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Posted: 23 May 2011 at 6:06pm | IP Logged
wow a lot has been said.. and tbh am sorta lost in the verbosity of expressions somewhere.. lol.. 

making a final effort here.. on the current topic.

@dmgfan2bnot2b: good to bump into you here after mjht forum.. LOL.. as usual fascinated by your passion.. as opposed to my non-commital stance on most issues at least on fiction.. I agree partly but I wont completely call it a feminist issue here.. 

@koolsadhu1000: just coz u made an effort to read thro my gibberish and reply- I agree on the outset that Devki hasn't been shown to struggle.. but then that's literature a lot of details are avoided in the pertinence of story telling and things are just told to the readers.. now willing suspension of disbelief is a completely subjective matter.. I would tend to suspend it on this occasion coz I am in general fascinated by the storytelling overall than sit and critique flaws in characterizations.. 

What I meant wasn't a direct comparison of who got more lucky.. or who got a silver platter.. It's about relative resilience.. of free-spirit. So while Vaibhav and Sid could easily compromise with their free-will and spirit Sonal and Devki have more resilience to stand up for their convictions indirectly their free-spirit. IMV in general will ONLY fight free-will when it stands against his aspirations or beliefs. He isn't some neurotic. So while I defend his intentions.. I also defend Devki's egotism.. coz that's what it's called.. If wanting to challenge yourself to give a fight against the best and see if you have it in you to beat them at their game is egotism.. I am all for it vis-a-vis a mediocre survival at the cost of my soul.. Besides as I see it.. Devki was ready to be gracious in defeat.. what mattered to her was to stand there and give her best presentation.. and damn the world! no one can deprive her or any zealous person (man or woman) that right.. there goes my moment of passionLOL

Secondly.. one thing's transparent as water.. Devki never made bones about her priority and loyalty even before marraige.. and getting into it.. she did it for BB and she will fight for his  co. which makes Vaibhav's offer for divorce all the more reasonable. coz there is no denying that's her goal.. and if the marraige comes in its way such that she can't deal with it.. she is free to go.. but as usual her resilience comes in. .she wants to prove to herself.. she wont give it up without a fight.. and yes it will get boring if she won everything.. again what is interesting is the duel (unintended) between devki's unconscious resilience vs IMV's conscious aggressive moves.. 

I dont think its fair to compare Devki and Rajvi just coz Rajvi is way more emotionally invested in her matrimony and has 7 yrs while Devki knew what she was getting into consciously and is rather rational about it. I would rather compare Rajvi and Charu.. at the level if it gets hopeless to expect as it got with Charu down the road.. Rajvi should look for peace in individuality like Charu did.. for her own and her family's sake.. then again what do I know.. .lol

P.S. I forgot to add.. yes Devki is getting the advantage of guidance and help on some accord unknowingly.. But so did Arjun in Mahabharat.. but I wont quite discredit Arjun's dexterity or valor based on that.. would conveniently resort to destiny favors the brave.. LOL..


Edited by sonali.19281 - 23 May 2011 at 6:29pm

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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 5:18pm | IP Logged
She wants "laddoo in both her hands" and that's perfectly ok to wish for
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That is Devki for u . And she is as naively idealistic as Baa and Master .
 
Baa and Master represent idealism . IMV represents materialism .
 
Devki is the pupil of former .
 
If this serial proceeds by showing idealism winning , it will soon become predictable , boring and unrealistic .
 
Just look at it . A chit of a girl ...with intelligence , a fresh graduate from London's business school , constantly defeating an established A,mbani kinda businessman .
 
Degrees are NOTHING in front of experience . This is MY experience in life .
 
Her two defeats are so EASY . By outbidding him with reverse strategy in a bid and now giving a flamboyant speech in front of aviation commitee ...why wud they drop an established company over a novice BEATS me .
 
Well , is there gonna be a THIRD defeat too ? and a FOURTH ? Coz then , this serial gets PREDICTABLE .
 
She is a nice girl , but at times she is too idealistic is my only criticism of her .
 
Honestly ...do Master and Baa and Manhar's philosophies work for even ONE day in this kaliyuga ?
 
Nope . The day Manhar left the house , and mind u , IMV had made it clear he wud have to leave two days earlier ...he had no clue WHERE he was gonna go , that too with BAA in tow .He was sitting on the roads with hischin in his palms till BB coincidentally drove up .
 
Don't tell me Manhar didn't even know how to look for rentals .
 
There r far too many such co incidences in this serial . BB driving up was one ...Manhar on committee and favoring Devki was one .
 
Was that really Devki's acumen or was it her luck that she met a fellow idealist ...the son of Sri Krishna Baa on that commitee who approved of her idealism ?
 
And strongly disapproved of his brother's materialism ?
 
So was Devki's second success actually a get together of ISMS ?
 
No one will ever know the mystery .
 
I feel CVS flawed Devki's first success by putting Manhar on that committee .
 
They shud have shown a neutral commitee and Devki winning this on her own .
 
Why does Devki wear typical saris when she is such a young dashing girl ? I expect more from this serial that dared to show non bitchy women for a change .
 
This serial is not about WOMEN Vs MEN at all . Its about two different approaches towards life ...idealistic and materialistic .
 
While I don't denounce the latter totally , I do not applaud the former either . I never applaud anything thats impractical .
 
Anup , ur right . Ego is not just about MONEY . Ego on a subtle level can exist regarding many things ...values , sanskaars , truth , ideals ...children , capability !
 
IMV's parents have ego about their values , their way of upbringing , their way of cheerfully accepting poverty .
 
What they cannot really accept is their offspring ...THEIR product , rejected THEIR way of thinking and thought independently on his own . IMV saw the same poverty with different eyes . He saw his mother's struggle differently . he chose not to glorify something over which he had no control . He chose to fight it and turn his back on it .
 
if IMV says constantly IMV ka BETA etc , so do his parents keep saying MOTILAL MASTER KA BETA or BIWI etc .
 
Tthis ego battle of names is often seen between Father and middle aged son .
 
I often get the impression that Baa is angry with IMV as he doesn't really think his father is some one special . Thats the aura THEY both created but IMV didn't fall for it . He had his own mind . That HURT Baa . IM loves his father as a son ...that filial feeling is there , but he doesn't hail him like a god as they wid like him to . He has a silent contempt for his father's SOCH . That rattles them .
 
IMV's punishment for this is ...they ostracize him . They r sarcastic towards him . They sit , eat , under his roof and hold contempt for his materialism . They do not grant him the latitude to have ego for whatever he accomplished in life .
 
He was a simple matriculate from a remote village in Gujrath ...Mangrol ...he was no London Business School graduate like Devki .
 
His success will ALWAYS be greater than Sid , Vaibhav or even Devki's .
 
Many will laugh at me for this but I see IMV as a victim , not just as a villain . No one really understands him . His mother does , but she is too full of HER ego battle with him .
 
If IMV is accused of trying to control his sons , Master and BAA r STILL doing it by being actively involved with the sansaar of their middle aged sons . Baa has a say in both ...Ishvar and Manhar's life when ideally she shud be doing Hari Hari .
 
I wud like to see Devki winning but also losing some . I wud like to see some realisations dawning on her mind too .That , as Anup said , she cannot have laddoo in both hands ALL the time .
 
One more thing . I really DO NOT see BB as a bichara old man . He was perfectly entitled to refuse Ishvar if he had big plans for his daughter and Ishvar was penniless .But the way he insulted Ishvar was hurtful .
 
He married his daughter to a spoilt young  man named Dalichand who had vices .
 
His daughter DIED due to that painful marraige .
 
IMV' hatred of BB arises from his love for Chandraprabha ...he thinks BB is her murderer . Which , in a sense , is true .
 
IMV faced a personal insult and also saw the horrific death of his Loved one .
 
BB killed him .
 
I dunno why , but I am sure that in the end , when IMV has all the power and planning to really crush Devki , he will NOT do so and walk away , really free .
 
If I had been the author I wud have ended thisstory this way .Dunno how Harkisan Mehta ended . But anyone read Wuthering Heights ?
 
Heathcliff loses interest in revenge in the end with Cathy's daughter who stands against him .
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 5:33pm | IP Logged
I forgot to add.. yes Devki is getting the advantage of guidance and help on some accord unknowingly.. But so did Arjun in Mahabharat.. but I wont quite discredit Arjun's dexterity or valor based on that
 
.But Arjun got the guidance much later , AFTER he had proved himself as an able prince . Arjun was middle aged when the Mahabharath war was fought , his young sons were MARRIED . He had proved himself as an able administrator , prince , warrior , ...yogi and excellent husband . Prior to the war , Krishna existed in his life as a loved and revered cousin . But Arjun was pretty much on his own .
 
The intent was not to quibble . My only point is Devki DOES seem to get a LOT on asilver platter for someone who is trying hard to make a mark on her own . And thats CVS fault . They shud show her struggle more acutely .
 
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 4:44am | IP Logged
Hey... i watched Muktibandhan for the first time yesterday and actually liked the episode... so first time on this forum to catch up on the serial so i can continue to watch... is there a link where there are written updates archived from the beginning?
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Posted: 25 May 2011 at 8:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by intruderfast

Originally posted by sonali.19281

Originally posted by intruderfast

Originally posted by sonali.19281

His reaction was extremely natural.. as it seems.. there a different facets to any human being.. his humane side spoke the night when he said I hope you win to devki.. esp seeing that she was really working hard for it.. but then again he is a businessman.. a son.. a self.. he can't disregard all these in a fit of humanity.. So he should be spared his moment of disregard.. and frustration.. 

Only thing I find intriguing in this scenario is the gradual progression in VDs equation.. although they are not quintessential husband wife vaibhav quite comfortably shows his dislike and frustration on her.. which goes to show that she isn't a stark stranger anymore.. coz you don't do that to stark strangers.. the thing is they both care.. to some extent.. which is rather nice.. there is a gradual comfort level building.. which can't be given any connotation.. but is very realistic.. where both can voice each other's opinion rather honestly to each other.. esp coming from 2 very diff places.. at most times..

absolutely agreed , vaibhav reaction was very natural
he will feel bad for this defeat , it was his company , he will feel sad 4 his dad .
he is also worried abt media blowing this issue out of proportion.
btw - u write very wellSmile

thanks for the compliment.. appreciate it.. btw I haven't as usual gathered your name yet.. typical me.. always lost... LOL.. 
hota hainLOL, my name 's anmol
aue waise bhi shakespeare said whats in a nameLOLLOL
but these days ppl themselves forget their names and then ask "wht's my name?"LOLLOL

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