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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:15am | IP Logged
Hey,
I wont point at anyone.Big smileSo I don't think none should get offended.
However, if you see, all the fans pick up the heroine more easily claiming her as wrong in every aspect.
I wont blame and tell all the Abhay fans who claim themselves as Abhiya fans to stop loving Abhay?
No !! Why should I also? Everyone has their opinions.
But, the thing which bugs all is that if someone is Abhay fan, let him/her claim that he/she is rather than addressing him/herself as 'Abhiya fan'.Just don't claim as Abhiya fan.Embarrassed
I am bringing other show here, but I am die hard Armaan fan, But I never claimed myself as AR fan because I genuinely never loved AR only and nor any couple.

But there are REALLY genuine Abhiya fans here too :)

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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:15am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Chill_Out

Of course it's all about Abhay. Is that even a question? Why should Pia's perspective be considered? She's not the oh-so-poor-suffering-byronic-hero of the show. I apologise for my sarcasm, I know it's not appreciated but I'm annoyed at the biased opinions I've been coming across since months on the forum. It really puts me off. I don't blame people for supporting their favourites but objectively, other characters should be kept in mind as well and not treated as punching bags whenever they so much as pinch the hero. I love Abhay as much as anyone else in the forum but that doesn't mean I turn a blind eye to other characters. 
 
 
Bang on, reason why i decided to write a post actually. The unbalanced views does annoy one.
If there is any explanation to give i guess its that, this story is what we could say extra intense, more deep than usuall, when it comes to the main love story and itw two main leads. which would basically mean more feelings involved for attached viewers to deal with. And as girls the easiest target to throw our frustration to harm our hero is the heroine who is directly connected to him. But well sometimes , at least in one case the view should be different and in favour of others one would think.
As for Abhay, well, for me this show is Abhiya! its not just abhay or just Piya, its Abhiya...so yes even i love him equally. And honestly, views apart, i think even TRPs showed its abt them together, the show is only succesful only if  the scripts goes around both of them, equally. Its a pity that views expressed here generally comes from the minority.
 
 
Coming to your post, very well said and well put and it has gotten even me genuinely confused. This show was suppose to be about a girl who comes to Dd and falls in love with a non-human. It was suppose to trace BOTH their journeys and it is. However, majority are just looking at Abhay's journey. Fair enough. Can't really change that. For me, this show was, is and will always be about AbhIya. For some others, it's only about Abhay. It's proven with the countless threads regarding how Pia doesn't deserve Abhay and how Maithili should've been alive or how she should come back. Strange, considering we haven't even got all that insight into Maithili. But who needs it anyway? Abhay was happy with her, that's enough na? In my eyes, if Pia doesn't deserve Abhay, then no one does!
Rest of the points are also bang on. No matter which side of the coin it is, Pia is always at fault Clap
 
@Black...yes, from what creatives have been expressing, and i have seen in some articles from the actors themselfes, Piyas journey was the plot with Abhay and Abhiya as very close second main plot. till now writesr have failed to successfully show it though, sometimes to a level where even Abhiya seems like 3rd grade side-charcaters.  and taking fans views here, yes, the fail to understand the main character, and requires it to baselessly always be there for other charcaters importance, rightfully and logicaly.
 
 
As for Maithali, you know i think even if they show a FB with Metz disagreeing with Abhayender or arguing with him, she'll take a place next to Piya real fast,lol
But yes, it seems rather like Abhay with any girl that makes him happy. not what it actually should be: two lonely souls, pained by society, finding solace in eachother no matter how complicated it gets along the way.  
 
 
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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Pocahontas

True that. The majority of sympathy in this show has always lied with Abhay. I am an Abhay shipper , totally. But being on Abhay's side does not mean he does no wrong or that whatever he says or does is justified. 

As Chillz pointed out , the likes of  us brand Abhay the vintage suffering Byronic Hero. But that doesn't make him the 'unmistakable'. 

Whatever happens tomorrow, whatever Piya's reaction to it , and whatever her decision , it has a lot to do with what Abhay has done or should i say not done? He didn't communicate with her, he lied to her, he didn't have faith in her strength, he kept her in the dark and took all decisions for both of them by himself. Then, how can he or we expect Piya to understand , forgive and forget something she has never been a part of? 

We agree on the fact that till date whatever Abhay has done for Piya ( minus his mod whiplash ) has been with good intent and a good loving heart but sometimes... you just go wrong inspite of all the goodness in your intent. For Abhay that  'sometimes' has happened. 

Piya has all the right to be angry and devastated. One should just let her be. Let her weigh all pros and cons and decide what she wants. Above all, let her deal with all the shock of having been turned into a half vampire. If she loves Abhay , all her fears , anger and devastation will soften away ...but...IN ITS OWN TIME. 
 
Thnx  for replyingSmile
 
I agree with your words on the analyse for upcomming track, these kind of ups and downs was what i did expect from their story and without it there wont be a chance for the charcaters to devlop into eachother.
 
As for beeing a shipper. i do understand that. and well, its great that you consider all parts and characteristics.But for me somehow even beeig a shipper in this story is still equall to AbhayPiya involved, a Abhiya shipper, whatever Abhay goes through, whatever we see of him, is directly or indirectly connected to Piya and viceversa, thats the specialty in this story(even though writers fails to show is rightfully). So basically and logicaly beeing a shipper of each would bring along the other anyways. I personally dont like this divison, but guess its there and uforrunatly sometimes with a possesive baseless gesture.
 
and yes abhay is mistakable, as is Piya. that is the beauty of it. if they both were saints it would rather become boring after a while. Although i must mention the beauty of Piyas love for Abhay, how it usually is unconditioal and how she glows in it to a saintly level without questioning and how Abhay beautifuly feels assured with his smile is that 'extra' and that rareness in their story apart of the unlimited pain, and it would be beautiful if creatives developed the drama on that with ups and downs there rather than creating misunderstandings between them, bringing in more of a forced track at times, while so much more is still left open for clarficiation between them as the base of it.
when they prestent that mentioned rareness there should be proper focus and development right there, a reason they are so special compared to the average stories.


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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:48am | IP Logged
Originally posted by adorableKSG

Originally posted by Chill_Out

Of course it's all about Abhay. Is that even a question? Why should Pia's perspective be considered? She's not the oh-so-poor-suffering-byronic-hero of the show. I apologise for my sarcasm, I know it's not appreciated but I'm annoyed at the biased opinions I've been coming across since months on the forum. It really puts me off. I don't blame people for supporting their favourites but objectively, other characters should be kept in mind as well and not treated as punching bags whenever they so much as pinch the hero. I love Abhay as much as anyone else in the forum but that doesn't mean I turn a blind eye to other characters. 
 
 
Bang on, reason why i decided to write a post actually. The unbalanced views does annoy one.
If there is any explanation to give i guess its that, this story is what we could say extra intense, more deep than usuall, when it comes to the main love story and itw two main leads. which would basically mean more feelings involved for attached viewers to deal with. And as girls the easiest target to throw our frustration to harm our hero is the heroine who is directly connected to him. But well sometimes , at least in one case the view should be different and in favour of others one would think.
As for Abhay, well, for me this show is Abhiya! its not just abhay or just Piya, its Abhiya...so yes even i love him equally. And honestly, views apart, i think even TRPs showed its abt them together, the show is only succesful only if  the scripts goes around both of them, equally. Its a pity that views expressed here generally comes from the minority.

True. I don't know why, but biasness and hypocrisy irritate me to no end. For me, as well, both Abhay and Pia make the show. Either one missing and the show will be dead.
 
 
Coming to your post, very well said and well put and it has gotten even me genuinely confused. This show was suppose to be about a girl who comes to Dd and falls in love with a non-human. It was suppose to trace BOTH their journeys and it is. However, majority are just looking at Abhay's journey. Fair enough. Can't really change that. For me, this show was, is and will always be about AbhIya. For some others, it's only about Abhay. It's proven with the countless threads regarding how Pia doesn't deserve Abhay and how Maithili should've been alive or how she should come back. Strange, considering we haven't even got all that insight into Maithili. But who needs it anyway? Abhay was happy with her, that's enough na? In my eyes, if Pia doesn't deserve Abhay, then no one does!
Rest of the points are also bang on. No matter which side of the coin it is, Pia is always at fault Clap
 
@Black...yes, from what creatives have been expressing, and i have seen in some articles from the actors themselfes, Piyas journey was the plot with Abhay and Abhiya as very close second main plot. till now writesr have failed to successfully show it though, sometimes to a level where even Abhiya seems like 3rd grade side-charcaters.  and taking fans views here, yes, the fail to understand the main character, and requires it to baselessly always be there for other charcaters importance, rightfully and logicaly.

I agree there. AbhIya has always had a grip but at times, even they've been handled wrongly, as characters as well as as a bond. Yet, end of the day, their power and impact can be felt.
 
 
As for Maithali, you know i think even if they show a FB with Metz disagreeing with Abhayender or arguing with him, she'll take a place next to Piya real fast,lol
But yes, it seems rather like Abhay with any girl that makes him happy. not what it actually should be: two lonely souls, pained by society, finding solace in eachother no matter how complicated it gets along the way.  

You know, I think you're right about Maithili. The moment she's shown giving Abhay trouble, she'll also be bashed left, right and centre I guess. Lol! You see, Pia did give him happiness right? We never saw Abhay glow and smile so much. 
@bold: Clap Clap Clap
 
 
Thnx for the replySmile

I loved replying! Thanks for making the post! 

You know, you should really be more active. The forum needs members like you Embarrassed

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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:55am | IP Logged
Originally posted by IndigoBlues

Hmph, why silent member, you are good analyst, should post your views here. Smile LOL

People always pick on the heroine. She's always the one who is dumb, ungrateful, faithless, etc. LOL The hero, owing to his dashing personality and charming good looks has no faults, and if he does commit mistakes, it's just for the good of the heroine. LOL I guess people are forgetting that at the end of the day the characters in shows are human beings like you and me. LOL


 



 
Hehe, thank youSmile But i guess getting to much involved with words here would distract me from fully enjoying what i like about the show,lol. But feelt good to express this time, so maybe i'll bother you with my words in futureLOL
 
Isnt it ? Its like the heroine is the everlasting punching bag ?LOL and after a while not just for the hero but for all charcaters,lo. exaclty, since we are sitting on the other side beeing aware of all hidden emotions and all voiceovers, we expect the same from the chacters. and if they dont behave as we would knwoing everything they are accused for beeing dumb and faithless as u say, even in times they are really smart with their movesStern Smile LOL


Edited by adorableKSG - 06 May 2011 at 11:59am

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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 12:03pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by adorableKSG

Originally posted by IndigoBlues

Hmph, why silent member, you are good analyst, should post your views here. Smile LOL

People always pick on the heroine. She's always the one who is dumb, ungrateful, faithless, etc. LOL The hero, owing to his dashing personality and charming good looks has no faults, and if he does commit mistakes, it's just for the good of the heroine. LOL I guess people are forgetting that at the end of the day the characters in shows are human beings like you and me. LOL


 



 
Hehe, thank youSmile But i guess getting to much involved with words here would distract me from fully enjoying what i like about the show,lol. But feelt good to express this time, so maybe i'll bother you with my words in futureLOL
 
Isnt it ? Its like the heroine is the everlasting punching bag ?LOL and after a while not just for the hero but for all charcaters,lo. exaclty, since we are sitting on the other side beeing aware of all hidden emotions and all voiceovers, we expect the same from the chacters. and if they dont behave as we would knwoing everything they are accused for beeing dumb and faithless as u say, even in times they are really smart with their movesStern Smile LOL

Yes. At least Pia is different-she has the guts to confront Abhay when she's feeling angry with him. LOL Most heroines just cry. Stern Smile LOL

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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 12:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by IndigoBlues


Yes. At least Pia is different-she has the guts to confront Abhay when she's feeling angry with him. LOL Most heroines just cryStern Smile LOL

@Red: Tell me about it Stern Smile Pia, too, had that phase and she pissed me off to no end there. Thank God at least she's over that Ermm

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Posted: 06 May 2011 at 12:13pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Princezz22

Hey,
I wont point at anyone.Big smileSo I don't think none should get offended.
However, if you see, all the fans pick up the heroine more easily claiming her as wrong in every aspect.
I wont blame and tell all the Abhay fans who claim themselves as Abhiya fans to stop loving Abhay?
No !! Why should I also? Everyone has their opinions.
But, the thing which bugs all is that if someone is Abhay fan, let him/her claim that he/she is rather than addressing him/herself as 'Abhiya fan'.Just don't claim as Abhiya fan.Embarrassed
I am bringing other show here, but I am die hard Armaan fan, But I never claimed myself as AR fan because I genuinely never loved AR only and nor any couple.

But there are REALLY genuine Abhiya fans here too :)
 
 
Hey backLOL
 
Honestly sweety, i am not so keen on discussion on fans of this characters vs that character, i feel we generally should see it as a whole, that even why i wanted to write a post like this. but maybe i expect to much since i havnt been much involved with the fandom online, and am kinda new to this world and how it came more as big question to me why ppl would throw so much emotions on one charcacter for another.
as for Abhiya fans, well as i say it, its maybe that those fans are Abhiya fans with Abhays approval and happiness assuredLOL. otherwise it can turn into Abhay+another girl  in a second without even thinking, Abhay can only feel what love is and what life is only when he has Piya assured in his mind, that when he can spread life and smile even with othersEmbarrassed


Edited by adorableKSG - 06 May 2011 at 12:17pm

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