Angie's thoughts - September 15, 2011 - Page 2

Originally posted by: zam123

 Thanks Angie for your thoughts, I love reading yours and Misti's analysis of the episodes because they are so interesting, hum ours and analytical of each characters and the creatives.  Thanks, Zam.  

Before CB whenever I use to watch TV shows and they were badly written or dumbing down of the characters I use to be so frustrated and unhappy that I would stop watching the shows.

Since CB1 I found this forum and am so happy to have you, Misti and others sharing their point of view that it helps to calm me down and see things differently.

  It is true for many of us who never analyzed any Hindi soap this way.  I too started doing this when I joined forum.  Misti has a great sense of humor and that helps in getting calm when they show such nonsense.

The episode continued from where it started yesterday with Dev comparing Radhika to moon and how Radhika - his moon is more beautiful.  Just when he is done and viewers start thinking that now Dev would say something serious to Radhika,  three musketeers (Misti's term from the update and very appropriate) ' Dai, Padma and Gopaldas appear to make sure that no hanky panky is being done here before 17^th of September.  Radhika is shocked and so are viewers.  I was really shocked when they turned up. As if having Barkha pushing Dev aside yesterday was not enough, then guarding Radhika in her bedroom and now these three musketeers appear to make sure no hanky panky happens, so embarrassing even for the viewers.  This is one weird dysfunctional family who would interrupt a personal time of a newly married couple on terrace and would stand there listening to their conversation.  Yes, privacy is hard to get in a joint family, but this...

These two are in love and after a long time spending some personal time together.  Both have been told that they cannot have a relationship prior to Sept 17^th (shubh muharat that wasn't needed for Rohan's SR).  Creatives want any excuse to keep these two apart and not to fulfil the viewer's wish of having just Radev scenes without third person there. Yes, this way they can show some eye gazing scenes to pacify viewers but not give them anything meaningful to talk between them.  At this point,  I am not interested in their SR.  Their scenes in cottage were more romantic to me because there were conversations between the two.  Wonder if we will ever get such scenes again.   

Anyway, liked Radhika's shocked looks and then their blushes.   Anybody would blush but not these three loonies.  By the way,  I still want to ask writers how do these people know that nothing happened between Dev and Radhika on their SR. . Did they announce to the world?  Say when Dada was having an heart attack,  did Radhika try to calm down Dada, "Dadaji, please don't die.  Nothing happened between us.  I stopped him in the middle, we sat on the floor and talk about your favorite Barkha and then that made us sleepy as it would anybody.  If you want,  I promise you that even we stay together,  we will talk about Barkha every night.  So our SR can postpone until the Mahants and society forget who is the real wife and who is the fake one?"🤣 I am cracking up imaging this scene.  Thanks.

Anyway, why are Padma and Dai so surprised to see people.  Many religious people go early to pray to temples.  So somebody was bound to be there.  But why is nobody surprised to see Radhika continuously with Barkha. They have only eyes for Barkha. 😆 Selective sight as Misti mentioned. Also she has sindoor and mangalsutra all the time when she never used to have before.  They know that Radhika was engaged to Dev and that Dev loved her a lot.  So isn't it weird to see them together.  So Barkha is now getting a lot of respect for being RPtain.  Misti, they are going with your scenario where Barkha is going to fall for the power (so Dev is secondary to this power for her.  I am glad about that).   Anyway, then there was the ridiculous scene of Barkha telling the recipe.  No matter how much you don't know how to cook,  anybody would know that garam masala doesn't go into anything sweet and that it would be sugar.  So silly comedy there and also to show that Barkha doesn't know how to do any puja or cook. Found this part irritating but loved Radhika's expression here.   Yes, Radhika's expressions were very good and she was upset that she wasn't able to greet these people as RPtain.  So why was RP sure about Barkha's suitability as RPtain?  It was not because of RPtain qualities he was after but a show piece.  True.  If he knew quality, he would have accepted Chaya and Radhika rather than going after Padma (the one who brought up Rohan) and Barkha (no need to elaborate here).  At least Padma knows the rituals and responsibilities that go with RPtain title. 

\  Probably that would happen only during the ME as that would flip Barkha who wouldn't want to lose her powers. Well seeing the precap it spoils Dev's plan for a SR so he will stop Barkha spending the night with him.  Well, lets see how they show it.  Just hope it is logical.

Dev and Radhika's scene in the bedroom (ignoring all the issues and lack of meaningful conversation between the two) was cute in itself.  As usual, Avinash and Rubina perform in these scenes effortlessly because of their awesome chemistry.  Dev wants to spend time with Radhika probably because now he is officially her husband (at least in the house).  So I take this scene of a guy who is pretending that things are as he dreamed long time ago where they were married with the family accepting Radhika as his wife.  So maybe family's acceptance of Radhika as CB and his wife has freed him for the time being.  So he is acting like an ostrich where Barkha is concerned.  This closing his eyes to their problems would cost him in the future.  Anyway, it was cute scene where Dev tries to delay Radhika and she understands his ploy.  But Radhika here may be shy but she is a willing participant with Dev and has her old spark back in her eyes. 😍Loved Avinash and Rubina's  expressions ' this was so cute and makes it all worthwhile for me.  Yes, both are always very good in such scenes.

While Dev is impatient for his SR,  Radhika mentions that day is going to be special for her as that is Dev's 23^rd birthday.   So finally,  Dev is turning 23.  That is the day for reading the will too.  Are they still going to show the will reading.  I hope so if the story is to remain consistent.  Hmm'so the will is the one where CB gets all the property and power in her name.  Will Dev decide that he has to declare Radhika the true RPtain sooner than later possibility because they would be committing fraud if Barkha takes over from Radhika.  This would be punishable by jail for the entire PF once the truth comes out.  So will that flip Barkha on 17^th because suddenly she would realize that she has tonnes of powers and she is losing all that. Probable ' Barkha likes power and money. When she first came to PB she was impressed with the big house and the luxuries and was very happy to be stay there.   Misti mentioned that long time back too and this would fit with Barkha's character.  So Barkha is no different from Maheswari.  Mahewari pushed the old man down the stairs when faced with losing RP title and everything associated with it.  Barkha would set fire to Dev and Radhika's room?  I think she will probably try to set Radhika only on fire because if Dev is included then she cannot remain the RPtian and have the power. Both are together but getting rid of Radhika is her motive.  This is believable for me based on what Misti has written about Barkha's character.

Then there is the kitchen scene (similar to CB1) where Dev wants Radhika to kiss him publicly before he would eat Radhika's food.  It was a cute scene by itself (again ignoring all the mess). 😍Again I loved this scene and the expressions.  Yes, their expressions were good.  

 

Anyway, acting wise it was Rubi for me followed by Avinash.  Ruby displayed her shock in the first scene very well and then she was this sparkly Radhika who may get shy once in a while but has a lot of spirit.  Avinash was also good in his scenes with Radhika especially in his exasperation with Radhika and then showing her his sulky attitude.  Both of them looked very good today. For me it was Avinash first and then Radhika.  I liked Rubina more because of her expressions in different scenes (with Barkha in the temple, then with Rohan and finally with Dev).  But I liked Avinash too.

Originally posted by: misti73

Originally posted by: bollywoodcrazed

I enjoyed today's episode. I am glad there was very little Barkha especially where the cute scenes with RaDev were concerned. I am glad RaDev were shown alone, their scenes were adorable! It is too bad the CVs couldn't keep it this way instead of adding Barkha to the list of negative characters.

 

Yes, at least there was small mercy that Barkha was only in one scene.  Of course, it is going to change tomorrow and then we may get Barkha fest in ME.

I too believe it is the power that will consume Barkha to turn negative, she'll like the attention and the status. This will have nothing to do with her developing feelings for Dev so that is a good thing but still she is someone who can cause a lot of problems for RaDev

Well, power is also aphrodisiac and she has to get Dev in order to get power.  So Dev is essential for her.

Originally posted by: why6

Friends, again substituting for Misti as she is doing the update. 

 

 

The episode continued from where it started yesterday with Dev comparing Radhika to moon and how Radhika - his moon is more beautiful.  Just when he is done and viewers start thinking that now Dev would say something serious to Radhika,  three musketeers (Misti's term from the update and very appropriate) ' Dai, Padma and Gopaldas appear to make sure that no hanky panky is being done here before 17^th of September.  Radhika is shocked and so are viewers.  Yes, privacy is hard to get in a joint family, but this...

I tell u Angie!!, the scene looked so awkward with GD, Dai( okay i am fine with Padma though). I guess CV's are wantingly making viewers to run away from the TV.

These two are in love and after a long time spending some personal time together.  Both have been told that they cannot have a relationship prior to Sept 17^th (shubh muharat that wasn't needed for Rohan's SR).  Radhika is a responsible person and who would sleep together on an open terrace where anybody could walk in.   Do these people not think that they could have walked on Radhika and Dev kissing each other or something intimate?  Are they voyeurs?  ...Well, I guess that is possible with Gopaldas having Maheswari as a wife,  Padma having Hari for 10 months (or 2 months assuming he had at least some honor to have only one relationship at a time) and then finding out that she was the mistress, and finally Dai who was mad about Dada but probably Dada never gave her a second look (do want to see a picture of Dadi now).  But still...Dev needs to move out from this house and find a small house just for him and Radhika.  He can still support them financially but need to be away from this intrusive family.

I hope we dont get these types of scenes next time. Seriously!!!

Anyway, liked Radhika's shocked looks and then their blushes.  Anybody would blush but not these three loonies.  By the way,  I still want to ask writers how do these people know that nothing happened between Dev and Radhika on their SR.  Did they announce to the world?  Say when Dada was having an heart attack,  did Radhika try to calm down Dada, "Dadaji, please don't die.  Nothing happened between us.  I stopped him in the middle, we sat on the floor and talked about your favorite Barkha and then that made us sleepy as it would anybody.  If you want,  I promise you that even we stay together,  we will talk about Barkha every night as that would make us sleep.  So our SR can postpone until the Mahants and society forget who is the real wife and who is the fake one?  Then they won't care who is characterless, who is RPtain, who is brother's wife and so on." 

😆 😆      

So that's why Dada got revived so quickly in one hour just to have another heart attack after Mansa told him gleefully about the childhood wedding (Bless you Mansa for this.  Now can you do something about Barkha too?  All Dev and Radhika do is praise her every night.  We the viewers are sick of all these lines).

 

Anyway, in this scene it seemed that Padma, Dai and Gopaldas were made to look like Dadi, Vaishali and Birju who were always interrupting Dev and Radhika.  While in CB1, it was cute up to a point because it suited those characters and it was never in your face.  Here, it seemed creepy with three listening to Dev telling something personal to Radhika in their dream world.  In fact, if somebody had to intrude why didn't they ask Rohan to come there?   At least we could have got glaring furious Dev and Radhika giving Rohan a stern look.

Angie plz dont comapre them to CB characters, then dont even have any resemblance.

Oh well'then there was the temple scene with Madam Barkha (thankfully she wasn't in between Dev and Radhika today ' small mercies until the ME).  So Radhika does the puja and then gives her sindoor from her maang.  This is a temple.  Why can't Radhika give sindoor from one of the thalis to Barkha and ask her to apply it herself.  This continuous wedding of Radhika and Barkha is now irritating me.

I hate it when Radhika does that, who in the world puts the sindoor from their maang, kyun temple mein sindoor ki kami reh gayi thi kya, ki woh apne maang se sindoor nikaal ke laga rahi thi?

Anyway, why are Padma and Dai so surprised to see people.  Many religious people go early to pray to temples.  So somebody was bound to be there.  But why is nobody surprised to see Radhika continuously with Barkha. Also she has sindoor and mangalsutra all the time when she never used to have before.  They know that Radhika was engaged to Dev and that Dev loved her a lot.  So isn't it weird to see them together.  So Barkha is now getting a lot of respect for being RPtain.  Misti, they are going with your scenario where Barkha is going to fall for the power (so Dev is secondary to this power for her.  I am glad about that).   Anyway, then there was the ridiculous scene of Barkha telling the recipe.  No matter how much you don't know how to cook,  anybody would know that garam masala doesn't go into anything sweet and that it would be sugar.  So silly comedy there and also to show that Barkha doesn't know how to do any puja or cook.  So why was RP sure about Barkha's suitability as RPtain?   At least Padma knows the rituals and responsibilities that go with RPtain title.

i wont repeat the recipe act😕,  dont tell Barkha dont know the taste of Garam masala( atleast she eats it right) that she thought it will used be in a sweet dish...she looked stupid if i may say!.

liked Radh's reactions, though she smiles but not wholeheartedly, she was very uncomfortable. ( for what i noticed)

Is Radhika thinking how they are continue with this charade in future?  What if RPtain is called for some puja?  Will Radhika be performing it in ghungat?  Wasn't Dai saying that earlier?  This whole RP family deserves to be kicked out for such deception.  No one including Dev and Radhika are worthy of becoming RP and RPtain (at least at this point).

Mercifully, that was end of Barkha for today.  Then there was a silly scene of red peppers being spread in the living room and the entrance (why is that?)  I guess it was to show this comradarie between Dai, Padma and Radhika who has once again become the favorite DIL.  So when Barkha would be torturing Dev and Radhika, these two would be sympathizing with her (similar to Dadi and Vaishali).  Never mind that these two wanted Barkha just few days ago and none fit Dadima of CB1.  Luckily,  Padma and Dai run away after a short while.

Padma ans Dai  it looked so silly!!!

Then Rohan comes in and sees Radhika having fun.  He comes behind her and stares at her.  Radhika senses him and turns to him and they have awkwardness between them.  I liked this scene because this is how two people where one forced the other to act as his wife would react when they are alone for the first time.  Also Radhika tries to pull her pallu to hide herself and doesn't turn to face Rohan.  This would be a natural reaction of somebody who knows that this person still has feelings for her and had wanted to rape her but she has to tolerate his presence as he is her husband's brother.  Now this scene would have been funny if Dev had come there and glared at Rohan for daring to talk to Radhika.  In any case, Rohan apologizes.  Radhika doesn't give him her forgiveness (thank you creatives for that), but just tells him simply that atonement is best and his staying there would make sense if he takes on his responsibilities.  She calls him formal "Aap" rather than disdainful "tum" she had used before.  Since Rohan is accepted back by the family due to being Padma's son, she is giving him that respect that she would have given to her husband's older brother.

 Angie i liked this scene( if i can this was the sane scene which was watchable)...Liked Radh's reaction and her sterness, even i thought how would be be if Dev comes now, what will be his reaction?? i did thought he'll come, but...?

 

So is this the road for redemption for Rohan?  Would he try to change at one point especially when he realizes that Radhika is being tormented by Barkha?  So seeing his mirror image in Barkha could change him as it affects Radhika.  Anyway, for now he just stares at her and has a certain look.  He gives a look when Radhika is called to take Dev's phone call.

Then there are scenes of Dev and Radhika which are the highlight of the show for most viewers.  Dev is now acting like Dev of CB1 who doesn't know that he has a fake wife outside in the world with whom he is supposed to perform RP duties.  So Dev is not shown thinking of any plan to extract himself out of this mess.  Probably that would happen only during the ME as that would flip Barkha who wouldn't want to lose her powers.

exactly my thoguhts, i too did thought why was he behaving like the Dev who used to get excited with Dadi( Dev was always very childish to Dadi, he makes the immature behavior beccause his Dadi pampers him a lot)

Dev and Radhika's scene in the bedroom (ignoring all the issues and lack of meaningful conversation between the two) was cute in itself.  As usual, Avinash and Rubina perform in these scenes effortlessly because of their awesome chemistry.  Dev wants to spend time with Radhika probably because now he is officially her husband (at least in the house).  So I take this scene of a guy who is pretending that things are as he dreamed long time ago where they were married with the family accepting Radhika as his wife.  So maybe family's acceptance of Radhika as CB and his wife has freed him for the time being.  So he is acting like an ostrich where Barkha is concerned.  This closing his eyes to their problems would cost him in the future.  Anyway, it was cute scene where Dev tries to delay Radhika and she understands his ploy.  But Radhika here may be shy but she is a willing participant with Dev and has her old spark back in her eyes. 

While Dev is impatient for his SR,  Radhika mentions that day is going to be special for her as that is Dev's 23^rd birthday.   So finally,  Dev is turning 23.  That is the day for reading the will too.  Hmm'so the will is the one where CB gets all the property and power in her name.  Will Dev decide that he has to declare Radhika the true RPtain sooner than later because they would be committing fraud if Barkha takes over from Radhika.  This would be punishable by jail for the entire PF once the truth comes out.  So will that flip Barkha on 17^th because suddenly she would realize that she has tonnes of powers and she is losing all that.  So Barkha is no different from Maheswari.  Mahewari pushed the old man down the stairs when faced with losing RP title and everything associated with it.  Barkha would set fire to Dev and Radhika's room?  This is believable for me based on what Misti has written about Barkha's character.

I loved the cute scene where Radh pins the Badge on his coat and Dev stares at her lovingly...that was the cuttest scene...Avinash and Rubina were brilliant in that scene...
but though i didnt like Dev's portrayal as him being so excited...it didnt go with the flow of the situaiton. But i liked Radh, she was composed.

Then Dev leaves and is on phone with Radhika where he wants her to tell him that she loves him (Rohan had the same dream and Dev had become furious on listening to him describing that.  He had quickly left to meet with Muth people after that).  She would have told him if it wasn't for Padma and Dai who are always present.  Dev, now you can give her that cellphone that she refused after the engagement.  She won't refuse it now. 

Then there is the kitchen scene (similar to CB1) where Dev wants Radhika to kiss him publicly before he would eat Radhika's food.  It was a cute scene by itself (again ignoring all the mess).  Wouldn't mind seeing it as the look on Rohan's face would be comical.  BB would be smiling with satisfaction because she wants Dev and Radhika to be together now and that too publicly.  BB, you go girl!  Mohini is now Radhika's buddy again for the time being.

Overall, it was not a bad episode.  Of course, we are not going to get any meaningful scenes between Dev and Radhika for some time now.  But as long as the focus was not on Barkha today, I was happy.  Just one question to creatives.  Do all female characters who are negative or are going to turn negative not know cooking or rituals etc.?   Is it because the ideal DIL is supposed to know all cooking and puja stuff and the one who sacrifices everything for the family (even her husband)?  Can you once show something progressive?  I would like Radhika to be shown using Dev's laptop and helping him with financial matters and such.  Afterall, she is educated and need not be in the kitchen all the time.

the scene were cute but didnt go with the flow, which was very hard to accept.

 

Anyway, acting wise it was Rubi for me followed by Avinash.  Ruby displayed her shock in the first scene very well and then she was this sparkly Radhika who may get shy once in a while but has a lot of spirit.  Avinash was also good in his scenes with Radhika especially in his exasperation with Radhika and then showing her his sulky attitude.  Both of them looked very good today. 

Perforamances were good, Loved watching them, Dev was cute, Radhika had calm and composed expression.

Rubina was great today.

Now the precap:  So even the Mahants know that Dev didn't have SR with his wife.  How ridiculous is that?  They are dictating the muhurat and place for such happy occasion (sarcasm here).  Will they be present outside to make sure that SR happened?  Will they be next asking Dev for a proof?  CB creatives take such things to the height of ridiculousness. 

the precap couldnt agree more with ur line.

Now once that place is set on fire by Barkha, would these Mahants and family still think of such muhurats in future.  Apparently, it is not auspicious because if it was, nothing like this would have happened.