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Discussion thread - Week of May 16-20, 2011 (Page 7)

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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 12:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Wafah
 
Rani, I don't see the "Humari Dukaan" effect. I didn't see Guddu really letting go of his anger either. He has softened, but in some ways he's still using Kukkan to talk to Runjhun in the beginning of the scene, till she directly goes up to him and asks him to apologize to them.

I know the mamas and mamis are not worthy of apology, but what Runjhun said is very valid. Guddu has to let go of his anger. I think Runjhun at most is trying to help Guddu get rid of his anger. Guddu's anger is his biggest weakness, when he sees red, he sees very little else, and till he can let go of it her mama and mamis can easily use it against him. If he apologizes to them, he doesn't become smaller like Runjhun said, but eventually they won't be able to use his anger against him. They won't be able to say the things they said in the morning to him. Runjhun doesn't like Guddu being called a thug, and she speaks up for it to Mittho.

She doesn't want his anger to become his weakness. She knows the mama and mamis celebrated the fact that his anger lost him business on that first day. So while in some ways it can be conceived as Runjhun trying to be mahaan and still trying to change Guddu, her way has changed. She's being more simplistic and upfront of her requests than before. So it might feel like the issues haven't changed but on a subtle plane their interactions have changed. Runjhun has in some ways stepped back and is giving Guddu more space. Guddu on the whole has become a little more open to reasoning than he was in the past.

Friday episode was very explosive and in those terms this whole week feels like it's been avoidance and lukewarm, and the precap feels like the issues haven't been dealt with as they are showing Guddu in lovesick mode supposedly. But I think there is still a lot at play and these issues will need to be dealt with slowly. Guddu and Runjhun haven't started talking to each other yet, since the Friday argument. Their words to each other are very much surface words and they have to be on proper talking terms to have a misunderstanding free conversation. Right now the store became the excuse for them talking to each other.

When you're in an argument and give each other the silent treatment, eventually you start talking by one either you start arguing again, or you find another common ground and connect there and then talk about what happened. You can't just start dealing with issues, and this transition is happening for Runjhun and Guddu, they're getting on talking terms and when they get on talking terms is the time they will address the issues. Right now the store business has been the transition factor.

As for Mahadevi and Jabbo, Mahadevi's attitude today was expected. She is young and immature in her thinking, and she is slowly maturing. She was nursing a curse on Guddu, and as odd as it felt to me and as against I was, it's a normal thing to happen. I've seen it happen. Then when she realized that her feelings will never get reciprocated because Runjhun and Guddu are married and she is jealous of the relationship that Guddu and Runjhun share (from her eyes they have this understanding and affection for each other). Jabbo offered her affection. Just when she felt like she was being ignored by her family (which she was since her parents are mostly busy plotting against people) Jabbo gives her the attention she is seeking, and promises her love and happiness so she falls for it.

So when Jabbo breaks her heart, she reels from it, doesn't mean that she can't hope that he might be different. Today she saw him and she hoped that maybe because of her wedding he'd changed his mind and maybe he realized she meant something to her. Her heart is very innocent in some ways still so she is still hopeful. She's not a cynic to turn away from affection if she thinks there is hope for it. Runjhun keeps on trying with Guddu (the equation is different and Runjhun isn't hoping for affection) but Runjhun tries with Guddu to change him even with the setbacks. She keeps hope that he will learn to control his anger. She has moments when Guddu surprises her with his demeanor, and she hangs on to the good. Same way Mahadevi was making a last clinging attempt in hope that maybe that sweet Jabbo who had tried to woo her was the same Jabbo. So you can't knock her for her reaction to Jabbo today. She is very simple minded.

As for Mahadevi's pregnancy issue, first of all I don't think anything happened between Jabbo and Mahadevi for her to be pregnant. I do think pregnancy questions might come up, because only Mahadevi knows what happened, but I honestly don't think that Mahadevi is pregnant. Also considering the time line, it is too short a period for Mahadevi to feel nauseous even if something did happen and she did become pregnant. As for Runjhun feeding her kheer and her regurgitating, is either one that Mahadevi will not benefit from Runjhun's bhag, hence the kheer she was fed, she threw it up. Or second, it is working for Mahadevi and will stop her marriage to someone she doesn't love, and bring her closer to someone she has feelings for, by leading to misunderstandings. I don't know for sure, but I definitely feel like Mahadevi isn't pregnant, but I can be wrong.

I'm not going to discuss "Tere Mast Mast Do Nain" except Runjhun look highly uncomfortable...


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Wafah I loved it when you breakdown the episode...I did not watch it yet...so I can't gave a lot of comment...but I like your view on the episode...
Although I am not happy that Guddu apologized or wanted to apologized to those evil's ...Runjhun has a good point there...and I am happy that Guddu listen to her and apologized...although I get nauseous at the idea just like Mahadevi...LOL
 
I agree with you about the Devi part...definitely not pregnant...maybe she got nauseous because now it sink in  that she just few minutes ago said yes...to the groom bother...Just a though... and what you just said ...Runhjun Bhag will help her not married the guy choosing for her...
 
Ps...What means Humari Dukaan and Tere Mast Mast Do NainConfused

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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 12:51pm | IP Logged

It is from the movie Dabangg (2010) - fearless.  It is a popular song with the male lead enthralled by the eyes of the female lead.

Hamari dukaan means our store.

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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 12:57pm | IP Logged
Ps...What means Humari Dukaan and Tere Mast Mast Do NainConfused


Humaari Dukaan means Our store...or sometimes when people talk politely they use hum as "me" too actually. In ZEE TV USA I've noticed they use "me" whenever Runjhun says "hum"

Agin I think Rani might have noticed something, and it is very possible it is there, I didn't catch that subtlety there, but Rani seems to catch the smallest of details...

Gardes, I like the way you said carrot dangling in front of the viewers...it was too funny...LOL Yes he might be pushing the touch issue. Himmanshoo tweeted it as a time pass song so I wonder what the significance of the song really is in tomorrow's episode.

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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:03pm | IP Logged
Wafah, whatever Himmanshoo's reasons for calling it a time pass song, I LOVE the duet (over the male version of the song)...
 
It is sung by 2 of my favorite singers..
 
Well, the viewers are chomping at the bit to see some coochie-coo between Guddu and Runjhun and this should make for a good Friday cliffhanger, right?  LOLWinkLOLLOL

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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by gardes

Wafah, whatever Himmanshoo's reasons for calling it a time pass song, I LOVE the duet (over the male version of the song)...
 
It is sung by 2 of my favorite singers..
 
Well, the viewers are chomping at the bit to see some coochie-coo between Guddu and Runjhun and this should make for a good Friday cliffhanger, right?  LOL


so true..love the song as well..

salman wears those sunglasses with red hearts reflected in them I think..

looking forward to the epi..

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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:11pm | IP Logged
Oh dear, could he have meant a filler song...?  I hope not!
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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:30pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by gardes

Oh dear, could he have meant a filler song...?  I hope not!


I don't know...and I hope not...I prefer the duet over the male version solo myself...I hope it turns out nice tomm whatever reason it has. He might have just been excited to shoot for a song...
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Posted: 19 May 2011 at 1:31pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by jpalagrawal



Rani, can you just expand...what does she say about "our store?" That his angry ways have not brought in business to their store and therefore is not working?

Loved the softening...will comment more later. Have to watch again


J,

Aginaya69 covered the scene really nicely (Clap) but I will add more comments later on.  I'll try to break down the exact line she said. 

Small comment for now...

The main thing is that she said nonchalantly as part of a bigger sentence... so she was talking about how if Guddu went a store and the owner was rude to him he would never go there and he would not buy anything from there.  Then she says if you do that then why would someone buy from our store?  Her point is that Guddu shouldn't be rude and that was the small truth in what the M&Ms said to him and even though she didn't like the way that they said it they were not wrong. So she threw in "our store" with this lecture and I think he picked up on it.

Wafah,

I love that you responded to my posts in three threads and my PMs to you in one long post. LOL, I was like... I don't remember talking about this in the forum...LOLLOL Geek

For you, HugHugHugHugHug

Edited by rani2007 - 19 May 2011 at 1:32pm

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