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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 8:13am | IP Logged
 Problem here with the people is its Dev of previous one they are connected  and do not understand this ruthless  and rude behavior of his with Radhika with no connectivity...If it would have been first show with both of them with this story then,  there would have been no problem ...Creatives have to show more of Dev point of view for his behavior so that viewers could understand his reasons for behaving this way with Radhika , does not matter if they are separate  but needs yesterday  kind of emotional scenes , when he was hurting her intentionally...Viewers should also feel bad for him and feel his pain ...In fact  talked to two opposite kind of people , reaction was same , not connected with this  Dev as you already have mentioned in some post ,  viewers should be emotionally attached to this Dev ...Now Creatives are doing the efforts to bring back Dev from his ivory tower, and there is need to  be his softening expressions  when alone.or thinking about her ...


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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 8:14am | IP Logged
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Yes but since they showed phusical abuse and Dev doing it on Radhika, hopefully they will continue with the last scene and show Dev breaking down in his room...to let the audience connect with him and understand his issues and POV.

I hope they continue with the scene too.  The scene ended with Dev admitting his love but still not an explanation for his behavior.  Now according to SBB, Dev did it deliberately so that Radhika starts hating him and forget him.  But it didn't come across like that at all.  They showed him thinking that he hated Radhika the previous day after Maheswari told him about the conversation with the lawyer.  So that combined with his other issues made it seem that he genuinely got angry and lost control.  Radhika was too shocked to react after that initial accusations he threw at her.  His anger seemed too impromptu for him to plan something like this.

So again the explanation is that he is not able to keep himself away from her and hence is subconsciously trying to make her hate him so that she stays away from him.  So if that is the case,  they need the extension of that scene where he expresses remorse for his behavior and admits to himself that it was his intention to do this as otherwise Radhika will not stay away from him due to her faith that has been with her for 12 years.

 

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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 8:39am | IP Logged
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Yes but since they showed phusical abuse and Dev doing it on Radhika, hopefully they will continue with the last scene and show Dev breaking down in his room...to let the audience connect with him and understand his issues and POV.

I hope they continue with the scene too.  The scene ended with Dev admitting his love but still not an explanation for his behavior.  Now according to SBB, Dev did it deliberately so that Radhika starts hating him and forget him.  But it didn't come across like that at all.  They showed him thinking that he hated Radhika the previous day after Maheswari told him about the conversation with the lawyer.  So that combined with his other issues made it seem that he genuinely got angry and lost control.  Radhika was too shocked to react after that initial accusations he threw at her.  His anger seemed too impromptu for him to plan something like this.

So again the explanation is that he is not able to keep himself away from her and hence is subconsciously trying to make her hate him so that she stays away from him.  So if that is the case,  they need the extension of that scene where he expresses remorse for his behavior and admits to himself that it was his intention to do this as otherwise Radhika will not stay away from him due to her faith that has been with her for 12 years.

 


 Agree with you Angie , his only saying that he loves Radhika does not  excuse his ruthless behavior with Radhika ,this scene needs to be continued , to show his remorse and himself hurting because of that ...Whats the use of all this reasoning for his behavior in the SBB or any other this kind of show , have to be seen in the actual show where viewers can understand his behavior ...Angie its always a pleasure to read your  comments and specially when its counter comments with Misti or others ...

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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 9:15am | IP Logged
Originally posted by neerjashingla

 Problem here with the people is its Dev of previous one they are connected  and do not understand this ruthless  and rude behavior of his with Radhika with no connectivity...If it would have been first show with both of them with this story then,  there would have been no problem ...Creatives have to show more of Dev point of view for his behavior so that viewers could understand his reasons for behaving this way with Radhika , does not matter if they are separate  but needs yesterday  kind of emotional scenes , when he was hurting her intentionally...Viewers should also feel bad for him and feel his pain ...In fact  talked to two opposite kind of people , reaction was same , not connected with this  Dev as you already have mentioned in some post ,  viewers should be emotionally attached to this Dev ...Now Creatives are doing the efforts to bring back Dev from his ivory tower, and his softening expressions  when alone.or thinking about her ...


Yes the channel and PH walked into a minefield by giving the protagonists the same names as the hugely popular first season and also maintaining similar theme ...if the characters had different names with completely different surrounding then it might have been ok...but here Dev is competing with Dev of season one and audience might find him lacking specially if they are not able to remove Dev of season one from their minds. That is why both the characters POV and their emotions needs to be shown for the audience to again connect with the leads...without the connection the audience might leave and this time I am talking of the core audience.

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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 9:36am | IP Logged
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Yes but since they showed phusical abuse and Dev doing it on Radhika, hopefully they will continue with the last scene and show Dev breaking down in his room...to let the audience connect with him and understand his issues and POV.

I hope they continue with the scene too.  The scene ended with Dev admitting his love but still not an explanation for his behavior.  Now according to SBB, Dev did it deliberately so that Radhika starts hating him and forget him.  But it didn't come across like that at all.  They showed him thinking that he hated Radhika the previous day after Maheswari told him about the conversation with the lawyer.  So that combined with his other issues made it seem that he genuinely got angry and lost control.  Radhika was too shocked to react after that initial accusations he threw at her.  His anger seemed too impromptu for him to plan something like this.

So again the explanation is that he is not able to keep himself away from her and hence is subconsciously trying to make her hate him so that she stays away from him.  So if that is the case,  they need the extension of that scene where he expresses remorse for his behavior and admits to himself that it was his intention to do this as otherwise Radhika will not stay away from him due to her faith that has been with her for 12 years.

Yes and not only that on monday/tuesday Dev had a monologue saying that Radhika is taking advantage of the family...now that could be that he genuinly feels that she is doing it, because they do show him getting angry when Radhika is receiving the gifts...or he is projecting his guilt on Radhika...I mean he is actually feeling guilty that Radhika is doing all this and accepts somewhere inside him that it is also his fault for the way Rohan is...then he got angry when Maheshwari told him about Rohan and will...now that could also be that he is genuily angry at Radhika or he is again projecting the anger that he feels at himself on to Radhika...that lead to yesterdays episode...where he reacted vilolently and told her some awful stuff and physically abused her...now again that can be because he is genuingly angry either on himself that has been projected on her or on himself or its an act ..then he breaks down...that might be because he is sorry and angry at himself for hurting Radhika or he is being pulled apart between Radhika on one side and dadaji on the other side...the way Dev reacted his anger was spontaneous and not well thought of...and thats why to  me he was genuingly angry and it was not an act. Later on he goes on to accpet that he loves her, but if he is putting on an act then they need to continue with the last scene explaining the reason behind his behaviour. Mainly because his anger in dadajis room is clashing with him putting on an act.In any case they need to contiue with the last scene to explain his reasonings...whether genuine anger of an act, otherwise again the confusion will continue. So I will wait for what they show on monday.

 


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Yes but since they showed phusical abuse and Dev doing it on Radhika, hopefully they will continue with the last scene and show Dev breaking down in his room...to let the audience connect with him and understand his issues and POV.

I hope they continue with the scene too.  The scene ended with Dev admitting his love but still not an explanation for his behavior.  Now according to SBB, Dev did it deliberately so that Radhika starts hating him and forget him.  But it didn't come across like that at all.  They showed him thinking that he hated Radhika the previous day after Maheswari told him about the conversation with the lawyer.  So that combined with his other issues made it seem that he genuinely got angry and lost control.  Radhika was too shocked to react after that initial accusations he threw at her.  His anger seemed too impromptu for him to plan something like this.

So again the explanation is that he is not able to keep himself away from her and hence is subconsciously trying to make her hate him so that she stays away from him.  So if that is the case,  they need the extension of that scene where he expresses remorse for his behavior and admits to himself that it was his intention to do this as otherwise Radhika will not stay away from him due to her faith that has been with her for 12 years.

Yes and not only that on monday/tuesday Dev had a monologue saying that Radhika is taking advantage of the family...now that could be that he genuinly feels that she is doing it, because they do show him getting angry when Radhika is receiving the gifts...or he is projecting his guilt on Radhika...I mean he is actually feeling guilty that Radhika is doing all this and accepts somewhere inside him that it is also his fault for the way Rohan is...then he got angry when Maheshwari told him about Rohan and will...now that could also be that he is genuily angry at Radhika or he is again projecting the anger that he feels at himself on to Radhika...that lead to yesterdays episode...where he reacted vilolently and told her some awful stuff and physically abused her...now again that can be because he is genuingly angry either on himself that has been projected on her or on himself or its an act ..then he breaks down...that might be because he is sorry and angry at himself for hurting Radhika or he is being pulled apart between Radhika on one side and dadaji on the other side...the way Dev reacted his anger was spontaneous and not well thought of...and thats why to  me he was genuingly angry and it was not an act. Later on he goes on to accpet that he loves her, but if he is putting on an act then they need to continue with the last scene explaining the reason behind his behaviour. Mainly because his anger in dadajis room is clashing with him putting on an act.In any case they need to contiue with the last scene to explain his reasonings...whether genuine anger of an act, otherwise again the confusion will continue. So I will wait for what they show on monday.

 
Misti, you are absolutely right.  The anger was spontaneous and a result of a lot of his conflicting feelings.  Even though there is no monologue, logically for me this is the projection of his own guilt as it is easier to blame Radhika than to look at himself because as you wrote several times in last few days that this means questioning everything he has been led to belief or even taught by Amba for that matter.  

Now the new promo talks about Dev becoming pleasant to Radhika. This action of his is a catalyst for that because he has to know that he went too far. So again if they just cut this scene and suddenly he is smiling at Radhika who is also happy won't be natural.  There has to be a self-retrospection here and also at least have to realize that he was blaming Radhika for something that wasn't her fault.  He has to understand her misery and probably this physical abuse (because it is contrary to his nature or at least I hope it is) has to eat him up alive with remorse. He should not be able to move forward until he apologizes to Radhika for this.

But again, this intentional plan of making Radhika would be a change in the script and does not go with the previous episodes and all his thoughts shown so far.  Now the question is the sudden change in his behavior.  Is it because the audience are getting repulsed by Dev and they had to change his character?  If audience are getting repulsed, I don't blame them.  As Misti said, fans are comparing him with Dev of CB1 and here no perspective was ever given and they made his thoughts so one-sided (only thinking of Rohan as he wasn't even talking about Dadaji at that time) that he started coming across as extremely selfish and self-centered who liked to blame Radhika for his wrong actions.

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Posted: 21 May 2011 at 5:47pm | IP Logged
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Misti, you are absolutely right.  The anger was spontaneous and a result of a lot of his conflicting feelings.  Even though there is no monologue, logically for me this is the projection of his own guilt as it is easier to blame Radhika than to look at himself because as you wrote several times in last few days that this means questioning everything he has been led to belief or even taught by Amba for that matter.  


Now the new promo talks about Dev becoming pleasant to Radhika. This action of his is a catalyst for that because he has to know that he went too far. So again if they just cut this scene and suddenly he is smiling at Radhika who is also happy won't be natural.  There has to be a self-retrospection here and also at least have to realize that he was blaming Radhika for something that wasn't her fault.  He has to understand her misery and probably this physical abuse (because it is contrary to his nature or at least I hope it is) has to eat him up alive with remorse. He should not be able to move forward until he apologizes to Radhika for this.

Angie watch the promo...it has been posted by Nipun ...there is a slight softening of expression on Devs face and I don't think either is smiling at the other...they are facing each other in their own rooms...Radhika in her room overlooking Devs room across the courtyard...she is putting on bangles and feels a presence looks out of the window and they show Dev standing there watching her with a contemplative look and voice over saying "Radhika ke prati pighal rahi hai Dev ki Karvahat"...so maybe the physical abuse will be a catalyst as you have mentioned...but they have to show his remorse at his actions...him breaking down and apologizing to Radhika... otherwise again they will leave loopholes between what has been shown in the past week and Devs softening towards Radhika.  

But again, this intentional plan of making Radhika would be a change in the script and does not go with the previous episodes and all his thoughts shown so far.  Now the question is the sudden change in his behavior.  Is it because the audience are getting repulsed by Dev and they had to change his character?  If audience are getting repulsed, I don't blame them.  As Misti said, fans are comparing him with Dev of CB1 and here no perspective was ever given and they made his thoughts so one-sided (only thinking of Rohan as he wasn't even talking about Dadaji at that time) that he started coming across as extremely selfish and self-centered who liked to blame Radhika for his wrong actions.
That is why for Dev monologues are important to connect him with the audience.


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Misti liked ur interesting comments and the discussions on the thread and all interesting points covered by all of u Dadaji did not tell anyone till today as BB never missed out giving the injection on time and the only time she missed out was in this episode and then Radhika whom DDG liked from the 1st instance was there so he tried to tell  her everything,and a correct person too as she will think in a rational manner as she has no bias or predetermined mindset about any of the members except KKWink.But then if she finds anything wrong in him she will also not hesitate in calling a spade a spade.

As for the promo till now we have 2 new promos shown dont know whether they will come in the show or not as promos can also be misleadingWinkTongue


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