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They seem to infuse the storyline with every myth possible. I really don't understand why they have to do this - like Bahrupa trying to kill the baby Parvati, etc.

By the way, is Vidyunmali (and his brothers) mentioned in the North Indian texts too?


Also, they showed Ganga's entry recently and Ganga being in Swarga Lok. Didn't Mahadev promise the river Saraswati that she would join Ganga who flows out of his jata during Sati's post wedding farewell rituals (sorry, I keep forgetting the names of the rituals).
Edited by Vibhishna - 11 years ago

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Vibs

We touched on this a bit in the early portion of this thread - forgetting the page# now.  There are North Indian and South Indian versions of this.

In the North Indian version, there was no Surapadman or Simhamukha, only Taraka.  He was the one that Kartikeya killed, and once he was killed, it was over.

The South Indian version is what has Taraka as the 3rd of the brothers, and in that, both he and Kraucha died early, while Simhamukha and Surapadman fell later.

Edited by varaali - 11 years ago

Originally posted by: varaali

 

Krauncha was a mountain, who was blocking Kartikeya's path when he was on his  way to kill Surapadman 

 

And Surapadman had a son called Bhanugopan, who was killed by Veerabahu, the general of Kartikeya's army

I am familiar with these details. Didn't Karthikeya himself kill Banugopa? Its been a long time since I read Skanda Purana.

It will take me a couple of weeks to pull out my books. They are sort of inaccessible now.

I was just curious about Vidyunmali shown in this serial. I was wondering if there were texts in the North which mentions him and other sons of Tarakasur.

^^^^  No, it was Veerabahu who did it.  Kartikeya did in Krauncha, Taraka, Simhamukha and Surapadman.

I have a question. Did Rishi Dadichi exist when Parvati was born? I thought Indra had the Vajra long before Parvati's time.  Edited by Vibhishna - 11 years ago

Sati did not do tapasya. She got shiva easily. She had a little ego and prde. She didnt really want to follow the path of aurtarity and selfknowledge. She realised all that during the yajna and decided to give up her body. As parvati she chose the path of tapas. Due to the prolonged meditation she attained divinity and also attained complete self knowledge of being a godess

Vibs Edited by .Vrish. - 11 years ago

Okay, the episode they showed just now about the story of Markandeya, and how he was saved by Shiva from Yamaraj brought to mind another question.

Vrish,

I can refer and get back but will need quite a bit of time to do so. Right now my books are inaccessible and I'm not in the right mindset to analyse the data I can gather. My sincere apologies. Most of the times, I don't have the time to do what I'd like to. I can get back after a while on this issue (a max of 10 days). I think Dadichi gave up his bones before Parvati was born but will confirm and get back on that.

The info I can recall now:

Rishi Dadichi gave up his life probably some time after Tvasta's son (Trishira?) was killed by Indra and in revenge Vritra was created. I read somewhere that Rishi Dadichi was Rishi Atharva's son - not sure of this though. Also, Swarcha and Rishi Dadichi had a son named Pipalada - he was left under the care of his grandmother after Rishi Dadichi gave up his life. Swarcha followed her husband. He tried to take revenge on the Devas but in the end realised his mistake. It was an interesting story.

tptwi,

The best way to understand the answer to your question is not to consider the story shown in this series (DkDM). They've made a big mess of all characters.

As some members have already pointed out, Sati, out of love and affection towards her parents (thinking she will still be welcome in her birthplace) went to meet her parents and ask Daksha why he wanted to insult her husband like this. There, Daksha insulted her husband (and her) so much that she felt disgusted to own/use the body that was born from Daksha and gave it up. Sati loved Lord Shiva with all her heart and with pure devotion. As far as I know, Sati had no problem in living with Lord Shiva as his wife  - the only problem was she insisted that she wanted to go to Daksha's yagya when Shiva forbade her to.

The story I read was like this:

Sati was the last daughter of Daksha and Prastuti. Both of them had performed severe penances to get the mother of the Universe as their daughter. Some versions say that they wanted Lord Shiva as their son-in-law. Accordingly, Adi Shakthi granted their wish and was born as Sati. She grew up in Daksha's palace. Daksha seems to have done yagyas periodically. In one such yagya, (all Gods, Devas, Yakshas, etc. were invited) everyone accept Lord Shiva bowed to Daksha - either as a greeting or with respect. Only Lord Shiva didn't do so. Daksha was angered at this and then became hostile towards anything related to Shiva. Thus, when Sati wanted to wed Lord Shiva, he explicitly refused. He also arranged for Sati's Swyamvar inviting everyone except Shiva. She was devastated at the thought that her lord was not there. She prayed to Lord Shiva and saying 'If my devotion and love is true, this garland should fall on my Lord Shiva' hurled the garland into the air. Lord Shiva appeared and accepted the garland.

Daksha was furious - he told Sati to go away without his blessings and get out of his sight.

Some time later, Daksha prepared for another yagya for which he did not invite Lord Shiva or Sati. It was Rishi Narada who came to Kailash with this news. Sati was upset with her father on not inviting her and wanted to meet her parents and question her father. Shiva tried to dissuade her but she was adamant. In the end, Lord Shiva sent Nandi to accompany her to her father's place.

Daksha insulted Sati and Shiva and Sati unable to bear the insults gave up her life.


Lord Shiva was terribly furious on learning Sati's fate and after her body was shattered he returned to the Himalaya and immersed himself in penances. After Sati's death, Lord Shiva became more hostile than he already was to marrying anyone.


From what I read, it was after this Tarakasur (or Surapadma) obtained the boon that they should be killed by Lord Shiva's son thinking that having lost his wife already it was impossible for Shiva to remarry. Some versions say that Indra and other Devas suggested Himavan to let Parvati serve Lord Shiva. And in their impatience, they convinced Kama to bring them together but Lord Shiva was so angry that he burnt Kama to ashes in an instant.

After this, Parvati thought that she cannot obtain Lord Shiva through only her love. She must do severe penances with utmost devotion too. After many many years of penances, Lord Shiva (after a little test/game) accepted her as his wife.


All these may have been posted already. But I'm putting them here again so that its easier to compare.

Edited by Vibhishna - 11 years ago