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Jaishankar IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:03pm | IP Logged
Well Naava  there is a difference but the way its told makes the difference.Manav told in a way that almost like slapped savita on her face saying I am not eligible of being a son to such a horrible mother tone.His sarcastic tone made the difference thats why Savita it hurt savita so much. The way it was told it hurt her motherhood very bad hence the current situation Naava. In short Manav made a mess as anger blinded from seeing his mother sickness!!!

Edited by Jaishankar - 15 March 2011 at 2:06pm

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naava IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:33pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Dabulls23

Originally posted by naava

Originally posted by Dabulls23

It is ULM being so stubborn and trying his best in shoving his wife down mother's throat as a package deal..
ArMan divorced each other after everyone told them not to including Savita...But they made their stupid decisions..
I agree with Jaishankar's post abv...
If ULM spent 1% of the time and energy on Ds or Savita-Sachu that he spends on Archu's family we would not be seeing Savita in this light...I rest my case..

To: Jaishankar and Varsha
Wink i guess by now you all know i disagree with this line of thinking re: the Savita Manav track.. and i am not going to argue the other POV again...but i just want to ask two questions:

@ stated:  ...those amazing words by Manav "I am not eligible to be ur son "
Can't anyone see the difference between "I am not your son"  and "I am not eligible to be ur son"  The first one shows a failure on Savita's part  which is NOT AT ALL what Manav said...he said HE felt like a failure in being her son because he couldn't make her happy"   There is a WORLD of difference between those 2 statements...even the CV's seem to have forgotten what they wrote....
I agree Nava when ULM said I am not good enough to be your son...He was showing his disappointment in not able to make her happy...
@Varsha (Dabulls23) (hope you are the Varsha on the forum LOL
I guess since the divorce keeps being brought up over and over as the reason for Savita's hatred, is what you and others are really saying is that Savita should never forgive past mistakes and move on?  (it seems also that many on the forum can't forgive them either)..... there is no real hope for them reconciling then.  Manav/Archu have not asked in the exact words i guess, but they have indicated it many times, in so many ways...even Archu said 3 times "please forgive me, can you forgive me etc. to Savita...i guess she didn't use the words "divorce" but she said for her mistakes...  others' think it was the 2nd jail not the divorce, but also imply that no forgiveness should be extended..   seems hopeless in that light....Confused
Yes started with Manju-Ajit-Rassi in breaking ArMan..Sachu's death, 2nd jailing of Ds family thanks to Manju and her fake statement, divorce against everyone's opinion, many many things which has brought the serial, Savita and some of us the way we feel..
Naava with Archu and Savita there is a huge baggage which Archu brought along since after the first marriage..The day ArMan realizes the mistakes they both have made with all the decisions they have taken as married or divorce couple and admits them to Savita she will forgive and love them back..IBut they yet have not even realized that or admitted to themselves...Soul searching needs to happen on both sides..Not Savita alone but ArMan too.. am not going to go into detail what each one of them did..
I will forgive ArMan the day they show that maturity in their behavior and CVs show them bit normal instead of Mahaan all the time..

I simply have a hard time blaming Archana for things that others in her family did...i certainly don't expect to be blamed for something my brother does, or vice versa...  The one that really bothers me is that Archana is responsible for Sachin's death...for goodness sake he was drunk and running down the middle of the road and got hit by a car...Archana was NOT driving the car... I think ArMan HAVE realized and admitted and said to Savita they realized their mistakes..- the divorce certainly being one of the biggest altho i would like to have them say those words...- but.what more can they do??? they have tried over and over and over to show show they made mistakes.....and it's just rejected.

Savita said in today's epi that the problem is the Manav won't do what she tells him to do , that he won't do what she wants ... she is honest...she wants to control him.... how is that ok? should a mother (or anyone) expect others to do what you tell them to do? only what you want?  i don't get it.   Isn't that very selfish, self centered, controlling and wrong?  omg if i acted that way to my children i would be horrified...and i would be the one needing to ask forgiveness not the other way around.   AT least you did include Savita in doing some soul searching...(underlined above)... 

i'm sorry i know you guys have a good heart  and want what is best...but i just cannot wrap my head around this way of looking at it... (neither can you mine i know....LOLLOL)

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omshreejaanu IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:34pm | IP Logged
Ok it seems that ArMan r solely responsible of everyone's miseries in PR land. If they r mahaan they suck n if they try 2 b humans they suck again n r shameless.
To err is human n i think many of us r forgetting it. Shrav, Ajit, Vandu,.... all of them erred n paid 4 their mistakes too but ArMan shud always b reminded of their mistakes at every single opportunity? Their past blunders shud always b forced down their throatDead Is this how ppl move on in life by instilling guilt grips in them n by preventing them 2 forget their past? Well i guess i come from another school of thought.
I wont force my opinions abt the Manav - Savita track. I'll just say( n i know many wud say how insensitive) - Savita wud have behaved as stubbornly as she is behaving now whether she was or not sick. Savita does not like 2 lose n likes 2 get away with everything.
She is sick, she needs her son n i'm sure her son will look after her coz he cares. When he told his mom he is an undeserving son  n 2 go away, he was taking the blame 4 all the miseries n mess around not the other way round.
Ok Archu shud not b forced down Savita's throat. Does it mean that Manav shud leave his wife 2 please her mom?Confused If not, wat is the option. The old lady doesn't want the wife in her house. Manav came with a solution but here again the lady got confused, started cooking loads of food n waited 4 her son when he was not supposed 2 come n then threw all the food away. That scene really nauseated me!!Dead
All i know is a person can never b always right nor can he/she be always wrong. It is very unfair 2 dump all responsibilities on ArMan shoulders 4 every single problem.

Edited by omshreejaanu - 15 March 2011 at 8:39pm

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mandy0310 Channel Moderator

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:43pm | IP Logged
Savita is going to regret this, she is causing her own misery. Manav still loves her just as much as he has before but he is not going to choose his wife over his mother and forever be a puppet in her hands. Savita needs to realize that there is someone else that holds importance in his life, his wife. Archana makes Manav happy and Savita needs to understand that instead of constantly trying to keep them apart

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archanamanav IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 2:43pm | IP Logged
manav kept savita on his head she refuses to get down...Ermm

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mandy0310 Channel Moderator

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:04pm | IP Logged
It looks like Savita will continue to give Manav the cold treatment until he leaves Archana, it is her loss because she is losing out on a relationship with her son and daughter in law. She is proving what Manav said about her to be true in terms of not wanting to be happy, her hatred seems to mean more to her than her love for her son and that is a shame.

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swtbaby IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:32pm | IP Logged

plz don't b stubborn )=

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Jaishankar IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 15 March 2011 at 3:41pm | IP Logged
omshreejaanu the solution Manav came up was the difference it was pathetic way.Manav himself admitted Savita was not like that before she was gentle before so knowing that this ignorance behavior has cost him - savita's Manav's thinking was right but approach wrong which is the reason for this mess over all and he himself admitted if Savita is given love she would when he knows all this the ignorance pathetic way of solving the props has made this situation worse and cost his mom health..Thats where the props is..

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