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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:32am | IP Logged
Yes the episode was certainly great and the best episode so far, but I didnt agree with the judging at some places:
 
My scores to the performances:
 
Josh grp dance - 7
Jalwa grp dance - 9
 
Vrushali/Avneet - 8.5
Amrita/Vaishu - 9.5
Jai Atul - 9
Dharmesh Ruturaj - 10
 
Parvez/Prince face off - the face off itself was average for me, infact out of all the face offs till now, this one I least enjoyed I think...wish they would have performed a different style but anyways agreed Prince was better but everyone knows that in this style Prince is very strong...Overall I think Parvez is a stronger and much more versatile dancer than Prince..
 
They were highly rated however, would not give them more than 8 I think...

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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:40am | IP Logged
Originally posted by luv2dance

Originally posted by Natkhatpari


he heWink nice to c that you had written similar views... i really don't get this judging sometimes...Thumbs Down 
big let down was the takkar... i still cant get over the fact how the judges were unnecessarily praising Prince... he is good no doubt in that... but this much hype...Shocked i don't think even D gets so much praises even after being on top of the best dancing/choreo/performing ladder... I feel like going n teaching the judges wht to praise n wht not to... i feel so sorry for Parvez... but loved the way he reacted with his genuine smile... he knew he was being underestimated in front of Prince but he received it in a good way... 

hope at least this judging biases doesn't continue in finale as well... Ouch



Tell me about it Disapprove I was so disappointed with Parvez n Prince judging. Agreed Prince is good at what he does but Parvez was no less. He is so much more better than Prince to be very honest Ouch The worst part was all three of them saying Parvez you tried to dance against Prince and thats good enough for you. That itself is an achievement for you. Really Shocked What a shame Thumbs Down I was extremely disappointed by the way they compared them and disregarded Parvez. I felt like they kept saying you were good, very good but better luck next time. That was so rude for me. It would have been still ok if it was anybody other than Prince coz Prince has a lot of room for improvement in comparison to Parvez. Parvez is a very good human being and that has always come across in all the episodes.

The judges told it as it is! Unless you know more than the judges I think it is childish to keep on repeating in the comments that prince got more points then derserved or parvez is better than prince or prince needs to do other styles of dance or he is over hyped. Judges for the first time gave somebody 31 out of 30 that clearly means something. Shiamak said that this was the best act of the evening, and all the judges agreed that prince owned parvez. Why this fact so hard to accept. Combined the judges have probably have more than 70-80 year of experiences, and if all the judges agree on a point that must carry some weight to it. Come on prince didn't beg to do L&P the judges requested him to do it. I agree that parvez is a really good human being but so is prince. Last takkar parvez did against alisha he totally owned her i agree, but this time prince was better.  I have also learned from this forum is that if the judges say anything about a contestant that is some members favorite they will always say  that judges are rude, biased, don't know anything, unfair, undeserving to judges etc.

But I do think that rather than prince vs parvez or dharmesh vs siddhesh it should have been parvez vs siddhesh that would have been great because the humor that both siddhesh and parvez add to their dance.
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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:45am | IP Logged
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Originally posted by Natkhatpari


he heWink nice to c that you had written similar views... i really don't get this judging sometimes...Thumbs Down 
big let down was the takkar... i still cant get over the fact how the judges were unnecessarily praising Prince... he is good no doubt in that... but this much hype...Shocked i don't think even D gets so much praises even after being on top of the best dancing/choreo/performing ladder... I feel like going n teaching the judges wht to praise n wht not to... i feel so sorry for Parvez... but loved the way he reacted with his genuine smile... he knew he was being underestimated in front of Prince but he received it in a good way... 

hope at least this judging biases doesn't continue in finale as well... Ouch



Tell me about it Disapprove I was so disappointed with Parvez n Prince judging. Agreed Prince is good at what he does but Parvez was no less. He is so much more better than Prince to be very honest Ouch The worst part was all three of them saying Parvez you tried to dance against Prince and thats good enough for you. That itself is an achievement for you. Really Shocked What a shame Thumbs Down I was extremely disappointed by the way they compared them and disregarded Parvez. I felt like they kept saying you were good, very good but better luck next time. That was so rude for me. It would have been still ok if it was anybody other than Prince coz Prince has a lot of room for improvement in comparison to Parvez. Parvez is a very good human being and that has always come across in all the episodes.

The judges told it as it is! Unless you know more than the judges I think it is childish to keep on repeating in the comments that prince got more points then derserved or parvez is better than prince or prince needs to do other styles of dance or he is over hyped. Judges for the first time gave somebody 31 out of 30 that clearly means something. Shiamak said that this was the best act of the evening, and all the judges agreed that prince owned parvez. Why this fact so hard to accept. Combined the judges have probably have more than 70-80 year of experiences, and if all the judges agree on a point that must carry some weight to it. Come on prince didn't beg to do L&P the judges requested him to do it. I agree that parvez is a really good human being but so is prince. Last takkar parvez did against alisha he totally owned her i agree, but this time prince was better.  I have also learned from this forum is that if the judges say anything about a contestant that is some members favorite they will always say  that judges are rude, biased, don't know anything, unfair, undeserving to judges etc.

But I do think that rather than prince vs parvez or dharmesh vs siddhesh it should have been parvez vs siddhesh that would have been great because the humor that both siddhesh and parvez add to their dance.

Well, isn't it clear that our opinions differ. My take on Prince is different which is what I expressed. If you think otherwise, thats okay with me. I would appreciate if you can let me have my own opinion and express itSmile

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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 12:49am | IP Logged
Originally posted by luv2dance

Originally posted by MrManagement

Originally posted by luv2dance

Originally posted by Natkhatpari


he heWink nice to c that you had written similar views... i really don't get this judging sometimes...Thumbs Down 
big let down was the takkar... i still cant get over the fact how the judges were unnecessarily praising Prince... he is good no doubt in that... but this much hype...Shocked i don't think even D gets so much praises even after being on top of the best dancing/choreo/performing ladder... I feel like going n teaching the judges wht to praise n wht not to... i feel so sorry for Parvez... but loved the way he reacted with his genuine smile... he knew he was being underestimated in front of Prince but he received it in a good way... 

hope at least this judging biases doesn't continue in finale as well... Ouch



Tell me about it Disapprove I was so disappointed with Parvez n Prince judging. Agreed Prince is good at what he does but Parvez was no less. He is so much more better than Prince to be very honest Ouch The worst part was all three of them saying Parvez you tried to dance against Prince and thats good enough for you. That itself is an achievement for you. Really Shocked What a shame Thumbs Down I was extremely disappointed by the way they compared them and disregarded Parvez. I felt like they kept saying you were good, very good but better luck next time. That was so rude for me. It would have been still ok if it was anybody other than Prince coz Prince has a lot of room for improvement in comparison to Parvez. Parvez is a very good human being and that has always come across in all the episodes.

The judges told it as it is! Unless you know more than the judges I think it is childish to keep on repeating in the comments that prince got more points then derserved or parvez is better than prince or prince needs to do other styles of dance or he is over hyped. Judges for the first time gave somebody 31 out of 30 that clearly means something. Shiamak said that this was the best act of the evening, and all the judges agreed that prince owned parvez. Why this fact so hard to accept. Combined the judges have probably have more than 70-80 year of experiences, and if all the judges agree on a point that must carry some weight to it. Come on prince didn't beg to do L&P the judges requested him to do it. I agree that parvez is a really good human being but so is prince. Last takkar parvez did against alisha he totally owned her i agree, but this time prince was better.  I have also learned from this forum is that if the judges say anything about a contestant that is some members favorite they will always say  that judges are rude, biased, don't know anything, unfair, undeserving to judges etc.

But I do think that rather than prince vs parvez or dharmesh vs siddhesh it should have been parvez vs siddhesh that would have been great because the humor that both siddhesh and parvez add to their dance.

Well, isn't it clear that our opinions differ. My take on Prince is different which is what I expressed. If you think otherwise, thats okay with me. I would appreciate if you can let me have my own opinion and express itSmile

Our opinions do differShocked and I give you permission to express your opinions Big smile I just wanted to make sure that both sides of the arguments are heardWink


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Originally posted by MrManagement


The judges told it as it is! Unless you know more than the judges I think it is childish to keep on repeating in the comments that prince got more points then derserved or parvez is better than prince or prince needs to do other styles of dance or he is over hyped. Judges for the first time gave somebody 31 out of 30 that clearly means something. Shiamak said that this was the best act of the evening, and all the judges agreed that prince owned parvez. Why this fact so hard to accept. Combined the judges have probably have more than 70-80 year of experiences, and if all the judges agree on a point that must carry some weight to it. Come on prince didn't beg to do L&P the judges requested him to do it. I agree that parvez is a really good human being but so is prince. Last takkar parvez did against alisha he totally owned her i agree, but this time prince was better.  I have also learned from this forum is that if the judges say anything about a contestant that is some members favorite they will always say  that judges are rude, biased, don't know anything, unfair, undeserving to judges etc.

But I do think that rather than prince vs parvez or dharmesh vs siddhesh it should have been parvez vs siddhesh that would have been great because the humor that both siddhesh and parvez add to their dance.

Also, I wasn't really comparing their personality when it came to the performance or the face-off. That was just an additional comment. My thoughts were solely on their dance and I don't judge performances based on my favorites. Coming to the judges scoring, I am having tough time understanding the basis of their scoring sometimes in this season. I do agree that they know what they are doing but still some of their scoring isn't making much sense to me!

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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 1:20am | IP Logged
Originally posted by luv2dance

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The judges told it as it is! Unless you know more than the judges I think it is childish to keep on repeating in the comments that prince got more points then derserved or parvez is better than prince or prince needs to do other styles of dance or he is over hyped. Judges for the first time gave somebody 31 out of 30 that clearly means something. Shiamak said that this was the best act of the evening, and all the judges agreed that prince owned parvez. Why this fact so hard to accept. Combined the judges have probably have more than 70-80 year of experiences, and if all the judges agree on a point that must carry some weight to it. Come on prince didn't beg to do L&P the judges requested him to do it. I agree that parvez is a really good human being but so is prince. Last takkar parvez did against alisha he totally owned her i agree, but this time prince was better.  I have also learned from this forum is that if the judges say anything about a contestant that is some members favorite they will always say  that judges are rude, biased, don't know anything, unfair, undeserving to judges etc.

But I do think that rather than prince vs parvez or dharmesh vs siddhesh it should have been parvez vs siddhesh that would have been great because the humor that both siddhesh and parvez add to their dance.

Also, I wasn't really comparing their personality when it came to the performance or the face-off. That was just an additional comment. My thoughts were solely on their dance and I don't judge performances based on my favorites. Coming to the judges scoring, I am having tough time understanding the basis of their scoring sometimes in this season. I do agree that they know what they are doing but still some of their scoring isn't making much sense to me!


Maybe the judges should have focused more on the technical side of the takkar and gave their reason behind why they liked prince more. Sometimes i get confused also with scoring  but when all the judges agree on something then i just take their word for it. Shiamik is  the only neutral judge on the show because he hasn't judged previous season so he has nothing to gain from unnecessarily hyping prince, that guy has trained/inspired almost every known choreographer i Bollywood and when he says that prince is excellent in L&P that statement carries lots of weight.
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Posted: 14 May 2011 at 1:31am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Natkhatpari

ok here I am with my slowest possible analysisCry jus finished watching the show...

first of all a nice episode... kudos to all dancers for their effortsClapClapClap

1. Josh group act - average (Punit said it all in his expressions ROFL) (deserved 7)

2. Jalwa group act - innovative choreo (well deserved 10)Clap loved vaishu n kishore Hug


3. Avneet/Vrush - this dance really made me feel that judges are really biased.. I mean yes her expr was nice but wht about dance. U could c avneet so many times missing or not completing her steps and vrush exp was overly done compared to avneet... since its duo i expect both to have similar kind... anyways over all dance execution was lovely i would have given them 9 (judges hyped it to 10)Confused

agreed, well today judges went emo overboard one way and other, and i feel whever avneet comes she gets more than she deserves, sweet face effect i guess,  29 was a little too much, possible that jalwa was already leading by 9 points and judges wanted to close in the margin.

4. Vaishu/ammu - these took had almost taken my heart away. loved ammu strength n vaishu eyes... wht lovely eyes she has Hug. I do agree the part with the sticks was too simple... but rest was superb. i jus loved the balancing part on the floor when vaishu stood on one leg on ammu shoulder... super super super... Heart (well deserved 9). 
yes, and good to see ammu back, finally, doing what she does best and vaishnavi has immense promise, please god dont let success go to her head ever.

5. Atul/jai - I feel so sorry for them... i somehow felt they had good choreo but it did not get connected...  ... i jus loved the finishing.. .superb jump by atul n coordinated control by Jai.. but 8 was a low score...  they deserved 9Shocked

IMO, jai messed up a bit with props and were not connecting well, right from the beginning Jai was a bit low, like from first performance, he forgot, maybe he was not well.

6. Rutu/D - ___________________________________________________ 
(Speechless like DADA). they really are a superb jodi... ummmaha to rutu baby for his fine finer finest execution n D for bringing the best in him...
(I wish geeta had given 11 for this performance) Star

7. Parvez/Prince - overly hyped prince appreciation Angry and sympathy filled parvez comments Cry
first of all they make prince do wht he is best at and ask another non expert to compete.. .which was not fair... but I shuld say Parvez was equally good... but hated judges comments... as though parvez tried best and failed terribly... i hated this part in the full episode... (on top of that 11 for prince, this was a stupid act of geeta to give him such points Angry)

waiting for another dancestatic performance filled episode tomorrow..DancingSleepy

Oh did I forget to mention manish was the best with his witty one liners n geeta superb in her improptu dance.. .she looks so fab while dancing.. . I wonder how many had crush on her while she was in the dance troop LOL

rutu and D no words except, rutu deserved the MJ band today
 and  prince pervez takkar, heights of stupidity in terms of judging. and rilli, make prince do something other than LP, and geeta giving him 11, thats why i sometimes end up disliking her, she rides so high on emo tide.

manish rocked .
 and As per VO in DID2, he had crushes on her when she was in dance troop.Big smile
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Originally posted by Natkhatpari

ok here I am with my slowest possible analysisCry jus finished watching the show...

first of all a nice episode... kudos to all dancers for their effortsClapClapClap

1. Josh group act - average (Punit said it all in his expressions ROFL) (deserved 7)

2. Jalwa group act - innovative choreo (well deserved 10)Clap loved vaishu n kishore Hug


3. Avneet/Vrush - this dance really made me feel that judges are really biased.. I mean yes her expr was nice but wht about dance. U could c avneet so many times missing or not completing her steps and vrush exp was overly done compared to avneet... since its duo i expect both to have similar kind... anyways over all dance execution was lovely i would have given them 9 (judges hyped it to 10)Confused

agreed, well today judges went emo overboard one way and other, and i feel whever avneet comes she gets more than she deserves, sweet face effect i guess,  29 was a little too much, possible that jalwa was already leading by 9 points and judges wanted to close in the margin.

4. Vaishu/ammu - these took had almost taken my heart away. loved ammu strength n vaishu eyes... wht lovely eyes she has Hug. I do agree the part with the sticks was too simple... but rest was superb. i jus loved the balancing part on the floor when vaishu stood on one leg on ammu shoulder... super super super... Heart (well deserved 9). 
yes, and good to see ammu back, finally, doing what she does best and vaishnavi has immense promise, please god dont let success go to her head ever.

5. Atul/jai - I feel so sorry for them... i somehow felt they had good choreo but it did not get connected...  ... i jus loved the finishing.. .superb jump by atul n coordinated control by Jai.. but 8 was a low score...  they deserved 9Shocked

IMO, jai messed up a bit with props and were not connecting well, right from the beginning Jai was a bit low, like from first performance, he forgot, maybe he was not well.

6. Rutu/D - ___________________________________________________ 
(Speechless like DADA). they really are a superb jodi... ummmaha to rutu baby for his fine finer finest execution n D for bringing the best in him...
(I wish geeta had given 11 for this performance) Star

7. Parvez/Prince - overly hyped prince appreciation Angry and sympathy filled parvez comments Cry
first of all they make prince do wht he is best at and ask another non expert to compete.. .which was not fair... but I shuld say Parvez was equally good... but hated judges comments... as though parvez tried best and failed terribly... i hated this part in the full episode... (on top of that 11 for prince, this was a stupid act of geeta to give him such points Angry)

waiting for another dancestatic performance filled episode tomorrow..DancingSleepy

Oh did I forget to mention manish was the best with his witty one liners n geeta superb in her improptu dance.. .she looks so fab while dancing.. . I wonder how many had crush on her while she was in the dance troop LOL

rutu and D no words except, rutu deserved the MJ band today
 and  prince pervez takkar, heights of stupidity in terms of judging. and rilli, make prince do something other than LP, and geeta giving him 11, thats why i sometimes end up disliking her, she rides so high on emo tide.

manish rocked .
 and As per VO in DID2, he had crushes on her when she was in dance troop.Big smile


Just because the judges marks differed from yours you calling judgement stupidClap This is what i can't understand that when judges who have years of experience go against the popular view and state their professional opinion they get bashedAngry. According to you judges don't know what there saying, so people should take your views over the judges?Confused It is one thing to say that you didn't understand why the judges gave those marks but it is another to raise doubt on judges ability to perform their task right by calling their judgment stupid.

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