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Posted: 05 June 2012 at 1:44pm | IP Logged
Thanks for clearing it up, donno whats up with @lifeoktv how can they retweet such things

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Posted: 05 June 2012 at 11:58pm | IP Logged
Back after a long time. I'm again trying to catchup with the episodes and frankly speaking they are giving me a headache now.

Where does all these stories come from?

I'll have to read up the updates and posts from the past few days...


My major doubt is this:

From what I've read and known, it was Surapadma who obtained the boon  that he should be killed by Lord Shiva's son. Tarakasur was his brother. I don't know about any sons he had.

Any other versions of Skanda's story says Tarakasur was the main demon to be slayed by Skanda?


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Posted: 06 June 2012 at 12:39am | IP Logged
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We touched on this a bit in the early portion of this thread - forgetting the page# now.  There are North Indian and South Indian versions of this.

In the North Indian version, there was no Surapadman or Simhamukha, only Taraka.  He was the one that Kartikeya killed, and once he was killed, it was over.

The South Indian version is what has Taraka as the 3rd of the brothers, and in that, both he and Kraucha died early, while Simhamukha and Surapadman fell later.

In this serial, they seem to be following the North Indian version, since there's no Surapadman so far, and so it's unlikely that they can just import them from nowhere.  But what they have done is shift Tarakasura so that he lived during the time of Sati, and even tried to contrive her death.  Then during the establishment of the Shakti Peeths and the birth of Parvati, they showed him try to sabotage that as well.  This is definitely off text.

If I find those page# above, I'll let you know.  Or else, if Varaali is reading this, she can fill in the sources.

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Posted: 06 June 2012 at 12:51am | IP Logged
They seem to infuse the storyline with every myth possible. I really don't understand why they have to do this - like Bahrupa trying to kill the baby Parvati, etc.

By the way, is Vidyunmali (and his brothers) mentioned in the North Indian texts too?


Also, they showed Ganga's entry recently and Ganga being in Swarga Lok. Didn't Mahadev promise the river Saraswati that she would join Ganga who flows out of his jata during Sati's post wedding farewell rituals (sorry, I keep forgetting the names of the rituals).


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Posted: 06 June 2012 at 3:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Vrish.

Vibs

We touched on this a bit in the early portion of this thread - forgetting the page# now.  There are North Indian and South Indian versions of this.

In the North Indian version, there was no Surapadman or Simhamukha, only Taraka.  He was the one that Kartikeya killed, and once he was killed, it was over.

The South Indian version is what has Taraka as the 3rd of the brothers, and in that, both he and Kraucha died early, while Simhamukha and Surapadman fell later.

 
Krauncha was a mountain, who was blocking Kartikeya's path when he was on his  way to kill Surapadman 
 
And Surapadman had a son called Bhanugopan, who was killed by Veerabahu, the general of Kartikeya's army


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Posted: 06 June 2012 at 3:51am | IP Logged
Originally posted by varaali

Originally posted by .Vrish.

Vibs

We touched on this a bit in the early portion of this thread - forgetting the page# now.  There are North Indian and South Indian versions of this.

In the North Indian version, there was no Surapadman or Simhamukha, only Taraka.  He was the one that Kartikeya killed, and once he was killed, it was over.

The South Indian version is what has Taraka as the 3rd of the brothers, and in that, both he and Kraucha died early, while Simhamukha and Surapadman fell later.

 
Krauncha was a mountain, who was blocking Kartikeya's path when he was on his  way to kill Surapadman 
 
And Surapadman had a son called Bhanugopan, who was killed by Veerabahu, the general of Kartikeya's army


I am familiar with these details. Didn't Karthikeya himself kill Banugopa? Its been a long time since I read Skanda Purana.

It will take me a couple of weeks to pull out my books. They are sort of inaccessible now.

I was just curious about Vidyunmali shown in this serial. I was wondering if there were texts in the North which mentions him and other sons of Tarakasur.


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Posted: 06 June 2012 at 4:06am | IP Logged
^^^^  No, it was Veerabahu who did it.  Kartikeya did in Krauncha, Taraka, Simhamukha and Surapadman.

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Posted: 06 June 2012 at 11:05am | IP Logged
I have a question. Did Rishi Dadichi exist when Parvati was born? I thought Indra had the Vajra long before Parvati's time. 

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