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The INTRIGUING facets of KRISHNA !! (Page 4)

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Posted: 14 March 2011 at 8:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by telstra

Crycfrying after reading ur post tanthya oh man i am getting too emotional wonderfull dear Clapsuch a good portrayal of krishnas character never heard never saw hmm u r an  amazing writed dear


Issme crying waali kouno baath neina, ShockedShocked  Hasbo Big smile


Thankooo, Dear !!




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Originally posted by dhakarn

oh di i don't have words to explain or express the feelings brimming in me after/while reading ur ...............i don't know what to call it............perfect description of the truth of K's character and his purpose in the life of Pratigya/MKAP.............Smile would suffice, i think........maybe more..........pls blame it on my poor vocabulary but i can't find a suitable word/phrase to do justice to ur masterpiece .............Take a bow Smile Tongue  Clap That's all i can say..........

If u remember dyehard has also posted something along these lines ...........Smile

coming to ur post (i am using the word post bec i am at a loss to find a fitting word to describe it , so pls don't mind)..............


Krishna is the Ocean of LoveSmile...and just like ocean ..there will be ebbing tides and high tides ..constant churning  and just as storms, hurricanes cyclones rise over ocean, giving rise to waves so high that it destroys everything in it is wake, batters down anything in its path and this destruction will continue untill the hurricane lasts and once it blows over the ocean return to its tranquility , the tides return to its normality..the ocean has changed but is still unchanged, the ocean has swallowed many unpalatable and dangerous things  , but once it absorbs this unpalatable things,,it retaines its calm and resumes its serenity, its unflappability ...it continues inexorably until eternity and so does Krishna's love..

Krishna's Love too will witness hurricanes, will lash out  but like the ocean his love too has enough depth to absorb the unpalatable truths and accept the truth ...

yes, he is exactly like that.............i have always said that Krishna bows down only before love and its this quality that makes him unique.........he listens to heart more than he listens to his mind and that is why we r drawn towards him as gopis r to krishna ........Embarrassed u have described krishna in the most perfect and flawless way Clap Clap Clap

Reverting back to Krishna ...Krishna's love is based on loyalty and trust ...any breach in this and the betrayer is automatically eligible for death ....this is one half of Krishna.

when the storm subsides, be it the storm of betrayal,anger or falsehood ..when it blows over...there still is and will be Love ...like the rock of Gibraltar ...this too is an unshakable truth of Krishna ....one might say the other half of Krishna ...

Two half's...and not related at all ...and still this 2 half's sit comfortably in Krishna ...This is the duality of Krishna ....


yes, we saw this quality of him in many occasions......the most pronounced,  for me was when he ordered a servant to kill his wife bec she betrayed him but when sakthi tried to kill his wife the question he asked was significant.......he didn't ask why u tried to kill her, she is your wife? but he asked why did u try to kill ur wife ? what has she done to u?............which clearly states that if kesar was not an innocent , poor , battered and abused woman
krishna wouldn't have minded even if sakthi killed her infront of him as he told Pratigya that day, if bauji was not present there he would personally have finished off that woman.........and that's krishna.....accept him like that........there is no other way.......

and regarding krishna as 'saarthi' , yes, it has been shown time and again that P can't win unless and until K gives her the necessary space or helps her.......if he is not there to shield her from his family/evil most of the battles she is fighting would have been long lost.........and i for one has cried hoarse to all those who have dared to call him JKG and Pratigya's pet that no he is not like that, he is a man of his own heart and mind and in his world he decides things and as his world is pratigya he decided on her happiness most of the times
in a way that is  convenient to him too.....whenever he is not finding it convenient to him we see him frustrated and angry ......as we see today how he is risking her happiness and trust for his convenience..........and as he is not getting the desired result he is angry and frustrated......

Also I have felt that like KRISHNA, krishna also is insensitive and the thing that matters to him is only the end result and not the path/or how he is going to achieve it''''.he doesn't care about the people involved or their hearts , its his wish, his desire and his convenience ''''..its the end good he is aiming at as we saw with his lies here'''..

 

And as they say krishna is the hero and villain of Mahabharata , in the same way krishna is the hero and villain of MKAP''''.Smile


and di, thanks again for such an illuminating shower of words which described the essence of K and his role in MKAP........Star




 




I would not say , Krishna is insensitive, Dhanya ..Krishna is sensitive..too sensitive..but this sensitivity is aligned with calm pragmatism rather than  Soft emotion's..He can love  ,protect, care for Paarth even above his own life, yet he will not hesitate to pull in Paarth if  Krishna perceives that Paarth is not doing to his ability , or act independently of Paarth or his wish...


Krishna is blessed with foresight, and yet at the same time he knows what he wants..and  he achieves this with cool,impersonal precision..en route if he gets humiliated,koi baat nahi, if ppl laugh at him, koi baat nahi, if ppl feel sorry for him, koi baat nahi ...for at the end his objective that he set out for  is achieved  and just as lord krishna forgot and forgives everyone with a smile, Krishna too does after passing some pithy comment



Thank You  very much for appreciating my post ..and it is a post, Dear Smile...

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Originally posted by Madmadgirl

Awww Sathya - I love the analogy!Thumbs Up
 
Even if I do not agree wholeheartedly with the roles, I do love and agree that in the way Krishna and Arjun together were a good team so too are our beloved jodi.
 
I guess where I disagree is that fundamentally, without Krishna,  Arjun would never have enabled that truth and righteousness prevail.....and essentially be victorious in their Mahabharat.....
 
The problem I have with Kand P is
 
what exactly is P's fight about? What is her stand for truth and righteousness about? What is her motivation?
 
Is truth and righteousness for P living a happy and settled life with her husband who finally works and carries his weight, having finally listened to his wife and bettered himself???
 
But then this fight could go on forever....and indeed isnt this fight simply called living for most of us? Most of us may be in relationships where we have these expectations of ourself and our partner but spend our lives trying to to achieve some level of nirvana.....dont we?
 
As women, we must surely possess an innate gene that allows us to compromise with circumstances - but the single biggest compromise for any human being must be  falling in love, because for the first time it isnt all about you - there is someone else you want to consider, someone else's feelings other than your own that may not just matter,but matter more than your own.
 
I accept that K has fallen in love with P and actually has rather a lot to be proud of - after all he has netted a pretty, educated, so called sherni of a wife, who he knows is capable in all ways - great catch!
 
What did P get? Whatever it is it is far shorter than what she had expected, but despite having acepted it  she struggles to make it good.......indeed does P actually even really love K or does she simply appreciate some of the good in him, which primarily is his loyalty to her, his dependability???
 
I actually find P a more complex character than K - and that is because I dont know what she actually wants out of life.....what K wants is so much more simple, but unless P works out exactly what she wants by way of a future, I see this Arjun telling her charioteer Krishna he's doing a rubbish job and then, far from accepting K's guidance and help, she will have no faith in his handling at all and take the reins herself.......
 
dyou get ma drift???LOL
 
sorry for the rambling post - I am no way near as eloquent or succinct - this stuff just came into ma head and I typed it!Approve
 
Would be interesting to hear your views nevertheless!
 


I always thought Pratigya's character sketch was simple that she is a champion for truth and justice...To me till now, she has always put that before any relationship besides her own family...I think it has been far more clearer for me her purpose...For me, it is not the complexity which is the issue, it is the confusion by the CVs part to show an all empowering strong woman but a typical serial bahu....They are afraid to admit that lead females can have flaws and are human...For me they have failed to balance the two by not making Pratigya reflect and learn from her mistakes...

What is more complex for me is the relationship between the two....I dont know what they want to show in that or what we are meant to learn from it...

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Originally posted by Madmadgirl

Awww Sathya - I love the analogy!Thumbs Up
 
Even if I do not agree wholeheartedly with the roles, I do love and agree that in the way Krishna and Arjun together were a good team so too are our beloved jodi.
 
I guess where I disagree is that fundamentally, without Krishna,  Arjun would never have enabled that truth and righteousness prevail.....and essentially be victorious in their Mahabharat.....
 
The problem I have with Kand P is
 
what exactly is P's fight about? What is her stand for truth and righteousness about? What is her motivation?
 
Is truth and righteousness for P living a happy and settled life with her husband who finally works and carries his weight, having finally listened to his wife and bettered himself???
 
But then this fight could go on forever....and indeed isnt this fight simply called living for most of us? Most of us may be in relationships where we have these expectations of ourself and our partner but spend our lives trying to to achieve some level of nirvana.....dont we?
 
As women, we must surely possess an innate gene that allows us to compromise with circumstances - but the single biggest compromise for any human being must be  falling in love, because for the first time it isnt all about you - there is someone else you want to consider, someone else's feelings other than your own that may not just matter,but matter more than your own.
 
I accept that K has fallen in love with P and actually has rather a lot to be proud of - after all he has netted a pretty, educated, so called sherni of a wife, who he knows is capable in all ways - great catch!
 
What did P get? Whatever it is it is far shorter than what she had expected, but despite having acepted it  she struggles to make it good.......indeed does P actually even really love K or does she simply appreciate some of the good in him, which primarily is his loyalty to her, his dependability???
 
I actually find P a more complex character than K - and that is because I dont know what she actually wants out of life.....what K wants is so much more simple, but unless P works out exactly what she wants by way of a future, I see this Arjun telling her charioteer Krishna he's doing a rubbish job and then, far from accepting K's guidance and help, she will have no faith in his handling at all and take the reins herself.......
 
dyou get ma drift???LOL
 
sorry for the rambling post - I am no way near as eloquent or succinct - this stuff just came into ma head and I typed it!Approve
 
Would be interesting to hear your views nevertheless!
 


I always thought Pratigya's character sketch was simple that she is a champion for truth and justice...To me till now, she has always put that before any relationship besides her own family...I think it has been far more clearer for me her purpose...For me, it is not the complexity which is the issue, it is the confusion by the CVs part to show an all empowering strong woman but a typical serial bahu....They are afraid to admit that lead females can have flaws and are human...For me they have failed to balance the two by not making Pratigya reflect and learn from her mistakes...

What is more complex for me is the relationship between the two....I dont know what they want to show in that or what we are meant to learn from it...


StarHug

How does Prats champion the truth and stand for justice when she wears a blindfold when it's her maike members who have gone down the "gair kaanoni" path?  The law enforcement personnel and society is blamed for the MMGJ walas's plight.

Were the CVs bent on showing that Prats only goes so far to stand against  wrong like she did  hen her maike forgave Jai and when her jetji KN killed Kesar's baby. (Granted in both cases, the final choice was not hers to make).  If one is going to stand up for the truth, do they really back down so easily and not follow through to it's conclusion?  If she really was the torch bearer for truth, she would held her sister accountable for dragging a married man to the mandap to marry him.  KN was the bigamist granted, but how easily she gave her sister the pass. She called the crime a mistake and let it go. 

Will she hold Krishna's feet to the fire for his lies? Probably, until she gets her way.




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