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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Missesha

What if Phooli gave birth to a girl child?

As per the track , Bharat's family wanted a vaaris and a vaaris as per old customs will always be a male child, as girls are married off to another to another family.
 
So back to point, what if Phooli produced a girl child, would they consider her as vaaris or would they ask phooli to keep producing till they got a boy? Also, would that mean they would keep first wife's existence in Disguise for all those years, till a boy child is born?
 

 
 
scary thought.  she might have had two girls before a boy.  then she and two daughters tossed out in the street.
 
good their intentions came out in the first child itself and she is rid of these cheap naata in-laws.
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Posted: 12 years ago

Originally posted by: Illyria

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So this issue of Natha Pratha is generating a lot of discussion on the forum and to make everything easier to read and comment on i thought of creating a singular thread to have this discussion on.


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  • <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="2">So what are your views on Natha Pratha?</font></font>
  • <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="2">If Natha Pratha is accepted by both families, is this still a just custom to follow?</font></font>
  • <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="2">Also if its accepted by both famililes, does the mother then still have rights?</font></font>
  • <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="2">What does be done about Natha Pratha?</font></font>
  • <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="2">What repurcussions should there be about people following this?</font></font>
  • <font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"><font size="2">What should happen in the base of Phooli?</font></font>
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Do leave your comments and lets have a constructive discussion about this, please no bashing or use of foul language

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hello dear i am also reident in rajsthan and used to with the customs wich r prevailing till now. In my opinion if u want to give justice to a widow or women left over by husband they shud be properly married with hindu customs. Why naata prath is generated becoz there is strong belief in our society that a woman takes saat pheras in her whole life with one person only. Either she have to sit as widow whole life like that of rajput ladies. Here i have to mention that naata pratha is not followed in upper casts like brahmins, rajputs etc. It is most prevailing in lower casts like OBC,SC,ST. I will discuss it more in my further posts.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Most of these laws are tribal laws which were created to suit specific needs at certain times.For example sati system(Widow burning) and Johar vrat(self immolation by queens during wars) were started during the middles ages when there foreign attacks and lot of wars were going on...The queens used to commit suicide when the king was defeated to save themselves from the attackers and sati system started because widows faced social and financial prob after their husband died...they were both evil customs but at tht time people thought these were best solutions for them...I guess  natha also originated at the same time because of too many widows due to wars...so for those times these laws were useful but now these laws are defunct so i dont think its ok in any situation. Phool's case is pure cheating by her in laws.They have just used naatha as an execuse. Had there not been any naata custom they would hav still got phooli married to bharath and throw her out once she produced a child.

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Posted: 12 years ago

  • ii what are your views on Natha Pratha?
  • one of the most disgusting tradition i've heard in a LONG time.. and i've heard of some really disgusting stuff (from all over the world, not just india)
  • If Natha Pratha is accepted by both families, is this still a just custom to follow?
  • NO! i'm not against widow's moving on but what is wrong with actually getting married! dowry is wrong but the money given in natha pratha isn't?(i know its not in phooli's case but still) then what's difference between prostitution?!
  • Also if its accepted by both famililes, does the mother then still have rights?
  • YES! ma ma hoti hai! jaise baap baap hota hai! no questions asked! i mean its not a child's fault in what condition he/she was born in, so why punish it?
  • What does be done about Natha Pratha?
  • Illegalize it! I know its an ancient tradition but so is slavery and segregation!
  • What repurcussions should there be about people following this?
  • I would say capital punishment except i believe that i am a mere human and death is given only by the Almighty (SWT), so i'll say Jail and Fine to both families if it was consent by both (money and all). If there is a child involved, MOM should get the child with perhaps dad can visit for some time if mom  permits! 
  • What should happen in the base of Phooli?
  • The "husband and family" goes to jail. Whatever amount they are saying was given,  must go to court and phooli! Phooli gets FULL custody of the baby and if she says, then the husband can visit it. 

Posted: 12 years ago
@sar naksh I read Ur post on the other thread and thanks for explaining it and applying it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
Ya i agree with al of you this custom is not more then prostitution in today's society. I have heard about many girls who had 8-9 naatas repeatedly. And have to leave her children at that husband's house only. Now mentalilty is that 'KAAM KHATAM TO BHEJ DO CHORI NE DUJE NAATE PE'.
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Posted: 12 years ago
If society really wants to make widow's life better then widow remarriage is best option then naata.
Posted: 12 years ago
Nath Pratha is sinister and a crime. You cannot use a women as a commodity and throw her out as if she is a paper-cup...

I strongly believe that even in surrogacy, the women who bears the child is hard done by...

If you can't have a kid there are other techniques like a "test-tube" baby and maybe others which i don't know...
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Posted: 12 years ago
My take is the woman here also is not treated with respect due to her but more in terms of a thing that u can easily dispose off...My heart bleeds for Phooli and the lil baby...The lil baby is not even weaned and they separated Mum and child...Phooli was just a rented womb for Bharat and his family😡🤢...Widow remarriage is another thing but this ritual in my POV degrades the dignity of woman
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Posted: 12 years ago
I do not agree with the 'naata' custom as portrayed or practised.  I see it as a modern day surrogation.  As long as both parties make informed decision and agree to it I do not see anything wrong with it.  Also I should add that mother should be compensated for it, adequately.  This also raises  several questions.  What happens if a girl is born?  Or even if it's a boy and is handicapped?  Handicapp may be physical or mental.  Here in this case, Phooli's family has been taken advantage off because of their poor economic condition. 
 
BTW this is a western thinking which does not coincide with our culture.  But there is always a possibilty of finding a middle ground.