Originally posted by why6Ok, friends I am here substituting for Misti. Since I can't imitate her humorous style, I will do it my way. Misti will join later on.
Thanks Angie for starting your style commentary also..hope we see this more oftern. You n misti work in tandem to give this forum some memorable moments through your detailed discussions on various topics and mostly your humorous bantering which makes CB more interesting to read on this forum...
Misti: Your commentary is needed today. So please don't skip it.
Only read this starting topic..guess Misti also written her expert comments later in this thread..why she wud not write here..its Jai Veeru
So, today I will start with the main themes.
1. Obnoxious Fruitcake (Dev) and Desperate Phuljhari (Radhika)
wildly hilarious adjectives for Radev...i just wish to see Avinas reaction on reading their names here
Fruitcake is walking 10 feet away from Phuljhari because he is afraid that she is contagious and her faith can rub on him. So, he is walking with her to show her the spot where she can install Kanha (next week's episodes where fruitcake would be looking at Phuljhari covertly while she walks around looking beautiful). Please give us those moments to make up for looking at grumpy fruitcake.Yes Angie i belive CVs read your suggestion for Kanha murti sthapana in the garden to give more chances for Papa and Mummy to stare each other and Papa fruitcake everytime falling for her..do not worry they willl give these covert moments btn Radev..these are the carrots which Cvs wud throw everyday for Avina/Radev lovers. Anyways till now they did not develope Radev relation so now they will try this by accidently making Rads come in front of Dev, lots of collison in PB coming nxt
Point: Why are chunnu munnu so bent on making Dev obnoxious. Is it because they ended CB1 on 3+ TRPs and decided that people liked to see Dev being nasty and unapologetic and Radhika running after him and pleading with him to accept her. So they decided that this is the way they can gain these short-term TRPs. Never mind that people stuck with CB1 because they had fallen in love with those characters and wanted to see whether Dev would be shown apologizing for his behavior towards Radhika and Amma would get her punishment.
Why are they making Radhika so desperate? They are showing Dev mocking Radhika and her belief and then putting conditions that he would accept her if she cures Rohan completely, make sure his family is happy and he (Dev) starts believing in childhood marriage completely? Ok, so Rohan gets cured and his family is happy when Dadaji is cured too. In that case, the will is read and it is found that Dev is RP but needed to be married by 23 and hence a wife is needed. Then he will start believing that Kanha made that marriage happen because otherwise the wealth would go to charity. In that case, all his 3 conditions to Radhika are fulfilled and he will accept her as if he is doing her the favor. What crap. He will accept Radhika because again it suits his family.
Chunnu munnu, real Radha was very proud. She let Kanha go when she realized that he has to go to Mathura to fulfil his destiny and eventually become a King. She did not plead with him to take her with him and nor did she plead with him to marry her. You have already destroyed Dev's character and now you are bringing down Radhika too with this pleading.
The tracks would still continue if Radhika does her work with dedication (take care of Rohan, Dadaji and do her puja) but does not approach Dev. She has already stated her position and desire to Dev. What is the use of these repetitive dialogues where Dev only across as extremely selfish and cruel? They are in the same house now and so will be interacting. Let Radhika live there with dignity and not be shown approaching Dev unnecessarily. Show him starting to question himself and his cruel behavior. Change him while keeping Radhika constant. The scenes between them won't look forced and audience would be able to tolerate Dev.
Instead of showing repetitive dialogues between Dev and RAdhika,, can you not show quiet reflection on Dev's part where he blames himself and feels guilty for forcing Radhika to marry Rohan despite her vehement denial. Can you not show him feeling guilty that it was Rohan who started the fire with his rage and could have killed Radhika? Why this unconcern for Radhika's safety? This is not spiritual love. Yes, people in spiritual love can get angry with their partner and even behave badly towards them. Dev is doing that. Then why not give the same opportunity to Radhika. She is also human. Show her feeling hurt that Dev is behaving like that with her. Show her feeling anger at his selfishness and show her answering him back. She doesn't have to shout at him but can question his behavior.
Yes Angie Dev being in Abhay mod now or even
worse with Rads chasing
him and he always saying mera parivar, meri biwi (here bahi jaisa
dost), mera baccha (again rohan..kid for papa friutcake)...I hated the
trcak in CB1 where they completly destroyed Dev and here if they show
him standing mutely and not applying his Brain and Heart together then
i have major issue with future trcak. I wasnt following CB for some
time in btn and when i catched up with the track (from ME) after
reading some posts here, i kind of guessed abt the track of Radev under
one roof with Rads pretending to be fake wife but what was unexpected
was making Dev shout at Rad, make mockery of her belief and continuosly
balme her for everything. CVs could hav shown his outburts at first (if
they really wanted that melodrammatic angle) but later on his breakdown
in front of Rads, his helpnessless wud attract more sympathy for him
hence viewers wud connect with him- like CB1 rads. Here i see one
selfish person so most of the time i cannot help but hate Dev fully
knowing that he will understand Rads one day but my only worry is by
that time CB2 should not be made Rads/her fight/her mahaanta story alon
(like in the last months of CB1) coz i had alrways considered CB as
RaDev iternal love story...So moulding Dev is necessary here to make
this track more palatable. Even if Cvs plan to make Dev realize his
folly i want them to make it conspicuouse bcoz destryoing lead
characters will not go down well for long and here Viewers love/adore
Another point of making Rads look desperate is one of their copy pase
formula of CB1..Rads chasing Abahy to convince he is her husband...you
made it very clear-here Rads told Dev abt her main motto of coming in
PB/her belief now she should not pursue Dev otherwise its unlike
Radharani...i wud want to see jealous Fruitcake and open/relaxed
Dev and Rads make the backbone of this story and better not meddle with
them and focus on their chemistry, make them outspoken specially Dev.
2. Dadaji, Kabutarni (Maheswari) and their conversation
I like Dadaji as he has expressive eyes that show anger, taunts, amusement and tenderness. But I am getting tired of Kabutarni's dialogues where she is repeating the same words. Can't you show Dadaji's thoughts instead? I know you are trying to create mystery whether Dev is RP or not. But at least show Dadaji thinking about Radhika and wondering if she is the one that is sent by Kanha to make things right. Afterall, he has seen her daring. He knows that she loves Dev and vice versa and yet got married to Rohan against her will. But she is entering the house without any emotion despite Padma's disapproval. What is her motive for doing so? Can't he be showing wondering about that?
But one thing. They haven't shown too much interaction between Radhika and Dadaji. But there seem to be some chemistry between them when she was shown asking for blessings. So show their interaction and it would be a relief from Kabutarni and Dadaji's repetitious scenes. Actually since Daima is useless these days, why not let her go to some yatra and Phuljhari can navigate Dadaji around. I prefer to watch those scenes than between growling, obnoxious Dev and desperate Phuljari as well as between Kabutarni and Dadaji.
I too hope Dadaji to become some support system for Phuljhari first and then for Dev like Dadi in CB1. He is the only sane person right now in PB. They made BB as some dictator, Vikrat/Mohini are destroyed like Arjun/Mrinalini with not much role thna repeatedly insulting Dev and Rads. Padma is make insecure mother who cannot see who is the culprit, Diama she is someone who i suppose is included only to reveal the true bloodline of RP i mean the real third grandson otherwise i dont see her role in PB.
3. The closed doors of the temple
Why am I getting the feeling that in a month or so, Radhika will be bringing a hammer and breaking that lock (reminds me of that ridiculous scene from Parineeta where Saif was shown breaking the wall between Shekar's house and Lolita's house). She will be doing it with Kabutarni acting as Saif's father with Padma shouting at the back (CB, do it . Do it CB). See Rohan would be cured by that time and maybe Dadaji may be moving his hands and feets etc. Still would be mute as otherwise he would expose Maheswari. In any case, Rohan would be again wanting Radhika. So Padma would be now in her corner and would also get cured of her tantrums (so filling two of Dev's conditons). That's why this scene from Parineeta can be copied exactly. I don't want Phuljhari to wait for Dev's 3rd condtion to be fulfilled. Leave Phuljhari before that happens. He needs to pay for his actions.Rads fighting/handling everything seems to be the main focus in near future (to show her mahan)..be it convincing fruitcake, taking care of baby basamasur, taking insults from PAdma/mohini, fighting BB, takingcare of Dadaji...and in CBland CB/Rads can hnadle situations like these singlehandedly so i do not worry abt these samll issues
4. Hospital Scene
do they make hospital scenes so comic? First of all everyone is looking at sleeping Rohan. Then when doctor annouces that Rohan is about to be awake, everyone leans forward in sync. The doctor announces as soon as Rohan starts behaving like a kid that he has gone back 12 years (what is it with this magic number). How does he know that Rohan has gone back exactly 12 years ago. Why not 10? Why not 14? Just by his dialogues, the doctor knows this. Ok...whatever...magic number..haha Angie so we now see Why6 to Why12 its weird to use 12 number everywhr. i belive its some astrologer adviced DJs to use 12
5. Baby bhasmasur (11-year Rohan) is born
Have to say baby bhasmasur is amusing and would be probably avenging Phuljhari's insults by passing funny but truthful comments. He would be making Holika (Padma here. Misti you change the name later on) jealous when he would insist that his foster Mama Phuljhari feed him instead of Holika. Holika is now in full tantrum form and would be abusing Mama Phuljhari with silent spectator fruitcake frowing at Phuljhari. So want baby bhasmasur to put his hand on Holika to make her silent.
But a question on this too. Did find Saurav amusing but which 11 year old behave this this? My five year old nephew acts more mature than this. 11 years are almost like teenagers where they mouth ultra smart dialogues and are not scared of needles.
He seems more like a 4 year old to me with his facial expressions and dialogues. Chunnu munnu, why make him a 10 year old? Couldn't you make him a 2 year old or something like that.
By the way, Misti you were right. Fruitcake did act like Papa fruitcake today. Phuljhari is not yet Mama Phuljari but she would be become one next week. I have a feeling that you were right about your hunch that baby bhasmasur may be on right path once Phuljhari takes him under her care. But regardless of his mental age, baby bhasmasur sounds promising in otherwise dull show.
Papa Fruitcake was good too when he was trying to assure baby bhasmasur by saying that please get the injection and Papa would make it right for you. Mama Phuljhari was looking horrified though at the thought of taking care of this baby. Well in Misti's words, bhugto...who asked you to promise this to fruitcake...Wud love to see mommy phuljari taking care baby basmasur and papa fruitcake feelingjealous or whatever but nice situation thta wud be
It was fun to read hospital scene in your ishtyle and i can imagine already half wit rohan acting more like fully retard child..i dont know how this actor who playes rohan is performing but i can imagine him doing this childact after wtaching his fire scene..wud be fun to see his tantrums
Finally, the precap
Holika is now in full form and the word "Manhoos" has been replaced by "Kali parchayi (black shadow) for Radhika. Anyway, Phuljhari will be able to handle that. But once this is over and that implies curing of Baby Bhasmasur and Dadaji, I want Phuljhari to reject fruitcake publicly and leave this house. Let fruitcake learn to regret his actions, become desperate in love and chase Phuljhari by falling at her feet and asking for forgiveness. Then I want an handsome mature guy (not Rohan) to come and beat up fruitcake. Phuljari should flirt with the handsome guy. They can easily show it as this time Phuljhari went to Gurukul and college. They can show that a handsome guy who used to be childhood friend of Phuljhari and was her classmate at Gurukul is back and is interested in her.Personally hate to see such regressive themes/dialougues used in CB to give its more authentic touch for religious pr spititual story whr Khana comes for his bhakts rescue...I hated everytime Amma used to torture Rads saying these words n now Padma will use such words. Now common they are Brahmins/Purohits-why the god fearing people are projected this way
Thnaks Angie really njoyed rading your take...wish i can read all the interesting posts in here.