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Freida Pinto Spotted at the France Airport (Page 9)

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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 12:49pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by qwww

Valid points I didnt read thru all the pages here so I am not into the whole discussion. I have problems when people paint a certain country with such broad strokes. If Most Indians hated Frieda the Indian media would nto cover her they way they do. How is this generalization any less judgemental than the folks calling Frieda a one trick pony ? Its like everytime an article a bout her is posted one is supposed to gush about her if not  it is hating on her.
 
well, my initial argument wasn't even about that... it was regarding the comment that her only claim to fame was her couple mintues in SDM a lifetime ago... just because people choose to highlight one factor only, does not mean only one factor fits into the equation... rest are points, which i did not make... and i think in this case, i will reserve my judgement...!  TongueTongue
 
and yes, i can see why you would have an issue... i don't blame you... however, media and general perceptions aren't always hand in hand... the thing is, i'm quite aware of the factors that endear her to the public, and the factors which do not... people can have their preference, that is fine..
 
and regarding generalizations... since some people have already brought in physics... every action has an equal and opposite reaction...!  Wink
 
i for one, do not expect praise overload for her... and infact, i have previously asked the mods, whether we should even continue to allow news for frieda to be posted in bolly... but if the mods are going to allow it, i'll deal with it like a regular topic... so yes, no expectations about people 'gushing' about her whatsoever...

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Sanam are you studying science now  ? Quoting  Newton's laws of motion and all LOL 
Yeah I just read the last comment and jumped in to the ring Tongue.
 

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Originally posted by Nuktaacheen

Originally posted by _VERSACE_

Oh absolutely. I don't jump into discussions to convince the other party that I'm right and they're wrong. It would be ridiculous on my part to expect someone to change the way they think by merely sharing a few thoughts in an online forum. I am definitely not looking for converts here. In fact, it's the difference in our opinions that stimulate the discussions here.

Apparently, your approach is starkly different from mine and I can accept as well as tolerate the difference.  But you are casting aspersions on my way of looking at things by saying that I look at the world through a bubble. I can give your viewpoint a name too if I wanted to but I won't because I understand that each person has his own personal perspective and choice and there's no right or wrong way of looking at things. 
 
yes, our approaches are obviously different... and my purpose is not to 'convince' or 'convert' others either, but merely address some of the questions/points raised earlier... and if you don't like it, then i suggest you shouldn't tell people either what they are supposedly 'hung on on'!  Tongue instead of answering or directing your comment towards my comment, you go into physics, then it's only fair i point out Newton's third law... i'm sure you know what that is...!   TongueTongue

Now you are hung up on my usage of "hung up on".LOL Just kidding. I wasn't even using it in a pejorative manner, it's just a turn of phrase that comes naturally to me when I want to call someone out on their persistent outlook on something. There. Better?
And please, I wasn't trying to employ Physics into the discussion. Only God knows how much I curse that thing called Physics everyday.LOL Theory of relativity can be employed in a regular conversation too without treading into Physics and Newton's laws of motion. Since I noticed that you tend to look at the whole shebang as opposed to me who looks at one thing at a time, I brought up the theory of relativity to put our differences into perspective. For God's sake, how does that warrant such a caustic reaction from you?

 
Since I don't keep tabs on Frieda's life, I wouldn't know what is still keeping her career intact. What I know of her work so far is her appearance in SDM which I found pretty average. It opened the doors to hollywood for her, which is understandable. But it's about time she gave something new to people to talk about. To people who don't care about celebrities beyond their movies. But yes, you're right, I do believe that Freida must be doing all the right things at the right places to still be on the limelight without contributing much in terms of acting. So it's not that I am denying her credit where it's due. 
Also, ideally speaking, if you've taken up acting as your career, your acting is supposed to prompt that hype, not something else. Of course, that's not to say that I support other actors who draw attention without acting. Just that since we're talking about Freida here, it's her who gets put on the chopping block, not someone else. 
 
again, you're still talking about SDM... perhaps, a look at her filmography would help...!  just because she has not done mostly hindi movies, does not mean that SDM is the ONLY movie she has done... again, that was pointed out earlier...!   TongueTongue
 
if you do believe that, then that's fine... 

Quote me where I said that SDM is the ONLY movie she's done so far? If you go over my posts with a cool head, you will see that the overall point I'm trying doggone hard to make since the past few days is that Freida's work, considering it alone, does not warrant the amount of hype she gets. And that is strictly my opinion. If you believe that her body of work does deserve the hype, that is absolutely fine with me. Just don't expect me to appreciate or agree with it.
 
Oh, that was just an observation - the amount of flak Kat/Deep/Sonam receive here for their lack of acting skills. It wasn't directed at you in particular. 
 
mine was also an observation, which happens to be true for most part... and not just on the forum here, but also in truth... desi people for the most part, usually are hardly happy to see other desis succeed, especially in the west... TongueTongueTongue  kat/deepika/sonam may get a lot of flak on the forum, but their popularity says quite a lot in itself... don't you agree..?  Wink

Is that your perception of desis living in the west? That they are hardly happy to see other desis succeed? Not that this has anything to do with the topic and I hate to be disagreeableTongue, but I think that depends on what kind of desis you been hanging out with. Perhaps I have been hanging out with the right ones, hence I don't think so lowly of them. 
Anyways, coming back to the point, perhaps you got the impression that I am not happy to see Freida's success. But that couldn't be further from the truth. We both agree with the end, i.e. Freida's success. It's the means that I have a problem with. How hard is that to comprehend? Sheesh!

Not that this has anything to do with my point but just to touch on that bit about Kat/Deep/Sonam, they are popular because badnaami mein bhi "naam" chupi hoti hai. As long as people either love or hate them and not ignore them, they will continue to grow popular.

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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 10:28pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by robfanatic

Originally posted by _VERSACE_

Originally posted by driftingaway

I would have agreed with your point versace, if not for the fact that in order to be a hotshot, in hollywood's criteria you don't exactly need stupendous acting skills. Why is Freida Pinto being singled out, when we have talentless people like Katie Price, Katy Perry, Cheryl Cole, megan Fox, Kim Kadarshian etc.still surviving, and going strong when they have no commendable work to their names? They are doingwhatever they can do to survive and milking the success and attention they have garnered ... everyceleb does it. Thesepeople seem to have their fair share of haters and lovers too. I don't understand why Freida is constantly scrutinized, She's not the best actress out there, and to be honest her performance in SDM was not ground breaking, but the girl has still made it to the top. All alone. So, props to her for that. She's doing well for herself, and Ican't find myselftobe bitter overthat, when so many other celebrities make it through and are treated like demi gods without havingany talent whatsoever.


</div>This coming from a non indian, I find Freida to be absolutely gorgeous. I don't know where all this 'westerners hate freida' thing is coming from. Some like her, and some are neutral when it comes to her, but i don't think there is any hating going on. Actually I think celebrities like Cheryl Cole and Katy Perry have started to receive a lot of flak these days. Go read the user comments on the daily mail. Absolutely hillarious.LOL



I find it hillarious of how criticalsomeparts ofthebollywood industry is towards Freida LOLsour grapes much.


<div><font color="#660099" face="'Comic Sans MS', Times, serif">Bollywood industry being harsh on Frieda is understandable. They rejected her and now she is shining in hollywood, which bollywood dreams of becoming someday. It can't be anything but sour grapes.LOL</font>
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<font color="#660099" face="'Comic Sans MS', Times, serif">Your post was an awesome read and did a well job of explaining my stand too. Thanks for understanding where I am coming from. I was not denying Freida her staying power. That belongs to her account fair and square. It's just that for someone who knows actors and actresses mostly through their movies, the hoopla that surrounds her is beyond reason. Boy, am I tired of repeating myself in a never ending loop. lol.</font>
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<font color="#660099" face="'Comic Sans MS', Times, serif">Kim Kardashian...just the name is more than enough to crack me up.LOLI agree that hollywood is full of overrated prats too. I wasn't particularly picking on Freida here. That's my take on pretty much every hollywood actor and actress who make it through sidejobs instead of real work. No wonder they say I come across as a cynical freak.LOL</font>
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<font color="#660099" face="'Comic Sans MS', Times, serif">Anyways, later.</font>
Im glad you understood that ur comments are ridiculous.If freida is overrated,so are all the other top stars in the world.I don't get why indians like u often make nasty comments about her alone when there are so many talentless indian stars like katrina and deepika who don't receive even 1% hatred freida gets from indian ppl.

You know what, li'l girl? I have had it up to here with you. I am politely making my points whereas you are continuously resorting to personal attacks. I let them slide a couple of times before but my patience is over now. Now take this - What you have been saying all along make absolutely no sense. Firstly, you are calling my comments ridiculous, nasty, and all that crap when I haven't said anything that borders on "nasty" to her or you. And then you're assuming that I'm an Indian and making an absolutely groundless claim that majority of the Indians hate on Freida. When I asked you to back up your claim, you went quiet. The next thing I know, you quote my response to driftingaway and call my points ridiculous, nasty, yada yada yada. At the same time, you're also claiming that Katrina and Deepika don't get any criticism when anyone with half a brain can see the flak they take here every. darn. day. In one word, your argument (if there was ever one) is highly biased and groundless, which I don't have time for. So don't mind if I ignore you going onwards, okay?

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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 10:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by masakaliii

Originally posted by robfanatic

Im glad you understood that ur comments are ridiculous.If freida is overrated,so are all the other top stars in the world.I don't get why indians like u often make nasty comments about her alone when there are so many talentless indian stars like katrina and deepika who don't receive even 1% hatred freida gets from indian ppl.
 
 
If you want to stick up for a star then do it, but i didn't find VERSACE's comments ridiculous at all. When did she make any nasty comments? Frieda's succes is overrated. And thats not even stretching it. Also, so what if other top stars are overrated? Are we talking about them? Just because people feel frieda is overrated it doesn't mean they want her to fail, but perhaps work harder to earn her success. And personally, i would like to keep seeing her in hollywood, and like versace said, it would be nice to see her show her acting skills so that her credit is more well deserved.  Katrina gets plenty of hatred from indian people, and also the woman in the BW industry -_- so your points are just as skewed as you think versaces is.
 

Her points you say? What points? She's been throwing around a bunch of tall claims like "all the indians hate on freida"..."indians like you put down freida"..."girls of south asian ethnicity don't find freida beautiful" yada yada yada. and when someone asks her to back up her claims, she just goes on with yet another spree of similar groundless claims.Wacko Since I realized that I'm getting into a vicious circle with her I called it a day. 


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Originally posted by qwww

Sanam are you studying science now  ? Quoting  Newton's laws of motion and all LOL 
Yeah I just read the last comment and jumped in to the ring Tongue.
 
 
LOLLOLLOL  hardly... physics has always been my strong subject... it has been ages since i studied it, but i do know how to counter one theory with another...!  WinkLOLLOL 
 
 

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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 8:20am | IP Logged
Originally posted by _VERSACE_

Now you are hung up on my usage of "hung up on".LOL Just kidding. I wasn't even using it in a pejorative manner, it's just a turn of phrase that comes naturally to me when I want to call someone out on their persistent outlook on something. There. Better?
And please, I wasn't trying to employ Physics into the discussion. Only God knows how much I curse that thing called Physics everyday.LOL Theory of relativity can be employed in a regular conversation too without treading into Physics and Newton's laws of motion. Since I noticed that you tend to look at the whole shebang as opposed to me who looks at one thing at a time, I brought up the theory of relativity to put our differences into perspective. For God's sake, how does that warrant such a caustic reaction from you?

LOLLOLLOL  i was hardly 'caustic' in my remarks... and isn't it exactly what you're saying now... i just put it in simpler words...!   WinkTongueTongue   perhaps, you should consider your own comments, instead of lecturing others of being 'caustic' and all that jazz...!
 
looking at one thing at a time... isn't that exactly how the flowchart works... how do you expect to reach the conclusion, if you don't consider all the points...!   TongueTongue
 
in any case... just as you brought in theory of relativity to put our differences into perspective (though, why that was needed, i don't get...)... since, i don't come here to tell people whether they wake up on the wrong side of bed, or how they view the world... but if you dish it out, be prepared to take it in as well, instead of complaining...!   TongueTongueTongue
 
Quote me where I said that SDM is the ONLY movie she's done so far? If you go over my posts with a cool head, you will see that the overall point I'm trying doggone hard to make since the past few days is that Freida's work, considering it alone, does not warrant the amount of hype she gets. And that is strictly my opinion. If you believe that her body of work does deserve the hype, that is absolutely fine with me. Just don't expect me to appreciate or agree with it.
 
why don't you check your own comments on the very first page...!   TongueTongue   your opinion seems to have changed, then looking at the overall picture... you think she's overrated still, and that's fine... isn't everyone...?  WinkTongueTongue
 
 
Is that your perception of desis living in the west? That they are hardly happy to see other desis succeed? Not that this has anything to do with the topic and I hate to be disagreeableTongue, but I think that depends on what kind of desis you been hanging out with. Perhaps I have been hanging out with the right ones, hence I don't think so lowly of them. 
Anyways, coming back to the point, perhaps you got the impression that I am not happy to see Freida's success. But that couldn't be further from the truth. We both agree with the end, i.e. Freida's success. It's the means that I have a problem with. How hard is that to comprehend? Sheesh!

lowly...?  LOLLOL  no, i don't hang out with such desis, not that it's any of your business...!  TongueTongue  look at any job field, you'll see similar trends... and it's not ALL, it's the majority... there are exceptions everywhere... world is not black and white you know... perhaps, you are too young right now to have experienced such things, but it does not matter...

nah... i am not under any impression, and i don't form conclusions of other people's life based on their comments... seems like that is your hobby, but i assure you, it hardly interests me...
 
and as i have said it earlier, i really do not care what you have problems with... world is not out there to appease each and everyone... there's no magic science behind that either, that you can't comprehend, and continue to repeat points, by becoming more and more personal...!  TongueTongueTongueTongue 

Not that this has anything to do with my point but just to touch on that bit about Kat/Deep/Sonam, they are popular because badnaami mein bhi "naam" chupi hoti hai. As long as people either love or hate them and not ignore them, they will continue to grow popular.

exactly... and that is something that i always say... TongueTongue
 
hum taalib-e-shuhrat hain, humen nang se kya kaam
badnaam agar hon ge, to kya naam na ho ga...!  WinkTongue
 
that's by Ghalib, btw...!   Wink
p.s.  if you have issues with the response of certain people, you can always report those comments... you certainly do not need to redirect them towards me... just because some people might be okay with them, i certainly am not...!   Tongue   it's kinda amusing to me... on one hand, you find comments which suggest you're making 'nasty, etc.' comments out of line (which i have to agree with), but on the other hand, you also make personal comments, which are also out of line... espcially comments about other people's personality (not only in this topic but others as well)... in any case... just something i noticed... but hey, whatever floats your boat...!  WinkTongueTongue

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