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How much has the characters really evolved? UPDTD (Page 3)

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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 5:26am | IP Logged
it think alot
all character in the show did well
as being good evil funny sad
but that is there job on what to do
well ipkknd is amazing and will always be at number 1
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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 5:35am | IP Logged
Great analysis- agree Khushi has to be a bit more sensitive to the views of others and NOT INTERRUPT- she has to stop being so judgemental about ASR - though she had good reasons in the past, everything about ASR now tells a different perspective. Her character should be shown as growing in manners, approach to people, becoming more patient- of course her bubbly nature is a delight to watch, wish there was also some sensitive depiction.

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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 5:45am | IP Logged
Originally posted by incandescent

Originally posted by Marybarton

I think you have a done a wonderful job. I agreed with everything you said. I find it odd how these thoughtful posts don't get enough views or replies on this forum. Then, if you compare to characters, they topic is shut down. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Thoughts about characters and reflections? I have no issues with the popular posts which are also fun, but I am finding this forum really limiting on other grounds. Hope your topic becomes popular because it is a great one.

I beg to differ that thoughful posts don't get enough views. I have always written analytical posts from the very beginning and I got plenty of views and replies. it is through these posts that I have interacted with many members and became friends. 

I personally think the forum is lacking thoughtful posts these days other than a few. because many members who made thoughtful posts are busy right now.

A lot of member such as current ( she's busy with studies so she's irregular now), momma1128, tanthya, msuniverse, sunaina02 ( short but to the point posts) , opti, honeydew (irregular) , sbk2, DiyaS ( weekly posts )  and a few others regularly make analytical posts and they are all  very popular in the forum and get a lot of views. 

If you are looking for good posts, do check out there posts.

thanks for your reply.Smile

geet.a, ex community_drive now ultimatebarun also makes good posts



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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 6:02am | IP Logged
Originally posted by kitty25

Originally posted by incandescent

Originally posted by Marybarton

I think you have a done a wonderful job. I agreed with everything you said. I find it odd how these thoughtful posts don't get enough views or replies on this forum. Then, if you compare to characters, they topic is shut down. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Thoughts about characters and reflections? I have no issues with the popular posts which are also fun, but I am finding this forum really limiting on other grounds. Hope your topic becomes popular because it is a great one.

I beg to differ that thoughful posts don't get enough views. I have always written analytical posts from the very beginning and I got plenty of views and replies. it is through these posts that I have interacted with many members and became friends. 

I personally think the forum is lacking thoughtful posts these days other than a few. because many members who made thoughtful posts are busy right now.

A lot of member such as current ( she's busy with studies so she's irregular now), momma1128, tanthya, msuniverse, sunaina02 ( short but to the point posts) , opti, honeydew (irregular) , sbk2, DiyaS ( weekly posts )  and a few others regularly make analytical posts and they are all  very popular in the forum and get a lot of views. 

If you are looking for good posts, do check out there posts.

thanks for your reply.Smile

geet.a, ex community_drive now ultimatebarun also makes good posts






thanks Marybarton for saying what I ahve been thinking a lot about this forum. Thanks Incandescent for making it correct. and thanks Kitty also. 
I just have one thing to say, I think the forum is extremely busy and thoughtful posts do get lost very fast but also I have many times seen that fun/gushing posts are very repetitive over the same topic..like the whole bathroom precap..fr eg yesterday I wanted to write on LAs brilliant exit from the show..all I could see was the first page filled with the bathroom precap..I know and understand it was cute and of course gushworthy also, but I think mods should keep a check so that repetitive posts dont clutter the forum..I shall be back on my take on the main post..evolving characters


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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 6:27am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Ipepe

Why is that we find arnav merely possessive when he asks khushi authoritatively about the person she was talking to... but khushi becomes nosy?

Don't girls of her age behave like that..."let me teach your boyfriend a lesson because he misbehaved with you".La is her friend.

Well I am  saying she's a bit nosy because it's not the first time she has done this. She went out of way to convince La to get married to Arnav, went out of way to convince Arnav to get married or come to puja, then she sold her bangles and wrote a fake suicide to make Arnav bring her back.She hasn't really shown a possessive attitude towards Arnav. I think Khushi is generally a bit nosy.

I didn't mention Arnav posessive Embarrassed But yes I don't think Arnav is nosy because he hasn't shown the trait. He can be called  posessive because he only does that with Khushi.

For me,its more about accepting the character as it is than about character evolution.If she starts giving space to people who are close to her,I will find it more uncharacteristic than evolving.

I want her to try and change that impulsiveness,that annoying attitude of running without listening to him AT ALL.

Other aspects should always be there,even if those are bad.Her desipan,her nosiness.Just like people here want arnav to retain that ASR-ness to some extent.Regardless of how ridiculous those traits really are.

That's part of Khushi's character and I don't want Khushi to become 'un-KHushi like' but she does need learn to listen before making judgements, jumping to conclusions...just like Arnav who also needs to stop jumping to comclusions. 

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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 6:30am | IP Logged
Dear lady,,just a few comments

I agree with you on some points and disagree with you on others.

My main point, I suppose, is that I think that the CVs are taking their time-- they are playing out each storyline in it's own time and allowing everything to develop organically.

Each story is given its due.

Shyam's story is on the back burner for the moment- to allow Lavanya a proper exit.

Everything will come in time I believe; I think that every storyline will play out more slowly, to allow the show not to end too quickly-- one of the biggest mistakes the same PH made in the past was that all the really dhamakedaar storylines were played out too quickly, leaving them scrambling for more and more idiocy

This is why I believe that THIS time round, the CVs are giving each storyline its own little moment in the sun, to allow it to be dealt with appropriately

Remember, each episode is only 20minutes or so long-- each week we only get 1hr 40mins of show.  Each character needs some time to shine, and it can't all happen simultaneously.


Originally posted by incandescent

I agree with so much of what you say about Lavanya.

If La ever comes back, I don't want her back as a vamp, certainly not after this.  AGREE


KKG : Although I love KKG, I have to admit that her character has not grown much. Her heart is always at the right place but she has to give up her nosy attitude. She has to learn the concept of privacy and learn to say no and do things that pleases her or is right for her instead of making endless sacrifices for her family who gives two hoots for her feelings. She has a tendency to suppress her real emotions at times in order to make others happy. This will only cause her misery in the long run. Khushi is one of the strongest female leads I have seen in soaps and I disagree with all those who say she is not emotionally and financially independent. I hope from now onwards we get more glimpses of her inner feelings.

KKG is developing, developing well and clearly.  I think we have to remember that she is still only 18, only young.  Her every behaviour is explained clearly on the show.  I like the consistency of character -- and its a great indication of her feelings for ASR that she continues to butt into his life.  

Barun and Sanaya both rock as ASR and KKG. But the duo is looking very tired and sick these days and at some point it might affect their performances. I can't tell you how much I disagree-- to my eyes neither looks particularly tired or careworn, and I honestly believe the other characters are used well to develop the story

                            

ANJALI : I really don't know where to start and where to finish. Can this character go more downhill? During the early days of IPK, Anjali was a loving and caring sister but she also gave her brother space, respected and understood his feelings. Not just Arnav, it seemed like she understood each and every member of the family. But now it appears that it's all about her. When she found out about ASR-La break up, it seemed that she cared less about what ASR wanted and more about not letting La leave because she has developed an attachment towards her. She seems emotionally dependent on every other member of the family and is completely out of touch with reality.

The initial appearance of strength was a facade-- her inner weakness is not apparent till one gets to know her better.  We were as deluded as KKG that this woman is strong; it is only as we got to know her that we could see how weak she is-- as KKG saw that as well.  KKG didn't spill the beans simply because of Di's weakness; she recognised the inner kamzori.

When she heard about Khushi's break up, it looked like she was more heartbroken and then Khushi. I have a feeling she is still hung up on her past to an unhealthy extent where she compares every broken relationship with her broken marriage (the one we saw in flashbacks) and possibly with what happened to her parents.

Enough has been said about her marriage with Shyam. I am guessing she is just like La (who refused to believe that her relationship wasn't working). I mean she is in denial as well. She probably gets signs of Shyam's misdeeds but chooses to ignore them preferring to live in her happy bubble.

Does she really need to cry buckets after buckets of tears? This is getting really annoying. What a waste of a talented actress. I miss those sibling moments between her and Arnav where Daljeet completely rocked with her performance.

Anjali needs more exposition, but there is back story there; her need for her husband is pathological and I truly believe her weakness will be what will force KKG into marriage with ASR.  Her need to have her world ordered and everyone in specific set roles is pathological, it's an illness-- she is not just a poorly defined character, she is someone who is deeply hurt and ill, and this is why ASR defends her so much.  We are currently being left to imagine her backstory, but I do believe it will all come out in time

SHYAM : Lamest fictional antagonist I have ever seen. This character has no real purpose. I hope the cv's come up with a back story at least. As for  Abhaas, I am not impressed, Sorry.

Give it time, incandescent, give it time.  Shyam will come to the fore soon, and be a horrid horrid villain.  Give it time for other stories to be played out, and then we'll see Abhaas shine.  I'm not a fan, but he does make my skin crawl.

BUAJI : I don't want analyze her again. She is another stereotypical character but people like her do exist. She made a very big mistake but at least she is repentant. I hope she does not repeat this particular mistake ever again. No issues with Abha Parmar's portrayal.  I need MORE repentance

MAMAJI :  There is not much too analyze. Please give the actor a proper character. He is getting more lines though which is a good sign. I have never seen him interact with his nephew and niece. Maybe the cv's could show some bonding.  The actor has been busy on Dekha ek Khwab; hopefully now that he is back, he'll develop more, and Mamaji will be a good support for Payal and KKG 

BABUJI :  A loving father but not a good detective and certainly not good with sign language. But I hope he recovers soon. I liked the father-daughter bonding scenes. I want to see him interact with Arnav and Akash, I would also like to see him blast Garima for being such a pathetic wife and a mother and Buaji for being such a disgraceful sister.  THIS WOULD BE A DREAM




Edited by cxw1065 - 21 December 2011 at 6:32am

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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 6:34am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Marybarton

Originally posted by incandescent

Originally posted by Marybarton

I think you have a done a wonderful job. I agreed with everything you said. I find it odd how these thoughtful posts don't get enough views or replies on this forum. Then, if you compare to characters, they topic is shut down. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Thoughts about characters and reflections? I have no issues with the popular posts which are also fun, but I am finding this forum really limiting on other grounds. Hope your topic becomes popular because it is a great one.

I beg to differ that thoughful posts don't get enough views. I have always written analytical posts from the very beginning and I got plenty of views and replies. it is through these posts that I have interacted with many members and became friends. 

I personally think the forum is lacking thoughtful posts these days other than a few. because many members who made thoughtful posts are busy right now.

A lot of member such as current ( she's busy with studies so she's irregular now), momma1128, tanthya, msuniverse, sunaina02 ( short but to the point posts) , opti, honeydew (irregular) , sbk2, DiyaS ( weekly posts )  and a few others regularly make analytical posts and they are all  very popular in the forum and get a lot of views. 

If you are looking for good posts, do check out there posts.

thanks for your reply.Smile


I am just speaking from my experience here thus far. Not complaining, I have felt very welcomed here once I started watching this show. I every time I asked a discussion question, with the exception of one, I have not gotten many views or replies. Whereas my fanfic got a lot more views.

Yes I agree, fanfics do get a lot of views. Many topics probably shut down because some members (maybe not the TM's )  do take it to a level of bashing when they are given the opportunity of criticizing. 

In terms of the forum getting more limiting, I feel I have definitely seen it become more and more limited for the sake of good editing. At this point it has become so limiting that I find it sad. No comparison of characters? I am not really a new member to this forum, I have been at IF since Day One when Vijay first put it up. I had a different account back then. I am a really veteran member and I am saddened to see this compromise. So I suppose the comment is more general.

Yes I agree that the forum is getting more limiting in some ways.

I have read some great posts by you and others. As you say, the forum is not lacking in it. I enjoy them immensely.

thank you for your comments. 

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Posted: 21 December 2011 at 6:39am | IP Logged
Originally posted by kitty25

Originally posted by incandescent

Originally posted by Marybarton

I think you have a done a wonderful job. I agreed with everything you said. I find it odd how these thoughtful posts don't get enough views or replies on this forum. Then, if you compare to characters, they topic is shut down. Isn't that what a forum is all about? Thoughts about characters and reflections? I have no issues with the popular posts which are also fun, but I am finding this forum really limiting on other grounds. Hope your topic becomes popular because it is a great one.

I beg to differ that thoughful posts don't get enough views. I have always written analytical posts from the very beginning and I got plenty of views and replies. it is through these posts that I have interacted with many members and became friends. 

I personally think the forum is lacking thoughtful posts these days other than a few. because many members who made thoughtful posts are busy right now.

A lot of member such as current ( she's busy with studies so she's irregular now), momma1128, tanthya, msuniverse, sunaina02 ( short but to the point posts) , opti, honeydew (irregular) , sbk2, DiyaS ( weekly posts )  and a few others regularly make analytical posts and they are all  very popular in the forum and get a lot of views. 

If you are looking for good posts, do check out there posts.

thanks for your reply.Smile

geet.a, ex community_drive now ultimatebarun also makes good posts



of course. adits7, heedoverheels, serailjunkie, napstermonster, nrp7 (who is missing nowadays), Nargis, Somzz007 and many more make great posts...the list is endless.

Our forum is filled with a talented bunch. Big smile


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