Originally posted by nikitagmc
In your FF, I loved the scene u set witht eh original PR characters and the original PR plot. Most of all, I loved how you managed to keep the storyline pure, intriguing and simple marital story without the vitriol that Ekta's storylines contain. Very down to earth and relatable.
Ekta's PR got destroyed for me with the beating for the Ds. It was unreasonably cruel and harsh for the simple story that it had started out to be. I liked how you handled and incorporated Shravani's involvement but I was lost reading this update.
I know you will make your best efforts to rescue the protagonists inspite of this plot but somehow this part now makes this FF feel more like Ekta's PR than Nicki's PR. Any marital compromise after this will now have the same effect that Ekta's reunion did after divorce. an imbalanced effort.
Actually Hope, I always wrote this story aiming to show the journey of a lower middle class married couple, two people who come together with their own baggage of problems for each other- the boy has a dysfunctional family in which any girl would find difficult to adjust, the girl has the shadow of an evil person hounding her, Ajit, who resolves to leave no stone unturned in wrecking her life, which affects her husband too. Both are not really advantageous for each other if you see it that way.
I wanted it to show it as a journey of their little sorrows and joys, testing times and victories, difficulties and how they fight them and in this process, their relationship evolves, and so do their characters.
To do this, I tried to incorporate issues a lower middle class couple could face.
Niki I guess that is where my disappointment sets in. Your FF was always realistic and relatable till now. What happened between Savita and Archana was typical saas-bahu nok jhok. it is not nice but is life. The feminist movement is all well and good until you end up living in a joitn family set up willingly or for lack of choice. Then the feminist movement goes down the drain and survival instincts kick in. you become more tolerant and learn to pick the battles you fight and choose to win. I know many many many women who face this underserved rivalry with their MIL for their son's affections. FIling police complaint for such a common though distasteful reason is extreme and highly unrealistic. While a character like Manjusha might do this with the intent of police brutality being a satisfactory outcome if not public humiliation at the least, characters as extreme as Manjusha are too rude an interruption in a beautiful love story. I had hoped that this part would cover the dynamics of their limbo relationship.
Niki, no marriage recovers from such a brutal experience. I can assure you of this in reality. you only take such a drastic step as the Ks and you only allow such a drastic step to go unchalleged as Archana does when you are sure you have burnt all your bridges and there is no going back to sasural. coming back home with him was not nearly enough. It is an aggravator for an innocent victim not a step towards reconciliation of any sort. You are a constant reminder of the undeserved brutality and humiliation that can never be reversed or forgotten. Even Ekta realized this that is why in the show it was shown that Manav refuses to be consoled by Archana and in fact tyaags her. that was a normal reaction for once in an Ekta show. it was not too dramatic but very realistic.
FYI, Archana was harassed not abused by Savita. The treatment meted out in the show could be considered by even creative and vindictive minds as a just retribution for abuse but not harassment, I think.This I don't know. I based the story upon the understanding from the numerous discussions on the forum and later with Kools.
I explained myself above. so will not say more here.
Archana's harassment in Ekta's show and your FF was enabled by her own silence and acquiciense of Savita's actions. She did not cause them or deserve them but she did not discourage them or curb them either. True that Archana's silence caused her to suffer. But that does not absolve Savita of treating her badly. I just wanted to show her as someone real- someone who is scared of it at first and does not know how to react or talk to her newly wed husband about it, not knowing if he would support her. But she did make an attempt to curb it- she asked Shravani (who worked with her at the NGO earlier) for help and what she was supposed to do. Unfortunately Shravani succumbed to her selfish desires and misguided Archana.
there are other ways with less damaging effect on an already faltering marriage to show this I guess. like word leaking from manjusha to prospective grooms for the other siblings or word leaking to Manav himself. Her harrassment was something that should have been dealt with through societal shame as opposed to police brutality or the legal system. A senior citizen who uses words and a harsh tone to harass someone gets beaten up with lathis to prove a point of poetic justice. imbalanced in my opinion.
Similarily, I didn't want to make Archana a Jhansi ki Rani in one day. I had thought of showing this change gradually in the story- starting from being scared, then slightly tactical, then taking little bold steps, and so on. She was slightly tactical in part 71, and took the first little bold step in this part (in the end)
I agree. Overnight transformation will not happen but second guessing every decision will happen. She was very firm that she did not want to do anything against Manjusha. that is not someone who is second guessing. that is someone who came back for the wrong reasons and still lacks the commitment that she thinks she came with. she still disappointments. Now she has decided to listen to a total stranger over the husband she regrets abandoning and who is now suffering for her own neverending silence.
Archana was not beaten physically because of Savita yet Savita and the Ds were beaten physically becasue of Archana. A distinct imbalance. She may have not been beaten, but the way Savita went about shouting in front of all her neighbours that she was a prostitute is enough horror to any girl to do the unthinkable. (I did not incorporate the scenes in detail in the FF cos we have already seen them in the show)
Savita got what she deserved. The imbalance occured for Manav, who got punished for no mistake- this I accept.
I still disagree and I am a married woman who has lived in a joint family and been exposed to strife involved repeatedly. So is Kools.
I explain why above.
So can one assume that one such scene would lead to another retribuion scene where Sulochana and the entire Ks are arrested and beaten viciously for harassing Manav and Manav refuses to support Archana and claim he was not abused/ harassed upon the advice of a NGO? What's good for the goose is good for the gander, right?????? Sorry Hope, mujhe yeh samajh nahi aya. Ks did not harass him. And are there any such laws for males in the country if they are harassed? Sulo has harassed Manav in exactly the same depth as Archana has been harassed by Savita. Manav did something about it while Archu did not that is why Manav appears less of a victim compared to Archana.
Before I left India in 1999 there was a society that protected men that were battered husbands. It is a social stigma that is not as widely known because of the feminist movement. It does exist. The problem is that global women's movements have ensure that rights of wives are preserved or given a certain importance but no such support is shown for battered men or husbands in developing countries which are patriarchial in nature. it will be source of embarrasment.
In the west, both husbands and wives have their rights protected against harassment and abuse. In the case of harassment you don't imprison the spouse unless there is intent of bodily harm. you do however get a restraining order that is legally enforced. it is when there is actual physcial abuse that there is imprisonment. here, manjusha would not have been let go based on "good intent". she would have had to prove abuse (mental or physical) before anyone was arrested and she could be arrested for falsifying a complaint and sued in civil court for punitive damages for defamation of character and physical and emotional trauma. savita and manav would have won easier than manjusha would have got off. the solution for such harassment is divorce not imprisonment.