousness projected as right too. Keeping a secret that was not hers - however good the reason might be - is not right! Angry

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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:07am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by sea.nymph

 
Hey there! Big smile
 
Just wanted to say - I am becoming a fan of your analysis now! Please keep writng and bringing them in!
 
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Hey-llo there Anna! Thanks for letting me know... to be honest, I have picked up and learnt a lot from you, Tanthya, Princess, and DB... you guys cover the episodes so neatly - with acute insights and explanations. One just can't help but get addicted to your daily episode analysis! Geek

like, I never really knew about the effect and usage of 'Triangles' until I read DB's post one day! We, readers and forum members learn so many new things just by reading your posts.

It's great to be part of Redux - and yeah, I hope I can contribute good pieces over here Smile

Happy Easter in advance!!

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Hello Nymph! I would take that as a compliment but I guess I myself owe my writing and analysis to Doodhs and Sathya - its after coming here that I have started analysing small things - otherwise I would post in the forum randomly anything! LOL
 
Welcome to the Redux family and I say it on behalf of everyone who is and has become a part of it Smile
 
Happy easter in advance to you too :)))
 
 

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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:12am | IP Logged
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Well I hope so she takes the clues soon enough or else I will think her brain is indeed a black hole. 

Right now it seems only Arnav's brain is going to light up. Khushi will remain clueless, how can I feel for her when I do not understand her LOL
 
Wahin toh sirf Arnav ki feelings and Arnva ka confusion dikhta hai - Khushi needs to be more expressive! I do not understand her either - she is tooo righteous! LOLLOL

Wahin toh why are we seeing only Arnav's confusion and thoughts.

I thought Khushi was a parallel lead why is her thoughts missing. No one is too righteous in real life. She needs to be expressive.

Her mistake will be made to look like righteousness and I do not want to see that. 

Khushi is parallel lead but I feel the creative sometimes forget that! And I say this because Arnav's character is never messed up with - Khushi's is - more often than not. I want to see her monologues - they are important!

I know - I do not want to see her rigfhteousness projected as right too. Keeping a secret that was not hers - however good the reason might be - is not right! Angry


I agree she had the chance to tell him when he asked her as she was crying on his shoulder she blew it.

This was not her's to keep, the Raizada's has the right to know. Even if they do not believe at her 1st. 

Does she not even feel guilty of knowing Shaym's true colour from the family and Arnav and not telling them. 

At least we got to see that Payal does feel guilty of keeping this secret from Aakash.

Now the whole Gupta parivar has amnesia regarding this. They should be feeling guilty about this, how can they even look in the eye of the Raizada's family by keeping such a big thing about their son in law.

What are the cv's trying to show is beyond me.

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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:14am | IP Logged
Originally posted by --Anna--

Sathya, Doodhs and all Redux Members - Hiii! Hug Happy Weekend!!! Smile

Sathya - U have not updated yet with the whole analysis - but you have had me in with the song! Can I say what excellent choce in music u have!? If Bairi Piya was awesome - Ae ajnaabi is FANTABULOUS!!! Clap Clap *Will edit when you update* :)
 
 
Coming to my analysis of today's episode ; Today's episode can and cannot be called a drag. If I have to see the continuity from yesterday's episode then it sure was a drag - because clearly Khushi is not gonna pick up any hints. I have quite much feeling that Khushi will somehow just stumble upon the truth and then will her brains pick up on every word Arnav said. Yesterday's episode - I felt was to give Khushi every clue to reach to an answer - but I do not see it happening any time soon and I do not know what the Creatives are playing at.
 

-- You know what Anna, even I keep thinking that there must be a good reason behind why the CV's aren't showing Khushi connecting the dots, I mean, especially after the numerous hints thrown her way by Arnav during their arguments. She's probably hurt by all his words, to actually focus on the meaning behind them right now. It is possible as you say, that Khushi may stumble upon the truth - and all the hints will flash in front of her, and join to complete the current jigsaw puzzle. Will have to wait and see about this one.

Coming to the equations and their analysis ;

 
ARNAV ANJALI EQUATION
 
 
Their equation is something that I really like to watch out and I wish more of this would be shown. The reason being - this is the main equation on the brink of which the whole track is running. It is the Arnav Anjali bond - the brother sister bond that gives this track the push and I want to see more of it - time and again.
 

Today it was adorable to see Arnav stop Anjali from eating Papaya - and Anjali asking him to relax and not fuss over. We were not shown the concern from Arnav's side for Anjali's pregnancy specifically after he and Khushi got married - and today we saw that. True -it was  for Arnav to know where Khushi had gone - but nevertheless it was cute. More such scenes should be shown in my view. Moreover Barun and Daljeet look so good as bro and sis.

 
 
MAMI PAYAL EQUATION
 

I do not understand this equation at all. One day its Hot - the other day it is cold - small scene - Payal complementing Mami - and Mami retorting back - I could not see any significance in it and I do not know why it was even there.

-- I did not exactly like this scene, but I did like the fact that Mami hasn't changed, she's still sad about losing, and she's such a dramebaaz, I couldn't expect less from her

LOL

 
SHYAM - NANI - ARNAV EQUATION
 
 
Shyam has started making his move - and that is what has kept the story on a teeny weeny bit of progression today. He knows what he wants and that is the file. Now even I am getting desperate to know that what the hell is in that file!? He comes in and uses his charm on Nani - using her beliefs against Arnav. We all know that Shyam has always been treated like a son - a guide of the family - everyone listened to him before and everyone will till the truth comes out - and that is what will stand against Khushi in the beginning. It will be gradually that everyone in the family will move away from Shyam and towards Khushi.
 

Shyam made his move to find the key - played his game well - used Nani as a bait - who used her emotions and Anjali to get Arnav to do what she wanted to do I hence giving shyam that chance to know what he wanted to know. One thing I did not understand - why dint shyam just take the key when he picked the wallet up!? Arnav would not have checked it there and then right!? Now - one more move from Shyam that we can expect is to try steal the key and either get caught or be successful - and finally let us know what is the mystery behind that file!

 
 
ARNAV KHUSHI EQUATION
 
And here comes my favorite part - The Arnav Khushi equation! :)) Starting with is Barun looked gorgeous in green and Khushi in purple! Now coming to their equation :
 

Khushi sees Arnav taking care of Anjali and she is surprised to see the duality in his character. She cannot understand how one man can care for his di so much and hate and hurt her so badly - tears in her eyes are a reflection of what she feels and how much she is hurt of his cold - hearted behavior towards her. I personally would have expected the hints to come in play here and she could have linked two and two - but no! Nothing like this happened and she just leaves - what was the point of Arnav saying and blurting out so many things yesterday then!?

 
Next Arnav comes to know that Khushi and Shyam had gone to get medicine for Anjali and it was she who had sent them together. Does he feel guilty!? Yes he does - he realizes he was wrong and he had misunderstood her. He sees her walk up the stairs and wants to apologize. He calls her out and speaks to her softly - telling her that all she had to do was let him know where she was - and he would have been okay - and that was his way of saying sorry. Khushi retorts back with I do not need to tell you something - and that is where Arnav disappears and ASR comes back. He remembers the interaction of Khushi and Shyam back stage and on the terrace and rightly thinks - ' she could have refused to go out with Shyam - but she did not' - something that even I had thought.  What was beautiful in the scene was the trust he has started building up on her. When initially Anjali tells him about the reason - not once - did he think about what he saw backstage and on the terrace - all he felt was relief! I said it in my analysis yesterday that it was endearing to watch Arnav question Khushi on where she was - not once - but more than 4-5 times because in his heart he had hoped that he had seen wrong and there was a justification to it - and today when he got that answer - he was just relieved! He was glad! What he thought later was only because of the retort he got back from Khushi and nothing else.

-- I knnowww !! (Monica - from F.R.I.E.N.D.S style) I loved the way he instantly got up to go talk to Khushi... sighh... the way he's grown as a person!
 
 
Next comes the silent treatment! Am I in a favor of it - hell yeah! I have always said - if Khushi wants to get her answers from Arnav she needs to get it out in a mature way. Her OTT drama did not get her anywhere and neither did I expect it to. What gets Arnav Singh Raizada ticking is - her silence - her withdrawl from him. She may not realize it - but that is the best way to break him, however much he may say he likes it the other way.
 

Everything was perfectly done - Arnav getting irritated by Khushi's dupattas and asking her to not put them there and what does she do while he keeps up at his angry outbursts as he feels she is not looking and answering him - she does what he wants without answering him. That is how she hurts Arnav - by not saying anything. Same thing was shown in the file thing - he commented on her messy attitude of keeping things here and there - in hope of getting a reaction - but again no answer - and he got even more frustrated that even in that silence - khushi helped him.

 
What does the great Arnav Singh Raizada do then!? He claims to be happy that she is silent and that he is glad that now it would not be so difficult to stay with her for 6 months - that he wished he could not see her face also - but he cannot throw her out before the time is up - bringing tears into her eyes. What I felt from this scene - was that instead of telling all of this to Khushi - he was trying to somehow get Khushi to talk and to convince himself that it was all happening for the good. He was hurt by her silence and he did not want to be - hence even though he spoke  harsh words to her - it was more of him convincing himself that all is well if this is how she wants to be.
 
 
Khushi on the other hand - very hurt with his words - decides that if he does not want to see her ever - she will grant him that wish and never come in front of him. And this is where I would like to tell a certain Angry man - think before you speak and wish. ;)
 
 
The whole of the next part of the episode was dedicated to Arnav and his love for Khushi. Here is a man - who claims to hate her to an extent of proclaiming that he does not want to see her face - and the one moment he is alone - all he does is thinks about her. He can deny - he can hide - he can run away from all of it - but he cannot ignore the fact that she has become the most important part of his life. When she is not there physically - she is all he thinks about - she haunts his brains - she brings a smile on his face - she is the one who he lives for. He may not have gone and explicitly looked out for her - yet not having seen her one day - and all he could do was think about her and her alone. No cloud of misunderstanding - just both of them and nothing else.
 
 
Next day again when he does not see her again - he is restless and he goes to find and look for her. And is he happy when he hears her voice!? He is! Is it not what he wanted - to see her and hear her voice again!? He may scream - shout and do anything but he cannot hide the fact that no matter what he cannot do without her.
 
 
All I can say is - if in hatred the man cannot stay without her for 2 days - what will happen to him when she may leave him and go away and he will seek repentance! All I can say is that day -Arnav Singh Raizada will  create History in love! ;))
 
 
Small and light - hearted episode! Not much to analyze but still have tried to touch on few points!Smile
 
 
Love :)
 
@Doodhs : 
 
Could not reply to your analysis yesterday - since I was busy at work - but it was as usual FAB! Star But I will restrict myself to today's analysis and it was MINDBLOWING!! Clap Clap - I do not think I have ever said it - but I love the quotes that you give in your analysis - and then the explanation behind it. That is what makes your analysis beautiful to me (and mostly turns out to be the status messages of my FB wall TongueLOL)
 
Coming to your analysis - The way you have explained Khushi's confusion and why at this moment she cannot understand the duality in Arnav's character is very well explained. I agree - she needs that trigger to start connecting the dots soon - to question herself and realize that he is not that bad person - he has taken care of her and her family and there is something that is bothering him very much - to despise her and hurt her at the moment
 
I love how you said - "both are equals since both have said spiteful words to each other" and this is where I say that this is the reason why both need to repent and realize their mistake. Both are at fault and both need to correct. Both are just seeing the present - and not what had happened in the past - and the day they do it - they will realize the blunders that they have done.
 
I love the end line " A man is like a cat - chase him and he willl run- sit still and ignore him and he will come purring at your feet! " ClapClap
 
 



A good read... lots of food for thought... Thumbs Up

Happy Easter Anna!! Smile



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love the song..very emotional episode

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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:34am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sunflower52

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Originally posted by sunflower52


Well I hope so she takes the clues soon enough or else I will think her brain is indeed a black hole. 

Right now it seems only Arnav's brain is going to light up. Khushi will remain clueless, how can I feel for her when I do not understand her LOL
 
Wahin toh sirf Arnav ki feelings and Arnva ka confusion dikhta hai - Khushi needs to be more expressive! I do not understand her either - she is tooo righteous! LOLLOL

Wahin toh why are we seeing only Arnav's confusion and thoughts.

I thought Khushi was a parallel lead why is her thoughts missing. No one is too righteous in real life. She needs to be expressive.

Her mistake will be made to look like righteousness and I do not want to see that. 

Khushi is parallel lead but I feel the creative sometimes forget that! And I say this because Arnav's character is never messed up with - Khushi's is - more often than not. I want to see her monologues - they are important!

I know - I do not want to see her rigfhteousness projected as right too. Keeping a secret that was not hers - however good the reason might be - is not right! Angry


I agree she had the chance to tell him when he asked her as she was crying on his shoulder she blew it.

This was not her's to keep, the Raizada's has the right to know. Even if they do not believe at her 1st. 

Does she not even feel guilty of knowing Shaym's true colour from the family and Arnav and not telling them. 

At least we got to see that Payal does feel guilty of keeping this secret from Aakash.

Now the whole Gupta parivar has amnesia regarding this. They should be feeling guilty about this, how can they even look in the eye of the Raizada's family by keeping such a big thing about their son in law.

What are the cv's trying to show is beyond me.


Bang On salma! That is what I have been trying to say - Let her come out with the secret - if the Raizadas do not believe her then they will be blamed - abhi she is to blame and so are the guptas. And yes the guilt is missing. Chalo one moment I can understand that why the gupta family is not guilty - but Khushi is going through crap from shyam everyday - he is not going to change and still she feels that she is doing right!? Arnav does not know the extent Shyam can go - but Khushi is aware of the cheat he is - she needs to tell someone! 

Creatives have lost it - Khushi is least bothered about Shyam - his realization is only there when he does something. Just like I want Khushi's monologues about Arnav - I want to see about Shyam too



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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by doodleberry

Originally posted by sea.nymph

"Silence is a girl's loudest cry. You know she's really hurt when she starts ignoring you" - Anon


Also, learning (gradually) from Tanthya and DB about the 'Triangle' ' noticed the Anjali-Khushi-Arnav triangle today, which to me meant, that Khushi will always value their relationship, and will do everything in her power to preserve this sweet bro-sis relation. (Me treading a bit into this new territory of the triangle).

Yeah, she'll leave him one day for sure for Anjali (for a short period) ofc. That's my guess.. WhenI still have doubt ... either when wedding reason will be out or when Anjali will learn the truth. 

SHYAM-WALLET SCENE

I was a bit puzzled as to how to interpret the wallet-key scene. What I came up with was that, the key represents Khushi's innocence, honesty and truth regarding the whole MU. And that Shyam knowing the reason behind Arnav-Khushi's marriage will try to hide this factor of Khushi from Arnav. (Sounds a bit ridiculous, I know), but the wallet does represent something valuable- Arnav's heart? (Will read others' posts to get a clearer insight into this.)

This one I'll still say that lets wait.. It's not about the key, the dhaaga is the connection. File,well it's either related to Anjali or Aakash's deal file. 

Have a good weekend folks!! Smile

 


Lovely post. Keep 'em comin'. Big smile 

Happy Weekend Nymph and yeah Schizo Arnva we will see more...bas dekhti jaao...LOL

I am in green as usual.


Hi DB... as far as I know your analysis by now, you've been on the right track, so we'll have to wait and see for the reason which will make Khushi leave Arnav. It'll probably take time.. but I'm waiting to see how much Arnav will miss her then!! and regret, and repent and all the other painful stuff that he will encounter with her leaving him.

And yeah, I thought a bit too much for the 'Shyam-wallet' scene... if it goes as you said in your post -
"Anjali will hand over the "Sacred Thread" to Shyaam in presence of Arnav or may be Khushi but I want both Arnav and Khushi as then they can connect the dots separately." - this would be great to watch!!

Thanks and have left a few comments in your analysis too...

Cheers! Smile

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Posted: 07 April 2012 at 4:43am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mouramen

@ Tant, earlier i was a fan of ur writing, today u just floored me wth d choice of ur song. have been humming d same since yest eve after watching d episode.

@ Doodle, abhimaan strikes d love birds. loved yr choice of words.ClapClapClap
 
I am going to talk  about d gradual progression in Arnav's character. Would start from d green room scene when he says that don't believe what u see. Isn't that what he was doing so far. Or has he mend his ways? So practicing what he himself [preaching. That's why he starts questioning Khushi kahan thi tum? He wants to give her a chance . answer  which can pacify him for the time being, can soothe d lava in his heart right now.
 

A very age old truth from d matriarch of the family: waqt insaan ko badal deta hai: isn't it changing the man ASR himself. He has realized that he can't let go Khushi out of his life. She has to, need to, destined to be with him because heer ke bina ranjha adhura.

He is ready to bend, ready to confess within himself. He cant apologise to Khushi when he hears d reason of her disappearance act with Shyam because of his bloated ego. Still feels its Khushi's fault, memories keep on haunting him'. Why didn't Khushi refuse to go with Shyam. This is d possessive lover thinking' when he cant say no to Anjali.. infact none of d family members do so' then how can Khushi overrule her instruction.

Arnav says its good that Khushi is not talking but actually he has started missing her constant blabbering'her nonsense talk. Khushi has already started residing in his heart so obviously d room is crying loud of her absence.

one thing just came to my mind: why were they having the fight in d staircase? Arnav bends ...pulls Khushi up to him... khushi pulls him back... she is about to fall.. when arnav held her and this time he didnt honor khushi's choice ... he held her close to him... does all this means they r going to hold each other from falling apart... saving each other... staying together in d ups and downs of life. can this be of any symbolism or am i reading too much into it.

Absolutely loved:
    Arnav's early morning reaction of getting up and looking at d bed. Looking out for d face which he announces he hates to see. His ears eager to hear d monologues or at least d anklets.
  1. Arnav declares almost to himself; Main khud dundh lunga

 

Did you notice: todays convo between payal and mami was devoid of her signature dialogue'. Khun bhari tangue>

 



Hi ! I caught myself nodding in agreement with each line in your post LOL  I have the same thoughts in mind regarding Arnav's character developing over time, and his 'schizo' tendency of saying something when he means the exact opposite...

Good post!! Star

Happy weekend Smile

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