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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 9:56am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Sookie-

Originally posted by night13


I feel as though privacy is on a fence between freedom of speech and others which require public to disclose private information! Do we still have the right to be let alone!



I think you have somewhat answered the question in above few lines.

Except for lockers and washrooms, I guess most of the places where cameras are installed are fairly public right? I do not expect privacy in public places thus I do not see any harm in those places except for lockers and washrooms. Even though they are for public use, people who use it would definitely prefer it to be private about their business. But assuming (the worst) that one in five who uses that locker is a criminal, then entire private affair becomes a moot point, no?

I am more paranoid about misusing this information about public which is far more dangerous than disclosing it. Every ATM machine has a camera installed in front of it which totally freaks me out. I know that they are not aware of what we type and stuff, but still!

In the end its all about balance I guess.

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This was surely an unexpected surprise visit... though a good one! :)

Agree with you to some extend but not full, as I do mind being watched and that too without my knowledge.  The free society we trust  with freedom of movement, choice and self-reliance, thus is invaded and it gives a false sense of security.

With current state-of-art that technology offers to withdraw money from an ATM with simple scan of your eyes, and no bank cards are needed! To your point, it is pretty freaky. :)



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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 10:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by night13

Originally posted by -Sookie-

Originally posted by night13


I feel as though privacy is on a fence between freedom of speech and others which require public to disclose private information! Do we still have the right to be let alone!



I think you have somewhat answered the question in above few lines.

Except for lockers and washrooms, I guess most of the places where cameras are installed are fairly public right? I do not expect privacy in public places thus I do not see any harm in those places except for lockers and washrooms. Even though they are for public use, people who use it would definitely prefer it to be private about their business. But assuming (the worst) that one in five who uses that locker is a criminal, then entire private affair becomes a moot point, no?

I am more paranoid about misusing this information about public which is far more dangerous than disclosing it. Every ATM machine has a camera installed in front of it which totally freaks me out. I know that they are not aware of what we type and stuff, but still!

In the end its all about balance I guess.

S


This was surely an unexpected surprise visit... though a good one! :)

Agree with you to some extend but not full, as I do mind being watched and that too without my knowledge.  The free society we trust  with freedom of movement, choice and self-reliance, thus is invaded and it gives a false sense of security.

With current state-of-art that technology offers to withdraw money from an ATM with simple scan of your eyes, and no bank cards are needed! To your point, it is pretty freaky. :)



Night, true I agree everything about freedom, choice and self-reliance. But with the amount of stuff that happens around us, there has to be some amount of regulation which governs safety of the citizens.

(Please, lets not even start about ATMs. Who said its safe!)

Moving away from cameras, think about internet. Take India-Forums website for example. For every post we make there are these words written - "IP Logged". That pretty much gives out my location, my internet service provider and of course my IP!  How safe is it anyway!!!

I know that in the beginning it was to track everyone from pranksters to cyber criminals but now everyone is under the radar.

With cell phones, we have GPS to track.

So where is privacy anyway? We are watched, tracked and monitored.

All there is left, is a stamp of bar code or something on the base of our necks :-) (Remember Dark Angel?) Stern Smile

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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 10:19am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Sookie-



Night, true I agree everything about freedom, choice and self-reliance. But with the amount of stuff that happens around us, there has to be some amount of regulation which governs safety of the citizens.

(Please, lets not even start about ATMs. Who said its safe!)

Moving away from cameras, think about internet. Take India-Forums website for example. For every post we make there are these words written - "IP Logged". That pretty much gives out my location, my internet service provider and of course my IP!  How safe is it anyway!!!

I know that in the beginning it was to track everyone from pranksters to cyber criminals but now everyone is under the radar.

With cell phones, we have GPS to track.

So where is privacy anyway? We are watched, tracked and monitored.

All there is left, is a stamp of bar code or something on the base of our necks :-) (Remember Dark Angel?) Stern Smile

S

@Bold: Yes, you are right about IF. I wonder why is it needed. If it is regarding the fear of MIDs, is it really worth it? It's the question of privacy here. This IP logged thing can prove to be dangerous. Even if it is there, it should be accessible only by the higher authorities and not all.


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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 10:20am | IP Logged
Originally posted by night13



Agree with you to some extend but not full, as I do mind being watched and that too without my knowledge. 

Most of the offices and shops under CCTV surveillance do have displays put up informing the public about the surveillance.
What irritates me most is the pesky unsolicited sms and tele marketing calls! I consider that as gross violation of my privacy. Phone tapping and shadowing  someone would also constitute invasion of privacy. Unless done for security reasons that too after sufficient circumstantial evidence it needs to be curtailed.

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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 10:25am | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by night13



Agree with you to some extend but not full, as I do mind being watched and that too without my knowledge. 

Most of the offices and shops under CCTV surveillance do have displays put up informing the public about the surveillance.
What irritates me most is the pesky unsolicited sms and tele marketing calls! I consider that as gross violation of my privacy. Phone tapping and shadowing  someone would also constitute invasion of privacy. Unless done for security reasons that too after sufficient circumstantial evidence it needs to be curtailed.

@Bold: Oh dear! That's so irritating. Waste of time...
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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 10:29am | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Doe.

Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by night13



Agree with you to some extend but not full, as I do mind being watched and that too without my knowledge. 

Most of the offices and shops under CCTV surveillance do have displays put up informing the public about the surveillance.
What irritates me most is the pesky unsolicited sms and tele marketing calls! I consider that as gross violation of my privacy. Phone tapping and shadowing  someone would also constitute invasion of privacy. Unless done for security reasons that too after sufficient circumstantial evidence it needs to be curtailed.

@Bold: Oh dear! That's so irritating. Waste of time...
Imagine yourself having a nap and you get woken up just to hear an unknown voice asking you if you want a credit card , home loan , a pizza and what not ! It takes the utmost restraint not to retort angrily for having been woken so rudely.

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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 11:09am | IP Logged
^^ I know. Been there Big smile
It's irritating. You can't even switch off your phone, coz you might get important calls. 
Besides that, many people get duped too because of these ads.
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Posted: 10 May 2011 at 11:18am | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Doe.

Originally posted by night13

Originally posted by .Doe.

Depends on where the "Cameras" are put. Smile


The camera.. to my Fav! subject...<lol>
There are 'surveillance' cameras everywhere, schools, banks, sidewalks, airports, office buildings,  washrooms, locker rooms, etc.. There is no limit under the laws which govern these facilities to put up cameras. Some think that having camera is great monitoring device to prevent criminal activities but I think it's an invasion of privacy.



Ahh, okies. I get it. While cameras are needed in some of the above places like mentioned - Banks, schools, etc..I somehow cannot comprehend why are they in washrooms. That is taking it a bit too far, and yes, it's the invasion of privacy.

Recently too, as we saw in the Royal wedding, it is invasion of privacy. While I accept I enjoyed the wedding, at the same time, if I sit down and think, would I want my wedding to be broadcast that way, the answer would be no. Maybe it's because they are Royalty & stuff, I still cannot justify it. I enjoyed it though :P
And don't get me started on what cameras did to Diana, it is horrible. Dead


There is a fine line between when you choose right to privacy vs your privacy is invaded. The royal-wedding was a public event as their position and responsibility towards the public and the right to view the event in open.

I totally agree with you on the Princess Diana's death was an horrible event.

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