Posted: 07 February 2011 at 4:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Ankita_88
sweared that he will kill jayadrath and if he is unsuccessful then he will take
"agnisamadhi"...........a famous oatha though.....:-)
, was just thinking about the
same while reading Lola's post
Originally posted by ADMJCXNK97fan
ah, this id
a very interesting topic!!!!
i was just going to say devotion.....but since
you got that covered i'll pick at something else!!! lol
Determination......commitment to Dharma
(Yudhistir etc.), some used rage, with pure determination and faith that god
will help them if their purpose was righteous (well most weren't that concerned
about the righteous-ness part....) like Draupadi, Arjuna, Bhim, Parshuram etc.
some out of love, seflessness & devotion
like Bhishma, Ram etc.
But many did make rash decisions like arjuna,
but fortunatley Krishna to the rescue, however he made the best question right
there ever....'Why is your destiny so fond of taking oaths?' that--to me,
is probably one of the best questions ever!!!!!!! hahahaha
But sometimes in the heat of the moment rash
oaths can be taken, and can lead to misery becasue in the heat, no 'checking'
will be done in the mind to see wether this is a good thing being done or
not....so this is a good topic but i have to go now so i can't expand much more
at the moment....i will though!!!!
Yes Dear, I do support this view of yours. It
was indeed a rash decision by Arjun. I always get surprised when I think
about the fact that even after listening and understanding The Geeta from the
Lord, how could Arjun behave in such a way? Being carried away so much by the
Emotion (i.e.- the grief of losing his son)!
On the other hand, as you have mentioned the
point of 'Righteousness', we can support Arjun in this respect only till
'the promise of killing Jayadrath'. But he tried to do that on the very next
day- this part was unnecessary, I think, it was the part which Krishna wanted the point out in
his dialogue. The 'Righteousness' was also there in Lakshman's oath to kill
Meghnad, in Bheem's oath to kill Kauravas- thus, they were working for
Dhrama thr' these oaths.
Otherwise, if we consider all the situations, we
can found that, mostly, the oaths are taken in the 'spur-of-the moment'
basis (that is- mostly). They are the Spontaneous Reactions
of the person in that particular situation (like Bheem's oath of killing
Kauravas, Lakshman's oath of killing Bharat, Bharat's oath of commiting
suicide, Bheeshma's oath to Satyavati's father, Dasharath's promise to Kaikeyi).
Whether these oaths were correct or wrong ones- that needed to be discussed,
but I feel, they actually represent the Dedication of that person to the
Starting from the action of Arjun and trying to
have an overview of the whole topic, I could focus only on this point now
. I guess, this is my Spontaneous Response after reading the 1st few posts
And about the 'various strategies taken by
the characters to go thr' the Moral Dilemma'
, it was the
Surrendership/Devotion to Krishna
which gave the strength to
to carry on his outward actions for the Hastinapur Kingdom,
which made his situation rather complex. Just thought to mention it here, as
most of the members know about my attachment with the character of
Lola, This topic is really Vast and
Sooo.. Multi-Layered that I am also expecting many many angles in our
discussion. Indeed, we'll be able to go deep into the characters
while analyzing their actions.