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Posted: 23 December 2011 at 12:24am | IP Logged
Archana was the most innocent person and best wife, DIL and mother...
 
 
Deshmukhs are not worthy of Archana...

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Posted: 23 December 2011 at 12:29am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Dabulls23

Archana was the most innocent person and best wife, DIL and mother...
 
 
Deshmukhs are not worthy of Archana...
Bingo!!Thumbs Up This sarcasm is 3/4th true to my POV  varsha di,  except the innocent person partLOL

Archana has her own flaws like how Manav has. Neither of them is a saint. 
I wudnt agree that she is innocent but yes she is a good DIL, wife. For me she has failed as a mother to soham and not to other kids. 

But yes i totally agree the deshmukhs specially Savita the Mother India, is not worthy of a DIL like Archana the chanaBig smile 

Archana and Manav deserve each other. For me both are flawed and none is a saint.



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Posted: 23 December 2011 at 11:31am | IP Logged
Wonderful Archana with big heart is consoling Evil Vahini Manju..
 
 
It takes only someone with wonderful sansakars to be able to look away from all the meanie things Vahini has done and console in the time of need...
 
 
Wonder if Sanskari Sulo will give Vinod his last rituals rights back as now she is also consoling her DIL
 
My heart just felt so good seeing today's episode...Love and care all over ...karanjkars are the santa spreading happiness...

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Am resting but I felt like responding to Sharon's post as some of the points she made were interesting .

To me, Archana isn't scheming and manipulative, because she has never sought to wilfully hurt or harm anyone.   What would you call what she did to Varun and Madhuri ? That it was only  Madhuri's decision ?  That Archana had no hand in the PERJURY committed blatantly in court ?Then why was she sitting in court to give that perjury her blessing ? How did Madhuri become her best friend by initially being called a DO TAKKE KI AURAT by the same Archana ? AFTER the lawyer apprised her of her sister's illegally wedded status ?

 Manav was the person who first invited Varsha to stay without even telling Archana, much less telling Savita! I agree that Archana had no right ot invite Sulochana to stay at the D's house without first asking Savita, but I don't think that taking advantage of her. I think it was a case of Archana not thinkinig at all, but I wouldn't call it taking advantage of Savita. Manav did everything to please HER and EVERYTHING he did was BLESSED by her , not REFUSED categorically . Sometimes , by weeping profusely on his chest she even PUT HIM UPTO IT by asking MANAV AAP KUCH KEEJIYE . This is the woman , who when she wants to refuse , CAN REFUSE , and boy can she do it strongly without bothering about Manav's feelings . For instance , in the chawl case , Archana told a FLAT NO to Manav when he told her to drop the case . But she could not when he brought Varsha home or decided to give up his lifes savings to buy her mother a house ? Is not that CONVENIENT ? His Mother Savita is supposed to bear her samdhan for months in her house and watch her son's money being put on her samdhan's name in entirety ...and this is NOT taking advantage but simply innocently 'not thinking" ? Even at the auction Savita told her That the money belongs to the kids but Archana told her firmly and irritatedly , I DON"T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT YOU WUD NEVER UNDERSTAND ANYWAYS . Can one see her STRONG WISH here that the money shud be spent on her MOTHER not KIDS and that she wanted NO INTERFERENCE in this decison  from her MIL ?

If a DIL is to be blamed for the actions of her family and the consequences, then Vandu should be blamed for everything that happens to her and her in-laws which are a consequence of action taken by any member of her family.
This approach isn't practical at all Bhalla. People keep blaming Archana for Sachin's death when she had nothing to do with it at all. Its time this stops. It would have stopped if Archana had done a counter case against Manju for getting a family beaten up in jail , for giving them a permanent police record and for the subsequent rejection of Sachin's visa that led to the shattering of his dreams and his drunken walk on the road and the tragic accident .
Sure , Girish did the phone call that broke the engagement and the truck driver put the truck in gear But WHY was the visa rejected ? The jailing had nothing to do with it ? The drunk walk was due to whom ?

Manju

Who protected Manju by giving her anticipatory bail ? Archana .

But who did not hesitate to put case on HUSBAND ? Archana .

No one has DIED in Lokhande family due to Vandu . If they had , even indirectly , trust me , Rasika wud have not let the Deshmukhs hear the end of it . So wud have Sulo if VINOD had died . The truth is Savita forgave Archana for Sachins death and even accepted Sulo in her house initially when bad days befell her ...she later got pissed off again due to Archana's neglect of her feelings and also as she misunderstood about the money .

The blame to Archana about Sachin's death goes MORALLY as it was SHE who let Manju go SCOT FREE . She and SULO . Manav looked at Archanas eyes and REFUSED to do a case against Manju saying Archanas family is MY family . Archana smiled at him for his 'UNDERSTANDING" . Manav behaved like a 'coached' husband . Then Archana went and sobbed in front of Damodar . Damodar too showed her ways to protect Manju . Unable to bear it , college going Vandu did what Archana shud have done ...she did the case and put at least AJIT in jail . For that she got kidnapped . For that she got defamed . Her self esteem got destroyed and scared , she married the man for the sake of her family's badnaami . A foolish girl ...but one can trace her tragic decision to the spate of unlucky events unleashed by Archanas decision of NOT prosecuting Sachins Moral killer Manju .

In my opinion Archana IS to be blamed and Manav and Damodar r to be EQUALLY blamed for going under Archana;s spell . Sachin was THEIR BLOOD , their rage shud have been bloodthirsty ...not quenchable by a beautiful sobbing face .

Vandu's decision to marry Ajit broke Savitas backbone . She became a tigress whose claws got plucked and cud no longer maul the killers of her son . She had to bend before Rasika and Manju for the rest of her life by adjusting wiith circumstances and keeping in mind that her foolish daughters fate depended on those 2 vicious women .

In my opinion THAT was the hardest punishment for Savita ...She even danced like a prostitute at Rasikas behest for her daughter 's happiness , the ignorant woman ! 

I DEFENDED Archana then . I wish I cud take back ALL my posts . Coz the way her character never developed was a STEADY PROGRESS . Nothing changed in Archana and the Deshmukhs suffered more and more losses due to her family and her blind love for it . Slowly but surely I started feeling a grudging sympathy for the crude , ignorant Savita .  I deplore her acts like pinching a baby etc . But her hate for Archana ...its not unfounded .

Today too she has run after Manju when Manju needed being left to her own fate . Her immediate willingness to forgive ANYONE from her maika is astounding . Her grudge against Manav for simply wanting to be rich however stayed put or a long time . She detested it and never quite forgave him for it . How surprising .

 People react differently to similar situations. Probably Archana's way of coping is to pretend she is okay. She will laugh and talk to others when deep inside she is hurting. If she were to always be upset, that would mean her having to always be explaining to others why she is upset, thereby always having to talk about her chikdren. She could go into deep depression this way. Will agree with u here .  She DOES foolishly pretend all is ok when she it most emphatically is not . But her private reflections have been very INADEQUATELY shown . She has been shown RATHER CONTENT with just Poorvi and Sulo and it IRKS us as the children grew up WITHOUT a mother .

What else was Archana to do but give up her girls. If she decided to go to court to fight for her girls, she would have been lambasted for that too. Whatever she did, Archana would have been criticised.

I am her most ardent critic but I am also a mother . THIS fight I wud have understood . I wud have continued blaming her for INVITING this fight in the first place but her bid to fight for the kids ...THAT I wud have understood . It takes guts to give children up in circumstances like Shravani's ...not Archanas . Shravani was an unwed mom . Archanas kids were born legally . Shravanis fiancee had DIED . Archanas husband was ALIVE . Just ANGRY . A little effort and she cud have brought him around . Which she did not bother to take but sat huddled like an unhappy lover in a rocking chair . Shravani and Savita had lost something common ...SACHIN ...which they both tried to replace with sumthing common ...SACHU . Shravani's child needed legitimacy . Archanas children did not . They were born within wedlock and both parents were alive and capable of great love . Shravani gave up her child to be brought up WITH a mother and father AND the grieving grandmother ...A complete family . She requested Archana to look after Sachu for life . Even then Shravni's decision to give her kid up is debatable ...I DO understand those who say Shravni shud have taken Sachu with her to give him a better life rather than leave him in that chawl . Never have I not conceded to THAT . 

But Giving up children when ur legally married , when u LOVE ur husband , when u KNOW he is rightfully angry , When u have just lost a child  and u shud now cling more to the existing children , when one of them ...SAchu is a promise who u have to fulfil to be answerable to  his existing mom who has left him by trusting YOU in YOUR care ...giving up ALL that just so u win ur husband back by giving him a msg of sorts ...THAT shocks .

Shravani shud have clung to Sachu as he was Sachin's nishaani ...but at that point we did not know if Shravani intended to ever marry again .

With Archana the possibility of remarraige was not even there . She practically gave her LIFE away ...and for what ? For LOVER's EGO . It hurt her that Manav did not bother about HER but only asked about the kids . So Ok , u take the kids , Here they R , she said sadly and bitterly and WAITED for him to come and placate her . 

That was NOT the time for WAITING . It was the time for RUNNING . Behind the kids .

As a matter of fact , she ran . On the roads . At the last minute . But by then it was too late .

I merely gave my take as I found ur points interesting .  It was not to refute u or shut u down . Just a discussion .Smile



















 





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Posted: 23 December 2011 at 6:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

Will agree with u here .  She DOES foolishly pretend all is ok when she it most emphatically is not . But her private reflections have been very INADEQUATELY shown . She has been shown RATHER CONTENT with just Poorvi and Sulo and it IRKS us as the children grew up WITHOUT a mother .


Totally agree with this Di, Ofcourse ,when nothing is not ok with her life,everything has been destroyed, the most important cheez, her marriage,marital  life being broken and her children being taken away, still she decide to pretend ok foolishly with just having her mom by her side.Yes though we do agree ,she is hurting inside and she foolishly pretend,as the underlined statement says, it was not show adequately...And thats where we are concerned about,cannot take all on assumptions.


I am her most ardent critic but I am also a mother . THIS fight I wud have understood . I wud have continued blaming her for INVITING this fight in the first place but her bid to fight for the kids ...THAT I wud have understood . It takes guts to give children up in circumstances like Shravani's ...not Archanas . Shravani was an unwed mom . Archanas kids were born legally . Shravanis fiancee had DIED . Archanas husband was ALIVE . Just ANGRY . A little effort and she cud have brought him around . Which she did not bother to take but sat huddled like an unhappy lover in a rocking chair . Shravani and Savita had lost something common ...SACHIN ...which they both tried to replace with sumthing common ...SACHU . Shravani's child needed legitimacy . Archanas children did not . They were born within wedlock and both parents were alive and capable of great love . Shravani gave up her child to be brought up WITH a mother and father AND the grieving grandmother ...A complete family . She requested Archana to look after Sachu for life . Even then Shravni's decision to give her kid up is debatable ...I DO understand those who say Shravni shud have taken Sachu with her to give him a better life rather than leave him in that chawl . Never have I not conceded to THAT . 

But Giving up children when ur legally married , when u LOVE ur husband , when u KNOW he is rightfully angry , When u have just lost a child  and u shud now cling more to the existing children , when one of them ...SAchu is a promise who u have to fulfil to be answerable to  his existing mom who has left him by trusting YOU in YOUR care ...giving up ALL that just so u win ur husband back by giving him a msg of sorts ...THAT shocks .

Shravani shud have clung to Sachu as he was Sachin's nishaani ...but at that point we did not know if Shravani intended to ever marry again .

With Archana the possibility of remarraige was not even there . She practically gave her LIFE away ...and for what ? For LOVER's EGO . It hurt her that Manav did not bother about HER but only asked about the kids . So Ok , u take the kids , Here they R , she said sadly and bitterly and WAITED for him to come and placate her . 

That was NOT the time for WAITING . It was the time for RUNNING . Behind the kids .

As a matter of fact , she ran . On the roads . At the last minute . But by then it was too late .


Di, wonderfully put about the difference on Shravani as a mom in giving up her child and archu as a mom giving up her child... Well Said...Clap
When I read that comparison, saying that shravani was not blamed but why archu, exactly I wished to the write the statements and sentiments you have written.
As once written,How soham and sachu case were different, here too shravani giving up sachin and archu giving up Teju,Ovi and having a lonely life of 18 yrs is different and in archu's case its uncalled for...


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Originally posted by koolsadhu1000

Am resting but I felt like responding to Sharon's post as some of the points she made were interesting .

To me, Archana isn't scheming and manipulative, because she has never sought to wilfully hurt or harm anyone.   What would you call what she did to Varun and Madhuri ? That it was only  Madhuri's decision ?  That Archana had no hand in the PERJURY committed blatantly in court ?Then why was she sitting in court to give that perjury her blessing ? How did Madhuri become her best friend by initially being called a DO TAKKE KI AURAT by the same Archana ? AFTER the lawyer apprised her of her sister's illegally wedded status ?
 
Hi Kools,
What I meant was Archana isn't the type who is ALWAYS scheming and manipulative, like Dharmesh, for example. The example you used is one time when she used Madhuri for her sister's advantage, which I found at the time to be wrong. Archana isn't always right, that I know.
Do takke ki aurat...don't know what that means, so can't respond.Smile
 
 
 
 
 

 Manav was the person who first invited Varsha to stay without even telling Archana, much less telling Savita! I agree that Archana had no right ot invite Sulochana to stay at the D's house without first asking Savita, but I don't think that taking advantage of her. I think it was a case of Archana not thinkinig at all, but I wouldn't call it taking advantage of Savita. Manav did everything to please HER and EVERYTHING he did was BLESSED by her , not REFUSED categorically . Sometimes , by weeping profusely on his chest she even PUT HIM UPTO IT by asking MANAV AAP KUCH KEEJIYE . This is the woman , who when she wants to refuse , CAN REFUSE , and boy can she do it strongly without bothering about Manav's feelings . For instance , in the chawl case , Archana told a FLAT NO to Manav when he told her to drop the case . But she could not when he brought Varsha home or decided to give up his lifes savings to buy her mother a house ? Is not that CONVENIENT ? His Mother Savita is supposed to bear her samdhan for months in her house and watch her son's money being put on her samdhan's name in entirety ...and this is NOT taking advantage but simply innocently 'not thinking" ? Even at the auction Savita told her That the money belongs to the kids but Archana told her firmly and irritatedly , I DON"T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT YOU WUD NEVER UNDERSTAND ANYWAYS . Can one see her STRONG WISH here that the money shud be spent on her MOTHER not KIDS and that she wanted NO INTERFERENCE in this decison  from her MIL ?
 
 
The "not thinking" part was meant only for the one instance of telling her mother to stay with the D's without first asking Savita, not for all that happened after.
I too did not like Varsha staying there and thought Archana should have been firm in telling her to go. My posts on that matter will reflect this.
In terms of auction and what happened there, as I said above, I was only speaking of the one occasion when Archana asked Sulochana to stay at her home without getting the go ahead from Savita first. Everyone, I believe, is of the opinion that Archana placed too much attention on her birth family, and most certainly made mistakes, but to me, someone who is scheming and manipulative has a bad/wicked streak in thier being, something I don't think Archana has.
If a DIL is to be blamed for the actions of her family and the consequences, then Vandu should be blamed for everything that happens to her and her in-laws which are a consequence of action taken by any member of her family.
This approach isn't practical at all Bhalla. People keep blaming Archana for Sachin's death when she had nothing to do with it at all. Its time this stops. It would have stopped if Archana had done a counter case against Manju for getting a family beaten up in jail , for giving them a permanent police record and for the subsequent rejection of Sachin's visa that led to the shattering of his dreams and his drunken walk on the road and the tragic accident .
Sure , Girish did the phone call that broke the engagement and the truck driver put the truck in gear But WHY was the visa rejected ? The jailing had nothing to do with it ? The drunk walk was due to whom ?

Manju

Who protected Manju by giving her anticipatory bail ? Archana .

But who did not hesitate to put case on HUSBAND ? Archana .
 
These two situations are separate and different. Here, I'm talking about what Manju did at that time. The court case with Manav happened years later and is no way related to what Manju did to the Deshmukh's and their consequent jailing and losing Sachin. I'm talking about the fact that Manju made the police complaint without anyone knowing, not even the family members in her home, yet Archana is always blamed for this incident. This is not right or fair. I have never agreed with Archana's actions re the chawl matter and taking her husband to court for this matter, but this case is completely different to Manju's case, and should be seen as different situations. In the case of the police complaint, Manju is solely responsible. In the chawl case, Archana is solely responsible. Two completely separated cases with two different people being responsibe for them.

No one has DIED in Lokhande family due to Vandu . If they had , even indirectly , trust me , Rasika wud have not let the Deshmukhs hear the end of it . So wud have Sulo if VINOD had died . The truth is Savita forgave Archana for Sachins death
 
There was no need for Savita to forgive Archana because she was not responsible for Sachin's death.
 
 
 and even accepted Sulo in her house initially when bad days befell her ...she later got pissed off again due to Archana's neglect of her feelings and also as she misunderstood about the money .
 
Agree with you here.
 

The blame to Archana about Sachin's death goes MORALLY as it was SHE who let Manju go SCOT FREE .
 
The Deshmukh family could have taken legal action against Manju, particularly Savita.
 
 
 
She and SULO . Manav looked at Archanas eyes and REFUSED to do a case against Manju saying Archanas family is MY family . Archana smiled at him for his 'UNDERSTANDING" . Manav behaved like a 'coached' husband . Then Archana went and sobbed in front of Damodar . Damodar too showed her ways to protect Manju . Unable to bear it , college going Vandu did what Archana shud have done ...she did the case and put at least AJIT in jail . For that she got kidnapped . For that she got defamed . Her self esteem got destroyed and scared , she married the man for the sake of her family's badnaami . A foolish girl ...but one can trace her tragic decision to the spate of unlucky events unleashed by Archanas decision of NOT prosecuting Sachins Moral killer Manju .
 
Once again, Archana isn't the only adult here. Sachin was a member of the Deshmukh famliy. Savita is Manav's mother and she can do what she wants or thinks is necessary, when she wants to. She won't ler Manav get his way if she doesn't want him to. She could have taken legal action when Manav refused. Savita has run her son out of the house when she has disagreed with his actions in the past, she most certainly could have gone to the police for Sachin's sake if she wanted to.

In my opinion Archana IS to be blamed and Manav and Damodar r to be EQUALLY blamed for going under Archana;s spell . Sachin was THEIR BLOOD , their rage shud have been bloodthirsty ...not quenchable by a beautiful sobbing face .
 
They are both adults, capable of making their own decisions. If they allow Archana to influence them, then that is their fault and their responsibility, not Archana's. Manav could have been as firm then, if he wanted to, as he has been, just prior to, and post 18 year leap.

Vandu's decision to marry Ajit broke Savitas backbone . She became a tigress whose claws got plucked and cud no longer maul the killers of her son . She had to bend before Rasika and Manju for the rest of her life by adjusting wiith circumstances and keeping in mind that her foolish daughters fate depended on those 2 vicious women .

In my opinion THAT was the hardest punishment for Savita ...She even danced like a prostitute at Rasikas behest for her daughter 's happiness , the ignorant woman ! 

I DEFENDED Archana then . I wish I cud take back ALL my posts . Coz the way her character never developed was a STEADY PROGRESS . Nothing changed in Archana and the Deshmukhs suffered more and more losses due to her family and her blind love for it . Slowly but surely I started feeling a grudging sympathy for the crude , ignorant Savita .  I deplore her acts like pinching a baby etc . But her hate for Archana ...its not unfounded .
 
All the work of the CV's and the CV's only.

Today too she has run after Manju when Manju needed being left to her own fate . Her immediate willingness to forgive ANYONE from her maika is astounding . Her grudge against Manav for simply wanting to be rich however stayed put or a long time . She detested it and never quite forgave him for it . How surprising .
 
I don't see that Archana begrudges Manav for getting rich. To me, she was objecting to how he sounded, full of hate, not about succeeding. Post the 4 year leap, Archana was upset with Manav when she thought he was changing as a person, not for succeeding in life. That's how I see it.

 People react differently to similar situations. Probably Archana's way of coping is to pretend she is okay. She will laugh and talk to others when deep inside she is hurting. If she were to always be upset, that would mean her having to always be explaining to others why she is upset, thereby always having to talk about her chikdren. She could go into deep depression this way. Will agree with u here .  She DOES foolishly pretend all is ok when she it most emphatically is not . But her private reflections have been very INADEQUATELY shown . She has been shown RATHER CONTENT with just Poorvi and Sulo and it IRKS us as the children grew up WITHOUT a mother .
 
Once again Kools, the work of the CV's. I too am not happy that Archana wasn't shown thinking of her children. Eighteen years and not much change in a person, especially one who went through what she did! Not realistic at all. Even if she didn't try to contact Manav, she should have been shown thinking about her children, in her private moments! Not happy about this development at all!

What else was Archana to do but give up her girls. If she decided to go to court to fight for her girls, she would have been lambasted for that too. Whatever she did, Archana would have been criticised.

I am her most ardent critic but I am also a mother . THIS fight I wud have understood . I wud have continued blaming her for INVITING this fight in the first place but her bid to fight for the kids ...THAT I wud have understood . It takes guts to give children up in circumstances like Shravani's ...not Archanas . Shravani was an unwed mom . Archanas kids were born legally . Shravanis fiancee had DIED . Archanas husband was ALIVE . Just ANGRY . A little effort and she cud have brought him around . Which she did not bother to take but sat huddled like an unhappy lover in a rocking chair . Shravani and Savita had lost something common ...SACHIN ...which they both tried to replace with sumthing common ...SACHU . Shravani's child needed legitimacy . Archanas children did not . They were born within wedlock and both parents were alive and capable of great love . Shravani gave up her child to be brought up WITH a mother and father AND the grieving grandmother ...A complete family . She requested Archana to look after Sachu for life . Even then Shravni's decision to give her kid up is debatable ...I DO understand those who say Shravni shud have taken Sachu with her to give him a better life rather than leave him in that chawl . Never have I not conceded to THAT . 

But Giving up children when ur legally married , when u LOVE ur husband , when u KNOW he is rightfully angry , When u have just lost a child  and u shud now cling more to the existing children , when one of them ...SAchu is a promise who u have to fulfil to be answerable to  his existing mom who has left him by trusting YOU in YOUR care ...giving up ALL that just so u win ur husband back by giving him a msg of sorts ...THAT shocks .

Shravani shud have clung to Sachu as he was Sachin's nishaani ...but at that point we did not know if Shravani intended to ever marry again .

With Archana the possibility of remarraige was not even there . She practically gave her LIFE away ...and for what ? For LOVER's EGO . It hurt her that Manav did not bother about HER but only asked about the kids . So Ok , u take the kids , Here they R , she said sadly and bitterly and WAITED for him to come and placate her . 
 
I saw it as Archana being in such a dark place at that time. When we are going through something like that, we sometimes don't think rationally. I saw it as a case of the straw that broke the camels back...when Manav told her she was an unfit mother, that he didn't trust her again, that the children weren't safe with her...I think she just gave up then. Manav means the world to her. She knew she had just done a grave injustice to him re the chawl and court matter, so to go to court again and basically say he isn't as fit a parent as her so that she could keep her children...I think that was just too much for Archana to beat at that time and that is why she gave up her children.

That was NOT the time for WAITING . It was the time for RUNNING . Behind the kids .

As a matter of fact , she ran . On the roads . At the last minute . But by then it was too late .

I merely gave my take as I found ur points interesting .  It was not to refute u or shut u down . Just a discussion .Smile
 
I'm very happy to have had this discussion with you Kools.Smile
Reminds me of the good old days and when we first began chatting on the forum. You did say your views are usually very different to the majority and the views expressed here between both of us, are a great example of how two people can see the same thing from different perspectives.Smile
 
This is what the forum should be about, members expressing their views, and other members disagreeing in a good way. Healthy debate is what this is.
 
Thanks for the great debate Kools, and I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas and New Year. Hope your children get exactly what they want for Christmas!Smile



















 





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I agree that Archana has done a lot for her in laws, she isn't a bad person but like Savita said Sulochana turned Archana bad. Think about it towards the end of her marriage she focused very little on her children and in laws and spent way too much time with Sulochana and perfect strangers. Its fine that Archana didn't agree with Manav's views about the chawl but did she have to drag him to court?? Archana who at one time worshipped Manav and support his dreams was the one shown crushing them. Archana has been influenced too much by her mother that she can't even see where she went wrong. If it weren't for Sulochana, Archana's life would've been much different
 
As for Manav, he's as much to blame for his marriage falling apart as Archana. Like Archana he let others have an influence on his marriage and had little faith in his wife. We've seen many times how quick Manav was to believe the worst of Archana, he still does thanks to Savita. The problem with both Manav and Archana is the fact neither had much faith in the other, I don't doubt they love each other but without the trust they have nothing.

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Posted: 24 December 2011 at 6:10am | IP Logged
These two situations are separate and different. Here, I'm talking about what Manju did at that time. The court case with Manav happened years later and is no way related to what Manju did to the Deshmukh's and their consequent jailing and losing Sachin.

Sharon I know the 2 situations r different . What I am trying to point out is the difference in REACTION that Archana chose to show while doing one common action ...slapping a court case or pressing charges against a FAMILY member .

She refused to press charges against Manju saying Manju is FAMILY and I cannot go against my very own .

She refused to file charges against Varsha for kidnapping Soham saying Varsha is FAMILY , My OWN Sister , how Can I discard My Very Own

But she did NOT hesitate to slap a case on Manav . Was not Manav family or her very own ?

This is the hypocrisy that I am trying to point out .

Regarding Savita having no reason to forgive Archana for Archana did nothing ...I respect ur views but since mine r a tad different , I will explain myself a little here 

Sharon , Savita lost a young son . She lost him coz of a chain of events unleashed by Archana's family ever since Archana set foot in her house , just in a span of TWO MONTHS , Savita lost her younger son . It was not as simplistic as the truck driver driving rashly or his engagement being broken . Till that ill fated marraige of her elder son , everything had been FINE in her life . They were a dysfunctional family but at least they were LIVING .Then arrived Archana ...beautiful and good but with a baggage ...a troublesome family , in which Manju and Ajit too were included . Many call Savita evil and I agree that she is Manavs baggage . But no one from Karanjkar family DIED . From Deshmukh family , they DID . Archana personally did not do ANY black deed ...her family did . But Did Archana break ties with her family ? Did she do the case on Manju as Savita asked her repeatedly to ? She did NOT .

Savita alone wanted to do that case .She was an uneducated woman and was depending on the males in her family to do it . But both the males were under Archana's spell , smitten by her . Savita kept screaming as the grief in her heart was burning her . Fyi , Vandu did it .
I do blame Manav and Damodar for letting themselves be influenced by Archanas POV . I blame them a lot for disregarding Savita's real grief and thinking from Karanjkar POV . 

But all I am saying is , the ARMAN marraige was an arranged marraige that destroyed the happiness of the Deshmukhs within a span of two months ...and no mother on earth will welcome this marraige or even bother to 'understand ' it if a son is lost to DEATH . Such a grief renders one incapable of ever forgiving a person ...and expecting Savita to 'love' Archana is too much , in my opinion . Yet she eventually calmed down and DID come around . Archana's own mother wud have NEVER done it if Vinod had died ...hell , she does not forgive her living son for even thwarting her great SANSKAARS . Here Savita had lost a YOUNG SON . And Archanas family WAS involved and Archana chose to keep relations with them and NOT prosecute them . Neither wud have Bhavna forgiven , nor wud have Rasika . But most of all , SULO wud not have forgiven Manav had this SAME thing occured with HER .

Merry Christmas to u too Sharon . The Christmas cookies r being baked ...and the tree has been decorated . I wish I was 7 again .


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