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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 12:58pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by MeySimi

Gulaal does declare the rishta will be pure and that she will find her devrani. She had a check on her emotions way back then.
But as mentioned, in an incident, the child questions her if she would also cry like Sudha Babhi if he finds a dulhan for himself. During Holi, a drunk/laced Kesar says Gulaal meri patni hai. Durng the wedding of his sister Rewa, he declares that he is "shaadi-shuda" and Gulaal is his wife and they also perform the Paad Puja ceremony as a couple.
Now at such an impressionable age, Kesar was happy with the idea of "being married" because he was happy to have Gulaal around.
All these declarations from Kesar has happened in front of Gulaal. Cant expect the child to live on "once heard, then forgotten" comment about another wife for himself in future. Because he was convinced and happy with the thought of being married to Gulaal. That was what Kesar was cribbing about since when Vasant's marriage was fixed with Gulaal that he has flicked the girl he had chosen as his bride.
Motabha had warned her about the feelings of the chld when he grows up.

I think more than anything, she was SO SURE of her own feelings that everything would work out fine. She will never open her heart to another man again...! Not the right way to go about it but thats what she thought.

And I also agree, I don't want him to become like Vasant. Kesar is much more appealing than Vasant to me anyway Tongue

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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 1:31pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by MeySimi

If ever Gulaal has to love Kesar, she should love him as he is. She should not accept him when he turns into a clone of Vasntish behavior. She should not love Kesar with the belief that "Vasant ki aatma usme basti hai". Sorry that would not help in the real marriage terms. Its a delicate issue. And that would be unfair to Kesar though he seems to be willing to accept her with her memories of Vasant intact
 
 
dont worry kesar will fullfill all his bro's dream remaining kesar himself he isnt dumbheaded fool who dance on the fingers of their better half ...example kesar went to the hospital himself  gulaal didnt forced him to do he does  what he  believes  ofcourse gulaal is his guide but ultimately its on him to take the road or not... gulaal knows kesar is different but she wants him to do  good things like vasant did she wants him to be responsible like vasant towards his family and his village she doesnt say dont be angry as vasant never show his anger instead  she wants him   to control his anger  ... her intention is to make him a good human being thats it ...gulaal loved her husband dearly it will be difficult for her to except anyone as her husband and more difficult if her husband is child before her...".vasant ki atma usme basti hai" was not  said in romantic terms but out of respect and belief she has in kesar...!
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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 1:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *Reemz*

Originally posted by MeySimi

Gulaal does declare the rishta will be pure and that she will find her devrani. She had a check on her emotions way back then.
But as mentioned, in an incident, the child questions her if she would also cry like Sudha Babhi if he finds a dulhan for himself. During Holi, a drunk/laced Kesar says Gulaal meri patni hai. Durng the wedding of his sister Rewa, he declares that he is "shaadi-shuda" and Gulaal is his wife and they also perform the Paad Puja ceremony as a couple.
Now at such an impressionable age, Kesar was happy with the idea of "being married" because he was happy to have Gulaal around.
All these declarations from Kesar has happened in front of Gulaal. Cant expect the child to live on "once heard, then forgotten" comment about another wife for himself in future. Because he was convinced and happy with the thought of being married to Gulaal. That was what Kesar was cribbing about since when Vasant's marriage was fixed with Gulaal that he has flicked the girl he had chosen as his bride.
Motabha had warned her about the feelings of the chld when he grows up.

I think more than anything, she was SO SURE of her own feelings that everything would work out fine. She will never open her heart to another man again...! Not the right way to go about it but thats what she thought.

And I also agree, I don't want him to become like Vasant. Kesar is much more appealing than Vasant to me anyway Tongue
 
well she cant expalin husband wife realtionship to a child as then child will ask more question out of curiousity which will be difficult to explain she was waiting for the right time ...as child u r so unaware of any sort of  its like falling in love with your teacher fav actors or sports person or anyone really special as child but as child grew he realizes that its rubbish ...that gulaal was thinking all the way...she cant relate kesar feeling as romantic feeling  as childcant even think in dreams  she use to laugh at those innocent acts... she did what she thought is right ...she send him for higher studies to enlighten him to educate him ...about the world that is purpose of education i m sure kesar must be knowing that his marriage to gulaal is illegal ...gulaal  thought that wen kesar will grew up he will realize that this marriage is baseless ...but fate has some other plans kesar is developing feeling for her its really scary for her we have to see now how does she thinks about kesar ...kesar as child always or kesar as mature person with whom she can spent her life happily


Edited by arti07 - 10 May 2011 at 1:41pm
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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 4:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *Reemz*

Yesterday, MotaBa's words made Kesar feel guilty about not giving Gulaal the respect she deserves and today he gave her plenty by paying tribute to her efforts of keeping Vasant's dream alive. For me, as soon as he said 'Gulaal', the whole scene became overwhelming. The emotions of both Gulaal and Kesar came out as they remembered someone they both loved deeply. Beautiful acting by Manasi and Neil. I always say this but I'll say it again anyway...I just wish Gulaal saw how Kesar's eyes brim with so much love for her. He was so happy to see her happy...!Ouch I wish the same that she saw Kesar has much love for her, but at the moment the love is not the love for a spouse its the love for just the lady called gulaal who is wife of his dead brother, the love for a man to a woman who thinks that she is mine is still misssing and I am waiting for that day to come where kesar will look at gulaal as my woman...

It's hard to guess what's going through Gulaal's mind. She must be slightly worried about the recent happenings with Kesar's overreaction, his protectiveness and obviously SOMEONE put the bangles in her room. Does she have a doubt in her mind about Kesar's feelings towards her? Its difficult to say.  I think for her, a relationship with Kesar is beyond her imagination. She doesn't even expect him to be in love with her.
it sure is difficult to say that Gulaal is doubting kesar's feelings towards her when i think kesar himself has not got it clear, tht he loves her or he LOVES her, we all have seen that kesar has loved gulaal since he was a kid. I do agree that relationship with kesar has beyond her imagination but i think kesar too right now has the same notion, it will change for sure once kesar-talli marriage is up
Jamuna Kaki was at it again with her pati-patni talk which got Gulaal thinking...

No idea what the precap was. Anyone seen it?
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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 5:59pm | IP Logged
I honestly dont see him becoming a clone of Vasant (like he says today he will fulfill the dreams and walks on the path Vasant did to achieve them etc), they are two different ppl, the only thing that Gulaal has wanted and also Vasant is to see Kesar be a successful man and step up to responsiblities and fulfill them and even now - its all about him being like Vasant meaning dont become him but be like how he was, in a sense the ideal man all around and take on Vasant's responsiblities and fulfill them
 
To me its never been about become exactly like Vasant
 
When Gulaal says atma basi hai, it just means that Kesar is Vasant's brother and the same spirit and strength Vasant had - Kesar has that in him somewhere, and be the kind of man he was, ideal man all around- is that wrong No it isnt because she doesnt want a clone of Vasant in him or sees him in him and so on
 
I hope Kesar keeps his intensity, coz its one of the factors in his love for Gulaal, the intense love he has and so on


Edited by Lennie - 10 May 2011 at 6:30pm
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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 9:40pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by *Reemz*

Originally posted by Lennie

Like you say Reemz, its beyond Gulaal's imagination to even think or see Kesar like that and to even think that he could be in love with her and so on, that what he says and does has any other meaning then what they share as what they did before - just Kesar-Gulaal
 
And thats why she is always and has been Talli and Kesar - and thats why i say its natural for her to say it and so on
 
But like i said before and you just said she is worried on one hand of his overreation and his blind fury and what he could do to anyone who says anything about her and so on or what trouble could follow with how Kesar is and so on
 
And i do think and hope that one day Gulaal joins the dot up and see what Kesar has been doing esp the bangles bit and not forget the letters
 
If more things like this keep happening, all i can say is Gulaal might just get a subtle inkling to what Kesar feels in that way
 
Bottomline is Gulaal's feelings have to be taken extra care of it, it cant be ever just like or typical love realisation scenes lead women have, Gulaal is different and the situation and everything, to even think on the line of seeing Kesar as more will shot her down like anything, and the inner shock she will have and so on, will rock her to the core and so on
 
Opening her heart is one thing but to see Kesar, the Kesar she knows feeling like that about her is like a shocker (something she wouldnt expect in a million years) and i would not be surprised if Gulaal slaps him for even thinking like that
 
 

You said it all. I can really imagine her slapping Kesar if he does ever confess. There maybe moments where she'll be cold towards him (like she was today in the bangle scene) because here he is showing so much affection towards her but she's confused as to WHY! Heck even Kesar doesn't understand his own feelings so obviously Gulaal will understand a bit later too. Then her side of emotions come to surface but as of now its all about how Kesar is feeling towards her.

@ bold..Reema...That slapping is inevitable... It is going to be there and that is one sure shot...They cannot show Gulaal falling for him so easily...That would not go well with the wholesome audience and also with the image as totally Vasant Dedicated Gulaal, she has to be put up on that high pedestal...she cannot be shown to have just fallen for Kesar...
And you are right, it is Kesar's journey of realization of his feelings towards her and are we  not loving each moment of thisEmbarrassed
Wonderful discussions btw by you guysBig smile

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