Originally posted by koolsadhu1000Tiny ...
My viewpoint is totally different than yours . I see this serial with my viewpoint .
i agree on this!!
I do not even want to get into an argument where I want to justify my viewpoint as correct and yours as wrong . I feel , to each his own . I totally respect yours even if we differ .
i m also of the view that ppl've difft POV but still theres dif, btn gud & bad!!
That said ...I wish to make some things clear coz I feel that u misunderstand my posts .
tiny , nowhere am I saying IMV is a great person or that he does 'PUNYA" . Infact everywhere I say that IMV is the bad guy . But if you really want my opinion ...IMV is neither the hero nor totally a villain . He is an anti hero . For the first time , an Indian serial has dared to show something new ...it has built its story around an aging anti hero . Without IMV , this serial falls . He does shocking deeds but he fascinates at the same time . WHY he does them ...as explained by HIM is the fascinating factor for me and I notice even to some others .
i agree it might b facinating but defntly doesn't've higher place than moral values!!
I have never said being middle class is BAD . I come from a middle class background myself and my father ran a house of seven entirely on one salary .I respect middle class values intensely . Infact I am PROUD of them . When I said 'thrust middle class values' on Rupal ...I mean making an issue of middle class values and forcing it down some one's throat and not allowing that person to dream anything different other than the normal dreams of a middle class person . It is rare that a middle class person decides to be an actor or a business man . Its not common . Most of them study , get jobs , take on responsibilities. I applaud that . But sometimes some rare one does dream differently . I applaud that too .
i'd already asked sorry 4 misunderstanding. may b u'd misunderstand manhar & jyotsna's intentions 2. atleast wat i see is they never try 2 thrust them down her throat but they try 2 make her see their point. but she refused & she wants 2 live comfortably & it was clear from her outburst wen manhar's family decided 2 go away!! and they never asked her not 2 dream of bcuming business woman as they also support devki but the way she has chosen is totally wrong.
i know 1 thing & its even authored by sum author that consequences of our actions is so wide & vast that we never know wat "ll happen is gud or not. so here only one's intentions matter which decide that that action wa sright or wrong!!
and i also appluad those prsns who achieve sumthing despite from middle class. though i've sum respect 4 Tatas or Ambanis 2 make it big esply Dhirubhai Ambani but still they r not my role model. they"ll b defntly from the ppl in jobs whether govt. or pvt.
I do not think being a muncipality school teacher is something faltoo or bad either . If someone wants to be that , very good . But there may be someone who does NOT want to be that . Even THAT is good .
then why rupal blasted sonal 4 letting them live in less comfortable place?if she didn't want 2 b teacher & wants 2 b business woman then its ok but she shudn't've left her family wen they needed her support.
Clearly I have mentioned that I think teaching is a noble profession . So is being a priest . These professions have , in my opinion a spiritual base . They are not ordinary at all .
i agree though i m myself can't teach any class as i find it difficult 2 make understand ur point 2 students though it may b of the lesson or chapter!!
I don't know from where u got the idea that I look down on middle class people, values and teachers ...I never said that . What I said was I don't look down on those aspring to be rich as something bad .
IMV's bad deeds do NOT justify Viraj's yellow journalism . Two wrongs do NOT make one right . Like Teaching , journalism too is a noble profession . I have been in journalism . What Viraj is doing is SLANDER . Thats the term . Before printing something u have to take the permission of the source . Without verifying with Devki or Sonal he printed it just like that ...That paper will be closed down if it is sued for millions of rupees for defamation by a business tycoon .
though i agree that two wrongs can never make one right but thats also true in case of IMV. and though he shudn't printed it widout devki or manhar's family's permission but in case of IMV i don't find it bad or wrong. as i believe in Lord Krishna's teachings that 2 stop the adharma from being victorious over dharma if sum1 has 2 employ wrong means then its right & worth the hundred Punyas!!
and bat sueing thats up2 show's director wat he"ll show abt the IMV's rxn!!
Viraj can indeed PRINT it , but with PROOF that can back him up .Otherwise Viraj is defaming not just IMV but destroying peace of full Virani house and can cause great loss to the OWNER of that newspaper . This is not right as Viraj is merely a chief reporter , not the owner or editor . THAT was my point , not that IMV is doing PUNYA .
yeah hes doing harm 2 his newspaper's owner & he hsud really b careful of IMV!!
I have ALREADY said that Rupal not learning business has been put on hold due to Devki track and that Rupal explained that she came back to learn how to make MONEY . CVS have currently decided to focus on Devki .
may b its on hold but wen they can show nirali opting 4 horse race betting carrer though in tit-bits then they cud'd shown rupal also getting sum tips from IMV but no shes always shown sitting lesiourly sipping tea or coffee or having food wid whole of family or playing wid sid's kid or chatting wid nirali!!
I do NOT see Rupal as mean and selfish AT ALL .
i don't agree on it as i find her quite a selfish gal!!
I do NOT see IMV as Count Dracula either .
i may agree that IMV isn't Count Dracula & i simply wrote in reply abt being sadhu!!
About Manhar's ethics . Like u , many from my family r government employees too . When one sits on a jury or an enquiry commitee or any important government commitee , he or she is expected to be ULTRA NEUTRAL . And if he or she faces a situation where that is compromised as he has to pass a judgement on family members , he can easily excuse himself by giving written statement to superiors , asking them to excuse him from that commitee as it puts him in a difficult and compromising position .Someone else can easily do that job . This is not running away from duty but infact is laudable from an ethical point of view . And since MASTER's ethics r thrashed around like nobody's business in this serial , i pointed this out .
i don't agree on this point as i'd seen so many ppl who r in govt jobs & wen sum of their relative or frnds appear 4 the interviews etc. they don't & can't excuse themselves. u can also show ur ethics by choosing the best among the ppl who came 4ward 4 interview etc.!!
and whereas manhar is concerned he didn't've 2 choose btn IMV & sim oder prsn but among 2 of his family members & he made it clear 2 IMV why committee'd chosen devki's proposal!!
I don't think this serial aims at showing anyone good or bad at all . It merely shows two different parallel tracks of thinking ... 2 different types of SOCH . Capitalism and materialism has its own thought process and so does idealism . It is this tussle that is fascinating to watch and We r merely commenting on it , thats all .
i think all 3 idealism, capitalism& materialism shud b in balance. i m not saying 4 having ideals u shudn't've capital but 4 money moral values & ethics shudn't b compromised!!
Lets agree to disagree on this one .