why are people so against iccha (Page 3)

rasyafan IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 21 September 2011 at 3:10pm | IP Logged
Dont like ichcha's character because she is too dumb and artificial. She just gains sympathy by showing what a bechari she is. I've no respect for her. All her life she has taken wrong decisions
causing others unnecessary pain and grief. She is indesicive, a weakling pathetic even though she is educated. Damini being uneducated is much better and is capable to take hard decisions. Ok she cud hve revealed Tapu calling jogi when she was getting married to veer but she sacrificed herself unnecessaryly she got married to vansh when she cud see that mai is using her and it is not gud to marry in tapu's sasural she let tapu walk all over her deliberately agn her fault how dare anyone manipulate you?  she new tapu is not carrying veer's child yet agn she hid the fact rather then exposing her she hid from veer who is supposed to be her husband life partner that he is sterile thinking he will get hurt agn stupid decision u r not suppose to hide such important facts from your life partner. When tapu's secret was revealed in front of entire bundela pariwar she did not tell that rathor was tapu's babies father she did not show veer's medical report. How stupid can you get. Ichcha deservd what she got all bcoz of her dumb habits. Sacrifice when you are doing someone some gud but by ichcha's sacrifice who benefitted nobody. Had ichcha had taken tough decisions at the time of her marriage to veer then none of what happened wud hve happened but then Uttaran would have finished a long time back. LOL

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crisps21 Senior Member

Joined: 03 September 2011
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Posted: 22 September 2011 at 6:41am | IP Logged
First and foremost, I must clarify that I am a Veecha fan.. because of the awesome chemistry between those two characters and because of what all they've gone through.

I haven't been watching this serial for the past 2.5 years, but I watched all 650+ episodes in the last couple of MONTHS... so I have a pretty good memory of what Ichha did and what Tapasya did in the serial, as my 'watching experience' is pretty recent as compared to many of you who've been following this serial either from the beginning or somewhere near that.

PLUS, since I became a big fan of Uttaran, I have also downloaded all (most of) those episodes to my own computer and have watched some episodes repeatedly...

Ichha is definitely shown as unrealistically good... It is not possible for a normal human being to be THAT good-hearted no matter how much they love someone!
It was okay to show her trying to hide her good deeds AND Tappu's bad deeds just after the 10-yr leap, because just before the leap they had shown baby Tappu asking for baby Ichha's promise that she won't 'divide' Tappu's father's love and another promise from Ichha to Ammo (which is also shown a gazillion times in flashbacks) ke 'tu wada kar tu babyji ko humesha khush rakhegi'... 

Because of these two promises and the extent to which Ichha went to KEEP those promises, they have shown her go through things that NO NORMAL HUMAN BEING would have gone through and STILL loved Tappu...

So Ichha has her share of dumb things - hiding stuff from her husband just to keep his feelings from getting hurt... hiding the truth from Tappu's parents just to keep Tappu happy - as per her promise to Ammo... were all wrong-doings on her part.

But essentially, whether people agree or not, Ichha is the positive character in this serial and she hasn't been shown manipulating, calculating or being villainous anywhere... at least not deliberately. Not to mention, she didn't have the blessings of a mentor like "Nani".

I mean, I can get annoyed by her too-sweet, too-goody-goody attitude, but FOR THE LIFE OF ME, I cannot understand how people can support a negative character.

I had the shock of my life when I came to this forum and ACTUALLY SAW people being fans of Tapasya and defending her crimes/sins/misdeeds with the weirdest of explanations!!

I came to this forum thinking that I would find people supporting positive things in life... even if they don't like Veer and Ichha, even if they think Veer is brainless/spineless (and a lot worse things I've read about him) AT LEAST they should take the side of things that are positive in life and not vicious, mean, calculating like Tapasya!!
I really was shocked to see how someone can support a negative character so much???

Since I got the shock of my life that there are fans of Tapasya, the other thing doesn't come as much of a surprise, because OBVIOUSLY those who support Tapasya would hate (or at least strongly dislike) Ichha!

Main wo sab reasons parh chuki hoon (aur unmein se kuch reasons se agree bhi karti hoon) jinki wajah se Tapasya ka character negative dikhaya gaya hai... lekin kyunke maine yeh serial 2.5 SAAL ki duration mein nahi, 2.5 MAHEENAY ki duration mein dekha hai, to mere dimagh mein bohat se scenes fresh hain, aur bohat se incidents fresh hain... aur un incidents ko yaad karke mujhe HARGIZ nahi lagta ke Tapasya ke saath koi na-insaafi hui hai!!
Jo kuch bhi usney socha, apne maan-baap ke pyar ko lekar ya 'share' karne ko lekar wo sirf ek illusion tha... Ichha ne kabhi jaan-boojh kar koshish nahi ki usko uske maan-baap se alag karne ki, ya apni taraf karne ki.
Mujhe achi tarah yaad hai ke wo Veer se bhi shadi karne se inkaar kar rahi thi sirf isliye kyunke Veer Tapasya ko dekhne aaya tha... aur wo Nani ke kehne par ek sharab bechney wale se shadi karne ko raazi hogayee thi takeh Tapasya-Veer ke raaste se hat jaye.
KHUD Tapasya ne Veer se jaan churayee... aur phir jab Veer Ichha ka rishta lekar aaye to aise Veer ko 'daan' mein diya jaise Veer par usi ka haq tha.
Yeh sab incidents mere dimagh mein fresh hain... aur jaise hi usne dekha ke Veer Ichha ko expensive gifts de raha hai, and he's romancing her like a true lover, she started getting jealous.
Paisey ki usko koi kami nahi thi ke wo paisey ki laalach mein Veer ko chahne lagti... ALL she wanted was Ichha NOT to get all that happiness because she was a naukrani ki beti living on her "uttaran".

Sorry for going off-topic here, I am quite addicted to this serial and hope they start showing some serious changes in the characters so that both the fan groups stop going at each others' throats every time there's an Ichha-Tapasya argument!!

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tiny15 IF-Stunnerz

Joined: 09 September 2007
Posts: 33679

Posted: 22 September 2011 at 11:52am | IP Logged
@crisps i agree that u've watched this recently & its fresh in ur mind!!but though we r watching it from the start doesn't mean we don't rem. in fact each of the incidents u mentioned we rem it clearly. SmileSmileso i agree wid u that nowhere injustice was done 2 taps!!
even i also get irritated by icchha's 2 much gudness & that 2 wen she gets only brickbats 4 it even from the prsn 4 whom she'd done always gud!!but i can widstand her stupidities bcoz atleast her intentions r never 2 harm any1 intentionally!!and our action's consequences r so vast that we don't know wat"ll cum out of it so its only intentions that matters or makes the action gud or bad!!like in Gita Lord Krishna'd said that humans've only actions not its consequences or results. thats in Lord's hands!!SmileSmile

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