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Originally posted by: .Vrish.Don't ask
arrey and i was waiting with abated breadth to hear the answer lolz
Originally posted by: .Vrish.Don't ask
Originally posted by: .Vrish.I once read this story about Ayappan here 3 years ago:The Appaya Dikshitar to whom you have alluded to, was a great Sanskrit scholar, well known for such aphorisms.IIRC what I have read regarding the above story, many many years ago, a sculptor was once commissioned by the local king to carve a statue of Lord Ayyapa. The typical image of Ayyapa has his left hand placed over the left knee and his right hand in the abhaya hasta (aashirwad) mudra) IN this case, when the completed statue was unveiled, the king commented that the right hand was too close to the nose and gave the viewer the impression that the Lord was in some deep thought, rather than in in the usual benign blessing mode. The sculptor did not know how to respond. If he insisted that his image was correct, he would be disagreeing with the king risking the king's ire. On the other hand, if he agreed with the king, it would imply a tacit admission on his part that there was indeed some defect in his creation.The sculptor found an ingenious way out and claimed indeed the king was correct, and he (the sculptor) had been 'inspired' to carve it in such a manner. He also claimed a heavenly voice had 'told' him that when someone discovered what the Lord was thinking about, He would remove His hand from his nose. The sculptor escaped with his outlandish explanation, but the legend lived on for many many years......Until the day Appaya Dikshitar visited the temple. His wit and intelligence were intrigued by this legend and in a spontaneous burst of poetry, revealed what Lord Shasta was musing about. It is claimed that Lord Shasta responded by bringing his hand back to the abhaya hasta mudra .There is another interesting incident in which Appaya Dikshitar's wit and intelligence were involved. Once he accompanied his patron king and queen to a local temple in Kanchipuram where the presiding deity was Lord Varadaraja Perumal (a form of Vishnu) . The priest waved the aarti lamp in front of the God and then brought it to the royal couple . At this point the king remarked that the Lord's face seemed to be looking down rather than facing straight. The king asked Appaya Dikshitar what may be the reason. Appaya Dikshitar looked around for an answer. The sanctom sanctorum where they were standing was in semi darkness and and the light of the flickering lamps made the Queen's jewels sparkle magnificently.It did not take long for Appaya Dikshitar to respond. He said " My king, the Lord seems to be looking down because He is looking at his heart. When He saw the Queen here, He got confused for a moment and wondered whether it was his Lakshmi, who was now standing in front of him."Do I need to say how pleased the king would have been with this answer?Appaya Dikshitar lived in the 16 century
Originally posted by: varaali
Thanks vaarali ,i love this kind of stories ...i have question about Lord VaradaRaja (boon giver ).Right ! it is said that actual deity (Mulavar) is under the temple'sPool water for some reasons .And the ONe who is now is replaced by it is what we are worshiping . So when it happens before Ramanujar period ? or later
Originally posted by: vanadhiThanks vaarali ,i love this kind of stories ...i have question about Lord VaradaRaja (boon giver ).Right ! it is said that actual deity (Mulavar) is under the temple'sPool water for some reasons .And the ONe who is now is replaced by it is what we are worshiping . So when it happens before Ramanujar period ? or later
Originally posted by: varaali
Yes, the Adhi Varadar (original diety) lies immersed in the temple pond. The 10 foot idol is taken out once in 40 years and grand poojas are done. The last time this was done was in 1979.The Moolavar who resides in the temple is supposed to have come from a place called Palaya Sreevaram , near Kanchipuram.Now, I always thought this was so since the very beginning. Do you know if Ramanujar has said anything to the contrary in his Pasurams?
While reading one of the Hymms of Vedanta desika
Tirumagalun tiruvadivun tiruvarulun tellarivu
Marumaiyila maiyumuravu malappariya vadiyarashung
Karumamazhip panippamaippung kalakkamila vagai ninra
Varulvaradar nilaiyilakki lambenana namizhndene
The Lord is ever in the company of his consort; he bears a beautiful body; he is omniscient; his grace is easily obtainable to his devotees; he indwells both pakruti and the purusha; he is omnipotent for he has ruled the entire universe from time immemorial; he stands steadfast without confusion all through his occupation of creation, preservation and annihilation. Like an arrow, I have merged with the feet of the merciful Lord whom I have fixed as my target.
He cleanly states that Lord Varada raj is in standing posture
Some where in verses of early alwars ,I heard they call him Attiyuran,attivaradar ,etc these names only match with Attivaradar (varadar made of Fig tree)who is immersed in Pool water ,
According to some legends During muslim invation only ,the Original deity is hided under pool in order to prevent further damage to old Idol (Like namperumal story in Srirangam)'Since ,he is said to be appeared out of Yagna fire ,He always needed the Fanning seva from devotees ,Even famous Ramanujar also accompanied Thirukachi nambhi in this process .
Since Vendanta Desika belongs 13 th cent which is famous for muslim invasion in and around tamilnadu ,The possibility of AttiVaradar ,being worshipped by Ramanujar (11 th cent )is there ,That's why I asked ,whether you Heard anything like that or not . But Still the stories behind Athi varadar fascinates everyone ,who hears it.Thank u for ur reply .
DSS has a different story. When all the rishis & Devatas prayed to Devi Shakti to protect them from Shumb & Nishumbh, Parvati came there she asked them whom are you praying? At that time Durgama appeared from her, saying they are praying to me. She was fair. After she appeared Parvati's skin turned dark, that's why she was called Kaushiki. Seeing her turning dark, Parvati went for penance. As a result of the penance she turned fair again.
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