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varaali IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 22 December 2011 at 1:45am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sattvik

Ansuya - Atri
Wasn't Anasuya  the daughter of SAge KArdama and Devahuti?

Daksh had loads and loads of children!!

That's why he is called Prajapati

.Vrish. Viewbie

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Posted: 22 December 2011 at 3:04am | IP Logged

Thanks for this whole list, as well as your response.

Isn't Dharma the same as Yamaraj - I thought they were/are.  Only one thing below - Kadru was the mother of the dog species, not the Nagas, afaik.  Also, in your list below, you left out Vinati, who was married to Kashyap & mother of Garuda, and Rati, who was married to Kama (although one book about Godesses - albeit a Western book that dealt w/ Greek, Norse, Hindu, Roman and other mythology - described Rati as the daughter of Vishnu/Lakshmi)

This is what I remember for now.

Originally posted by sattvik

@Vrish - I have always thought Varun Dev's wife is/was Maa Varuni

Daughter - Married to
Swadha - Angiras
Smriti - Angiras
Siddhi - Dharma
Buddhi - Dharma (Mother of Bodha)
Pushti - Dharma
Kakud - Dharma
Kriya -
Lamba - Dharma
Maitri - Dharma
Sadhya - Dharma
Kirti - Dharma
- Dharma (Mother of Vinaya)
- Dharma
- Dharma
Ansuya - Atri
Urjja - Vashisht
Diti - Kashyap (Mother of Daityas)
Aditi - Kashyap
(Mother of Adityas/Devta)
Khasa - Kashyap (Mother of Yaksha)
Kalaka - Kashyap
Tamra - Kashyap
Ida- Kashyap
Khyati - Bhrigu
Kshama - Pulaka
Prava - Kashyap
Sambhuti - Marichi
Rohini - Chandra Dev
Kashtha - Kashyap (
Mother of beasts with un-cloven hoofs)

Kadru (Mother of the Nagas)
Danu (Mother of Danavs)

Also says Bahuputra marries two daughters of Daksh Prajapati... Arishtanemi (another name for Kashyap) marries four daughters... :s

My source is the link above that I posted...

Plus you have the Nakshatras that married Chandra Dev...

Daksh had loads and loads of children!!

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...PARiNA... IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 22 December 2011 at 6:39am | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Vrish.

Originally posted by shruti.nil

Raja Daksh said in one of the episodes that Lord Shiva banned his father Lord Bramha from being worshiped
can anyone tell me why did Lord Shiva do such a thing?

In the ACK (Amar Chitra Katha) Elephanta, I read about this.  The story is that Brahma & Vishnu were debating on who is superior, and so, suddenly, a huge tower of light appeared that seemed to have no beginning nor end.  They decided to settle this by finding out the starting points of this tower.  Vishnu took the same form as he did as Varaha, and started digging the earth, hoping to find its root, while Brahma took the form of a kraucha (heron) and decided to fly up and find the apex.

Neither succeeded, but when they returned, Vishnu conceded, while Brahma falsely claimed that he did indeed find the apex.  At this, Mahadev suddenly appeared and cursed Brahma that due to his lie, and that too for purely egotistical purposes, nobody would worship him.  Whereas, Vishnu, for being truthful, would be worshipped along w/ Shiva.  The tower that was there  came to be representative of Mahadev, which is why a lingam is always used.

I have no idea about what the ACK uses for its sourcing, but this partly seems to explain why there are no temples of Brahma, except for the one in Pushkar, in Rajasthan.  I've also read that somewhere in Bangkok too, there is a temple dedicated to Brahma.

One thing that struck me about the episodes in DkDM is the insistence that a lingam be available to enable the worship of Lord Narayan.  I've never seen this in any puja where Narayan is invoked.

1) Lord Brahma created lord Kaamdev and blessed him that he can cupid any person with his power and can wake up a will in him for Kaam. Now lord Kaamdev thought to test that power blessed by Lord Brahma. He shot his arrow on Lord Brahma to test his blessing. So as the blessing of Lord Brahma was true, he got attracted for a lady, who was in relation to his daughter.

Everyone got worried and atlast Lord Shiv came in between both them,regenerated and brought back Lord Bramha's conscience and cursed Lord Bramha and announced that no one in this world will be allowed have physical relations with females who are like their daughter,sister,mother or a higher social relation,any one till the end of this world,committing such crime will be punished who ever it might be,So Lord Bramha,I curse you that you will not be worshiped due to the crime which you were going to do with a lady who is like your daughter.

So this is one of the reason that why there is no temple of Lord Brahma and why he is not prayed by human beings.

2) According to a story in the Shiva Purana (dedicated to Lord Shiva), at the beginning of time in Cosmos, Vishnu and Brahma approached a huge Shiva linga and set out to find its beginning and end. Vishnu was appointed to seek the end and Brahma the beginning. Taking the form of a boar, Vishnu began digging downwards into the earth, while Brahma took the form of a swan and began flying upwards. However, neither could find His appointed destination. Vishnu, satisfied, came up to Shiva and bowed down to him as a swarupa of Brahman. Brahma did not give up so easily. As He was going up, he saw a ketaki flower, dear to Shiva. His ego forced him to ask the flower to bear false witness about Brahma's discovery of Shiva's beginning. When Brahma told his tale, Shiva, the all-knowing, was angered by the former's ego. Shiva thus cursed him that no being in the three worlds will worship him.

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Posted: 22 December 2011 at 9:11am | IP Logged
Khyati married sage Bhrigu.

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cooldudette Senior Member

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Posted: 22 December 2011 at 10:19pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by varaali


It is only in Tiruvananthapuram, is the shivling placed next to the reclining Vishnu. 

It is not there in the temple at Srirangam, where Ranganathaswamy is also in the shayana pose.

Coming back to Ananta Padmanabha Swamy, as the name suggests, Vishnu is reclining on his serpant (Ananta) with a Padma (lotus) emerging out of his navel (nabha) . Obviously, reason for the lotus sprouting is the emergence of Brahma, hence Brahma is also carved into the lotus. This is the basic iconography. The shiva linga near the Lord's drooping right hand is only accidental.

This serial is trying to show that there should be a shivling with every Shayana Vishnu -which is not the case. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that each (Shiva and Vishnu) cannot be offered worship independently - though there may be cases where one is invoked during the worship of the other, depending on regional / sectorial beliefs 

varaali - I was only referring to the pose of Lord AnanthaPadmanabhaswamy...did not mean to generalize the lord in the shayana pose
There are many other temples for lord Ananthapadmanabhaswamy around South India which are not as famous as the one in Tiruvananthapuram which have this pose

Lord Ranganathaswamy is in a different pose - his right hand beneath his head and there is no lotus from his navel, no brahma or shiv ling

For Lord Ananthapadmanabhaswamy, the shiva ling is usually there - it is not accidental
But the main deity of worship is still Lord Vishnu even though there may be a shiva ling near the right hand

What the serial is showing does not seem to be quoted in any puranas or past seems to be some new angle

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Posted: 23 December 2011 at 4:10am | IP Logged

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sattvik IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 23 December 2011 at 7:52am | IP Logged
-still in awe of the huge sets-

I know this may not be true... but whilst reading the Shiv Sahasranaam, Dhruvaya came up. So I was just thinking, since Mahadev was Shri Vishnu's biggest bhakt and vice versa... what if Bhakt Dhruv and all other Vishnu-priya Bhakts were a sort of secret avtar of Shiv Shambhu?

Also, not sure if its right to show any of the Saptarishis not agreeing with each other... Confused
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Posted: 24 December 2011 at 9:53pm | IP Logged
I have a new question.  A lot of people may be familiar w/ the story of Bhrigu's wife sheltering some asuras, in response to which Vishnu beheaded her b4 killing the asuras.  Some accounts have it that she was restored to life.  This story was there in the Ramayan which Sumantra describes to Lakshman after Sita's exile.  IIRC, the name of Bhrigu's wife is not mentioned there.

Question is - was Khyatti the wife that Vishnu killed i.e. did he kill his own MIL?  Or did Rishi Bhrigu have other wives, and one of them happened to be killed by Vishnu?

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