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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 5:58am | IP Logged
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i am new to this forum dont really know how to go about replying to a particular post

anyhow this really surprises me ...you opinion is urs but common you cant juz say ppl are free to choose any profession and talking againt regression n all that ...

sounds like you  think its fine to choose any profession be a choor dakoo anything you wud call a profession and sounds like ppl like you wudnt mind their daughter to be pick a profession like sunny ,i am sure you wudnt mind this as you so liberal and see this as freedom of ur choice ...



I appreciate your reply.

I'm just shocked at the amount of people who are defending her profession. Dead


honey, ur back to square one!LOL not her profession...her freedom of choice! there is a difference!
i now this is really off topic and i might get slammed right and left for saying this but why is their only freedom of choice when someone bares it all...why is there no freedom for those who want to cover up...why is wearing a burqa always seen as oppression, its their "choice" right?...so let them have the freedom of covering up...Smile...
i am ready for the bashing...but i come in peace.
...please be gentleBig smile

If it TRULY is their choice and not a result of brainwashing or simply a lack of an alternative, then that is acceptable! and i respect that. i have read an article somewhere about a girl, whose mother was American and whose father was a Libyan. She was born and raised in America with and American education and with all American values. However, as she grew up, she learned about the culture of the place where her father came from as well and she, to the shock of her mother, wanted to wear a Hijab. The mother, although shocked, let the girl wear the Hijab. She could not find a reason to say no. the girl wanted to express her modesty and find a different kind of freedom by covering up. THIS is what I call CHOICE! and this is what i respect! there is no oppression, and she had a CHOICE! the mother didn't force her otherwise, nor did the father force her or her mother to wear a Hijab. she also would not have been looked down upon if she had opted not to wear one. As far as I know, women in the middle east, don't have an alternative (please enlighten me if this is not the case). they have to wear one whether they like it or not. if they like it, then great. and if not, they have no choice. and THIS is oppression, IMO.

I do not bash. Sorry you had that notion about me. But I do not bash anyone. But i am always up for a debate.Wink


Well what surpirises me is why ppl so senti about middle eastern muslims...when they dont know the religion and why muslim girls wear hijab and cover them selves...some ppl quickly jump to a conclusion OH thats Opression!!!!!

however such things are not said for nuns who dress up a certain way...becoz of religious beliefs
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i guess one should not point out at religious beliefs n followers as opression...!!!!!!



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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 6:11am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by return_to_hades

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Originally posted by hima_123

For ALL those who are saying that Sunny has the FREEDOM to CHOOSE her profession!! Who the hell is saying that she should be jailed for her profession in the first place...

But DO others have the FREEDOM TO HATE the profession called po*nography?? Do others have the right to even talk about their dislike??? do others have the right to support something they do not want to see in their future generations?? ...or is it against Ms. FREEDOM's human rights for other people to  express contempt, dislike...a profession...that a lot of us WILL not want to see for ANYONE in their family in the next 10 generations...a profession that a lot of us feel should not receive a celebrity status at all!!...I would not even like to see po*nstars..!! I can't remove po*n stars ..but I can definitely ask people to STOP admiring a woman's public demonstrations of sexually immoral acts (sex with multiple people ...and public demonstrations of it...ARE immoral in my opinion--I know a lot of people might get offended by me even calling it immoral)...

Only Sunny has the freedom to make sexual demonstrations...while others dO NOT have the liberty to EVEN CONDEMN it!!

How paradoxical!! The advocates of personal freedom..kinda want to REALLY step on others freedom of expression!!!  Is it really a support of freedom...or is it support of po*nography??


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Quite frankly that post was quite incoherent and illogical.

 

Acknowledging the 'freedom to choose' is a neutral stance. It is a stance that neither condones nor condemns po*nography. Basically it states that whether or not one produces or views po*nography is a personal choice.

 

Does one have the right to disapprove and condemn po*nography? Of course! Does one have the right to find po*nography immoral? Of course!

No one ever denied these rights to anyone.

 

Freedom comes with limitations though. Disapproving or disagreeing with something in no way gives anyone the right to "hate". Flaunting the right to "hate" is implicitly conferring moral approval for racism, homophobia, xenophobia, sexism etc by saying people have the "right" to hate, demean and discriminate against other humans based on their personal opinion. Basic human rights says that you respect the sovereignty of the individual. You may condemn po*nography, but that does not give you a right to "hate" people based on that opinion.

 

Moreover, no one has denied anyone the right to condemn or have their opinion. The crux of the matter really is the "hatred" spewed on account of this opinion and denying basic human freedoms on account of their opinion. People are just questioning the basis of the opinion and the application of the opinion.

                                  

There really is no rational defense for "hate" or "unfair treatment".  But instead of acknowledging that incapability, people accuse others of denying their rights to opinions.

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i guess for those who giving speeches about freedom of this freedom of that it aint a suitable platform for them as they would go on n on about one has freedom of profession  this n that


but others have no freedom of disliking something  or they simply start disliking is hating hating is rasicm this n that


common guys twisting n turning the whole topic its not freedom war u support sunny n her profession suit urself


but we dont !!!! simple n you cant twist it by giving freedom of this freedom of that speech

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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 6:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by hima_123

your well crafted sentences do not seem to contain much logical 'content' in my opinion.
your're saying "Hating" is not someone's personal choice...we're not supposed to "hate" anything--??? By which laws, morals, ethics, code of conduct...you have DEFINED that it is not OK to hate anything...(the very generalization beneath the surface of your statement encompasses every sphere ---murder , terrorism...are we supposed to hate NOTHING???!!)...now don't tell me you were not talking in the context of murder and terrorism...you GENERALIZED your statements to say we "hating is not a right" --and the way you took the liberty to stretch the argument to the context of ...I ALSO take the liberty to stretch YOUR own argument to the contexts of things worth hating like criminal acts, violent acts, corrupt acts .. to demonstrate the invalidity and the hollowness of the authenticity you claim while making such statements----that hate is not a permissible right!! Who gave you the right...to even deny the right of hating..

May I ask which section of  denies the right to hating what our conscious deems to be immoral???

I think hating something ...and expressing that hate...are completely individual rights...in my opinion hating is a GIVEN right especially in context to things our conscious regards immoral!!

 Why can't we even  talk negative what we consider wrong?? Why can't we express opinions about people we consider unethical?? Who even has the right to deny our freedom of expression.

I really do not want to argue with ideas that are just theoretical...unless I find something logically sound content.


I'll borrow some quotes

"Hate the sin, not the sinner" - The Bible

"Judge them not equally. They may all deserve hell, but some of us deserve it sooner than others" - Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter

Modji explained in better layman's terms. You have the right to your opinions and feel strongly, even hate po*nography. But professional choice does not make the character or personality of a person.

Hypothetically, if Anna did some tharki behavior like Sky, you have to put aside your admiration for him and critique him for it.

Hypothetically, if Sunny did something like mediate a fight nicely and avert hurt feelings, you have to put aside your dislike for her and appreciate her for what she did.

Basic point, don't tie everything Sunny does with her career choice. View it in current context. Its the fair thing to do.

I'll leave the debate on notions of po*nography itself aside because that has no bearing on whos who in the house.



you quoting from bible

bible even says po.n..graphy not allowed!!!!!

we dont support the profession ...what ur point ...??

if one, or milions or many countries dont support a  profession ...or even legalise it ...its their choice...one cant force them saying  no its against freedom of choice blah blah ...there are some morals ethics or what ever you call it some follow

in your eyes if you dont mind  and support it saying freedom of choice suit urself!!!

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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 9:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades



I'll borrow some quotes

"Hate the sin, not the sinner" - The Bible

"Judge them not equally. They may all deserve hell, but some of us deserve it sooner than others" - Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter

Modji explained in better layman's terms. You have the right to your opinions and feel strongly, even hate po*nography. But professional choice does not make the character or personality of a person.

Hypothetically, if Anna did some tharki behavior like Sky, you have to put aside your admiration for him and critique him for it.

Hypothetically, if Sunny did something like mediate a fight nicely and avert hurt feelings, you have to put aside your dislike for her and appreciate her for what she did.

Basic point, don't tie everything Sunny does with her career choice. View it in current context. Its the fair thing to do.

I'll leave the debate on notions of po*nography itself aside because that has no bearing on whos who in the house.


Originally posted by sssz



you quoting from bible

bible even says po.n..graphy not allowed!!!!!


Can you cite where Jesus says that? What part of the "hate the sin, not the sinner" did you have trouble getting? Confused

Originally posted by sssz

we dont support the profession ...what ur point ...??


In bold above. LOL


Originally posted by sssz


if one, or milions or many countries dont support a  profession ...or even legalise it ...its their choice...one cant force them saying  no its against freedom of choice blah blah ...there are some morals ethics or what ever you call it some follow

in your eyes if you dont mind  and support it saying freedom of choice suit urself!!!


Do you realize no one is denying your right to dislike a profession, in fact we support your right to choice in that matter? In fact I explicitly said, we'll leave the debate on the profession aside.
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Posted: 17 December 2011 at 6:52pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by return_to_hades



I'll borrow some quotes

"Hate the sin, not the sinner" - The Bible

"Judge them not equally. They may all deserve hell, but some of us deserve it sooner than others" - Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter

Modji explained in better layman's terms. You have the right to your opinions and feel strongly, even hate po*nography. But professional choice does not make the character or personality of a person.

Hypothetically, if Anna did some tharki behavior like Sky, you have to put aside your admiration for him and critique him for it.

Hypothetically, if Sunny did something like mediate a fight nicely and avert hurt feelings, you have to put aside your dislike for her and appreciate her for what she did.

Basic point, don't tie everything Sunny does with her career choice. View it in current context. Its the fair thing to do.

I'll leave the debate on notions of po*nography itself aside because that has no bearing on whos who in the house.


Originally posted by sssz



you quoting from bible

bible even says po.n..graphy not allowed!!!!!


Can you cite where Jesus says that? What part of the "hate the sin, not the sinner" did you have trouble getting? Confused

Originally posted by sssz

we dont support the profession ...what ur point ...??


In bold above. LOL


Originally posted by sssz


if one, or milions or many countries dont support a  profession ...or even legalise it ...its their choice...one cant force them saying  no its against freedom of choice blah blah ...there are some morals ethics or what ever you call it some follow

in your eyes if you dont mind  and support it saying freedom of choice suit urself!!!


Do you realize no one is denying your right to dislike a profession, in fact we support your right to choice in that matter? In fact I explicitly said, we'll leave the debate on the profession aside.


oh well seems like u are a diehard fan and supporter of sunny suit urself...
i am actually bored of this thread and all the essay long replies about  hate the sin not the sinner lolz
profession this freedom that ...lolz

you can carry on ...with your twisted logic i wudnt bother now, bored of your illogical debate about rite to hate no rite to hate sins n blah blah, and bringing in quotes n all lolzzz

making simple opinions of others so twisted and proving yourself to the point of bringing bible in between

totally bored...

have fun ...gud luck!!!


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