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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:40am | IP Logged
@anu-- Ummm i don't like to use my real name in public forums. Not comfortable disclosing it.Ermm

anyhow, I guess there can never be a middle ground in this lol.LOL You see no matter how much "we" try to indianize ourselves, we just can't because after all we're still Americans. It's like how it is with Chinese-Americans or Mexican-Americans or Philippino-American kids here. It's  whole different culture within the two larger cultures. And ummm I don't feel clueless being a part of both cultures.
But from what i saw in india with all that "wanna-be-ish" thingies...ummm atleast i don't do those. If i don't know something about the culture, i ask my parents to explain it.
lol and ummm  those stereotypical NRI characters in indian telly and shows with fake hindi accents are so not how I am (can't speak for others). I try to pronounce it right...don't fake the accent...  it sounds different just like how Indian accent on english sounds different.
ahem ahem i don't say "ram" as "Ram-a"LOL 

my main point is that I try to take interest and learn about the culture.





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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:41am | IP Logged
I'm catching up on old pages of the CC ATM...and today I WON'T give a blink and miss appearance. I'm finally free from that manhoos project.

Originally posted by nureat01

Why are you here now?


Is this a way to talk to a FRIEND who has been here after sooo many days? What if I take offense? Tongue

Originally posted by nureat01



Firstly...haha yeah we're finally done with 69...Shreya's dirty mind can't come up with anything for 70 I think so the innocent junta of this CC is safe for now ;-)

As for the rest...honestly I fear having kids in this country in some ways...I mean how on earth do you balance out their identity crisis issues? I would never want my kids to grow up as one-dimensional ABCD type caricatures either...better that they become totally gora-fied rather than be like na idhar ke na udhar ke...LOL...all this "cultural identification" stuff has no point if it's in name only...like you said, most of them don't get the MEANING of what they are doing...they are just going through the motions to show that they are still in touch with their culture...which is what I mostly see around me out here in the U.S.


@bold...ehmm..I bet she can...I can. Tongue If you have a 'good' dirty mind...trust me...you could always come up with something for everything.

@blue...Arey don't worry...if you think about such a thing...you'd definitely work on and would try to balance out the identity issues of your kids. More than the kids, I feel, its the parents there who are confused...have identity crises. From the families I have seen, more than half of them don't even realize what their children are going through..


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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:42am | IP Logged
Hmmm Anu - A very very profound question. I don't know if I have all the answers yet. Still, I believe that parents play a huge role in their children's upbringing.

If you see today, even back home the parents of the children growing up in metropolitan cities like Mumbai, Delhi etc face the same issues with westernization. Kids lying to their parents, wanting a taste of the fast life, sex scandals, vices like smoking/drinking/drugs, etc... I mean there is desi culture there right? Then what has happened to the kids of today, back home? Why are they falling prey to all these vices and ripping apart the values we hold so dear? 

As opposed to this, we come to US with the time stamped images of India in our minds and that is the type of culture we try to imbibe on our kids. So in some respect I think we try to bring up kids more strictly here than back home. These days whenever I go back home, I get a cultural shock everytime. Let me site an example, when we went to India last time, my son who was learning to speak was reciting bhajans that I taught him, whereas the neighbors kids in India were singing "Munni badnaam hui" without even understanding the meaning of it, while their parents were nodding/laughing approvingly. In a nutshell, things back home are not as rosy as you think anymore, Anu.

As far as the "confused" state goes ... we as parents have to try to strike the balance between being a parent and being a friend. Secondly, there are some things that we as parents have to be flexible about by having an open mind. On my part, as a parent, all I care about is the fact that my son learns to first respect himself, then his parents, and to some extent even his culture. Most of all, he needs to be a better human being first.

I am not sure how to go about doing that Anu. And I am as scared and apprehensive about the entire process, as anyone else in my situation is ... *sigh* I never knew it was so hard to be a parent.

 

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by incandescence


Originally posted by nureat01

Why are you here now?


Is this a way to talk to a FRIEND who has been here after sooo many days? What if I take offense? Tongue

You? Offense? Shauk se loSleepySleepySleepy

@bold...ehmm..I bet she can...I can. Tongue If you have a 'good' dirty mind...trust me...you could always come up with something for everything. LOL I guess your dirty mind is SUPERIOR to Shreya's thenTongue

@blue...Arey don't worry...if you think about such a thing...you'd definitely work on and would try to balance out the identity issues of your kids. More than the kids, I feel, its the parents there who are confused...have identity crises. From the families I have seen, more than half of them don't even realize what their children are going through..Parenting seems ridiculously difficultOuchConfusedLOL...I feel sorry for my parentsLOL


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Good Morning to all...

And a new CC begins .. wonder which other kuwa is Shreya going to dig with this CC Tongue LOL

Interesting discussion .. I can't contribute much with this. I don't have kids, so I have no feeling how they would have turned out LOL But I have been to enough Indian cultural functions to see the difference. But that I guess will be true, whatever and how much ever, it has been taught or shown, finally growing up in the atmosphere will play a bigger role.

So, an ABCD will seem somewhat wannabeish when they try to do something more Indianish and an Indian will be feel wannabeish when they try to ape the western culture. Of course, this is just a general statement, there would be exceptions.

Though, I am happy to see the kids that have grown up here in US, speak the regional languages apart from English. Accent or not, doesn't matter. Not that it stops me from making fun of their accents Tongue I am nasty .. hehe

But yes, I cringe more when Indians of the first generation put on a fake accent, whether they are speaking English or Hindi or any other regional language. Now that irks me to no end.



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Anddd HH and SN did it again...ROFL I can't stop laughing thinking about the fangirls who wanted BnB to do the deed. I imagine HH and SN will be laughing their heads off at the usual BnB fangirls' frustration. As for me, I'm pretty happy about the epi.

Has anyone other than Anu watched it? Not wanna ruin it for you guys.

I guess we should wait till at least Mels watch it..

P.S..I cried. Nothing in the world makes me more happy than crying for fiction.

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:50am | IP Logged
Originally posted by incandescence


@blue...Arey don't worry...if you think about such a thing...you'd definitely work on and would try to balance out the identity issues of your kids. More than the kids, I feel, its the parents there who are confused...have identity crises. From the families I have seen, more than half of them don't even realize what their children are going through..




WORD! It is definitely a difficult and confusing situation for parents. but then again i can't speak for parents. LOL

@LadyM-- Oh my gosh! tell me about it! it is a culture shock because you hear from your grandparents and parents about culture and stuff and then when we go there, it's like my cousins, my brother and I seemed totally out of place. We seemed more "indian" than people thereLOL.

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Posted: 13 May 2011 at 9:53am | IP Logged
Originally posted by LadyMcbeth

Hmmm Anu - A very very profound question. I don't know if I have all the answers yet. Still, I believe that parents play a huge role in their children's upbringing.

If you see today, even back home the parents of the children growing up in metropolitan cities like Mumbai, Delhi etc face the same issues with westernization. Kids lying to their parents, wanting a taste of the fast life, sex scandals, vices like smoking/drinking/drugs, etc... I mean there is desi culture there right? Then what has happened to the kids of today, back home? Why are they falling prey to all these vices and ripping apart the values we hold so dear? 

As opposed to this, we come to US with the time stamped images of India in our minds and that is the type of culture we try to imbibe on our kids. So in some respect I think we try to bring up kids more strictly here than back home.

In a nutshell, things back home are not as rosy as you think anymore, Anu
. I don't have any illusions on that front, LadyM...I know things are very different back home now...ofcourse we do still invariably live in our time bubble of when we left it...that can't be helped...and it's not like I don't find the wannabeness of today's kids in India just as annoying...but the issue with the kids here seems even more complicated to me cuz you're dealing with the usual issues and on TOP of that that the identity/culture issues as well...makes me think that parenting out here would be 10 times tougher then...I think the issues of the vices that kids can get into are universal now...you can't just say that oh they're Indian so culture will stop them from getting into that.

As far as the "confused" state goes ... we as parents have to try to strike the balance between being a parent and being a friend. Secondly, there are some things that we as parents have to be flexible about by having an open mind. On my part, as a parent, all I care about is the fact that my son learns to first respect himself, then his parents, and to some extent even his culture. Most of all, he needs to be a better human being first. Very nicely put, LadyM...I agree...being a good human being matters before anything else :-)

 

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