OVERDUE ANALYSIS: Thread 2 Link, p150 - Page 58

Originally posted by: sia221

nice analysis.. Though the fact that he slept with Geet only to divert himself is little hard to digest... coz he def had the lusty look n some really dirty thoughts when he was with Geet in the car.. n that was before the car broke down...so I feel it was his sheer pervertness... that he did it...😡

I agree that in the car he was feeling attracted to her and that was sheer perverseness, yes. But I think he felt safe in that nothing really could happen as they were going towards NT and the plan was going fine. He could convince himself that he was just playing the game with Geet and in no time NT would be there to take the reigns. But when the car broke down, he freaked out at such a tempting diversion from the plan. And he did ignore Geet for a while, but at some point, her innocence and trust in him got him into the game again.

So what I am trying to say was that the attraction was there, and he was well aware of it, but he acted on it only to distract himself from his own discomfort on being alone with Geet, which is selfish, and completely depraved, as he is wronging not only Geet but NT as well.

Like I said, to me this is worse than just being a pervert, which he is in any case for even feeling the attraction, as he takes advantage of situations and people to do exactly what is convenient for him at that moment, without thinking about anyone but himself. For me, even his repentance reeks of this selfishness because he just abandons NT in the lurch, after cheating on her, makes her out to be the bad guy and hides under Meera's pallu. Just thinking about it gives me the creepy crawlies. 😡

@ Samana:

When the car broke down.. for a moment..Dev did get frustrated bcoz there was a halt in his plan which was going on so smoothly..in that he even ignores Geet for sometime.. But then as u said.. Her innocence takes over.. So here he takes it as an opportunity to spend the night with Geet..If he was so much afraid of spilling the beans.. So much dependent on NT that her absence made him uncomfortable.. wouldn't he have spoken to NT d moment he was alone??.. But on the contrary.. He CUTS her call.. Which clearly showed his intentions for Geet.. 😕 😕

Now I m not opposing u Samana.. In fact I like this totally new view of seeing the reason for Dev's deed.. So I m just trying to understand.. Of course in the end.. He is one selfish jerk.. Who actually doesn't deserve to live.. After what he did.. 😡Edited by sia221 - 12 years ago

@Sia: There is no such thing as opposing in a discussion like this because we can really only give our views as we can never really know what another person, that too a fictional one, is thinking. 😆

To answer your question, I would say, had NT called when Dev was ignoring Geet after the car broke down, I think he might have picked up but she called after Geet had unconsciously charmed him with her innocence. At that point he was already immersed in the role of the simple guy who wooed Geet and didn't want any interruptions at that point. So what I am trying to say is that he tried to avoid his guilt or discomfort, whatever you want to call it, by convincing himself of the reality of his relationship with Geet at that moment. This is especially evident to me when he says, maybe this is what fate wanted. I mean, how does that make ANY sense?!

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that all these switches in Dev's character happen to a large extent on a subconscious level. In the immediate sense, as far as the decisions he makes go, I think they are mostly whatever he wants to do at that moment, with no thought for anyone or the implications. But I think the complexity lies underneath that make him waver from a set goal so often. To me, this is why he is always looking for a short cut. He has a tendency to get distracted unless he is firmly controlled. Even in Delhi, the plan was to confess his gunah to Maan and he got distracted by Meera and never managed to do it.

Does that make any more sense? 😕

And just to be clear, I am not considering the post-Maaneet wedding Dev in my analysis. That was an entirely different character altogether. 🤢

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Sia: There is no such thing as opposing in a discussion like this because we can really only give our views as we can never really know what another person, that too a fictional one, is thinking. 😆

Another thing I forgot to mention, is that all these switches in Dev's character happen to a large extent on a subconscious level. In the immediate sense, as far as the decisions he makes go, I think they are mostly whatever he wants to do at that moment, with no thought for anyone or the implications. But I think the complexity lies underneath that make him waver from a set goal so often. To me, this is why he is always looking for a short cut. He has a tendency to get distracted unless he is firmly controlled. Even in Delhi, the plan was to confess his gunah to Maan and he got distracted by Meera and never managed to do it.

Does that make any more sense? 😕

Edited by sia221 - 12 years ago

Sia, I just had to reply to you quickly before posting the next episode. I don't disagree with Dev being spineless and immoral but I am saying the complexity of his character lies in WHY he is spineless and immoral. That being said, I like that he isn't a flat character but one that can be analysed in many layers. As for him being a tortured soul, I don't think that is entirely wrong. I believe most people who commit heinous crimes and crimes against humanity are tortured souls, not that this forgives the crime itself, understand. I actually like that in the story so far there are no flat, predictable characters, no characters which can carry the label "bad" as all of them work from certain motivations which to them are justified. Even Brij, in all his craziness wants his family's honour to remain and has convinced himself that he can go to any lengths to ensure this. Like I said, giving a justification and trying to understand a criminal's psyche does not excuse the crime but is interesting to think about.

I think Dev's inferiority complex with Maan and might play a huge role in why he had so many girlfriends and is such a terrible womaniser. He wants that attention and admiration from somewhere and the complete faith that Geet had in him must have been irresistible to someone who has always played second fiddle, first to Maan and then to NT.

To me it is actually more disturbing when you get into the nitty-gritties of the psyche behind crimes than to just plain believe they were pure evil. So when I see Dev do what he does, I automatically search for why he might be doing that because him being evil or a pervert just doesn't cover it for me. We can of course continue the discussion after we do the takes on today's episode which I am about to put up. 😃

Edited by geetaddict - 12 years ago

@Paro: No, let your horses run free! 😆

GEET Episode 26:

This episode I felt belonged to Maan and only Maan.👏👏 I know GC is a very good actor but somehow for me it is the character rather than the actor that I keep falling in love over and over again.❤️ Again I must say that another actor could not have done the same justice to this character like GC did so he definitely is a star⭐️⭐️. I saw a very small scene  from IPKKND while channel hopping. We know the male lead is supposed to be a character similar to Maan and when I saw his face I was thinking what I would think when I see Aishwarya and our own dear Anvesha "trying" to "act" "Maybe if you tried moving your facial muscles a little bit it might help."😆😆 And I heard today that our dear Anvesha is going to "act" in another serial. God help them.😆😆 Oh Maan and Geet what have you done to us. You have spoiled us for anything else.😭😭 I am not able to accept mediocrity anymore. Though I did it towards the end for Geet with the other characters still Maan and Geet kept me happy and satisfied.😳. Days like today I miss them like crazy.

And again have to give it to Geet Handa. She throws his own advice about standing in her own feet at his face and that leaves Maan stunned😲😲. And we get our first eyelock😍 which gets broken no thanks to Munshiji😡. I like the way they both act slightly guilty.😳 It shows that they are very mildly getting aware of the invisible thread of attraction they have for each other.😳

And then of course the scene like Samana said we were all dreading. 😭In her family's presence Geet is not able to think straight but in the company of this no nonsense guy Geet's mind starts putting everything that happened and the evidence before her eyes together. She realizes what Dev's words "Geet is exactly the kind of girl I was looking for" actually meant😡😡. And of course it is too much for her to handle. All her hopes, her dreams, her trust burnt to ashes. 😭😭Now I am not sure if this was just a reaction of shock or also bcos of her condition bcos it looks like now some time has passed. I am sure people who have watched these episodes can clarify that.😕

Somehow I felt Kamya resembles NT more than Dev with her sharp nose. I had one major confusion. Why would Pammi mummy call Canada to know about Maan when it is never indicated that they were all living together in the same house or he even lived in Canada.😕 I thought he was always in Delhi. 😕Or am I wrong?😕 Pammi's eyes even though shocked and nervous looked pretty in that lighting. Again the way she was shown caring for Chote Saab for so many years without having any complaints but then later on was even ready to take his life is again hard to believe. Actually if Dev had continued to be in jail and Pammi had seen him suffering but felt helpless bcos of the lack of money then we could have digested the transformation better. Again NT's final comment on how men in Indian families hardly listen to the women unfortunately is true in many houses like Geet's.😔

This is what makes you fall in love with the MSK. 😍He may seem irritable and prickly in the exterior but even after hearing Munshi's advice he chose to ignore it and help the unconscious Geet. Maybe his transformation was already starting or he was looking forward to the challenge of doing something everyone was scared about.😃 And of course we see him giving Brij the look that would melt ordinary humans. Oh how I love that look on the freeze shot.😍

@ Samana There now I can breathe better.😃 And God know how many times I have asked my son to be patient.😆😆 But alas when it comes to Geet patience is def not my virtue.😳