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Posted: 02 June 2008 at 11:17pm | IP Logged
CBI on Noida cops trail
Author: Arushi Talwar, Dr. Rajesh Talwar, Nupur, Hemraj, Noida, Murders, City News, Delhi, CBI Date: 03 Jun 2008

The CBI has picked up from where the Noida police has left in the Arushi case. The agency is collecting evidence afresh and plan to nail Rajesh and Nupur Talwar



Dr Rajesh Talwar, father of murdered teen Arushi, remained the prime suspect in the case with the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) following in the footsteps of the Noida police in its line of investigation.

The CBI is focussing on trying to get the murder weapon by interrogating Talwar during the one day remand it got from the court. The Noida police had remained unsuccessful in finding the weapon despite having had Talwar in their custody for three days. The CBI are just as convinced as the Noida cops so far as the likely role of Talwar in the case is concerned. A CBI team also interrogated Anita Durani, left untouched by the Noida cops despite their assertion that the colleague of Dr Talwar had an affair with him which could likely have led to the crime.                    

CBI goes the Noida cops way

CBI at work: A team of CBI collecting evidence at Talwars residence in Noida
Sources say that the manner in which the CBI is using forensic team makes it clear that the agency has a clear idea of the complicity of Arushi's near and dear ones in the horrific murder.

For instance, the forensic experts scanned not only Arushi's room for blood stains but also searched through the bedroom of the teen's parents to find out whether the killer was in that room after murdering the schoolgirl and her servant Hemraj.

The CBI would take finger prints of the suspects in the case and match them with the 20 sets of finger prints that were lifted from the Sector 25, house of Talwars.

Short of raising fingers at Noida police, the agency however would look at whether the evidence related to the case were deliberately destroyed during the course of investigation.

The CBI interrogated prime accused and Arushi's dentist father Dr Rajesh Talwar at the headquarters but without making any headway. It also questioned Dr Anita Durani, who according to UP police had an extra marital relationship with Talwar.

Though the Noida police dragged Durani's name into the controversy it never cared to question her. "As per the statement of Dr Nupur Talwar (Arushi's mother), Durani family was among the first few people to know about Arushi's murder. We need to corroborate Nupur's statement with the people she has mentioned," said an officer.

Forensic experts reached the spot early in the day and searched the house again to lift finger prints and other important details. The entire block was put out of bound for the journalists. Apron clad experts were seen observing a 'hand print' on a wall on the terrace. By the evening, armed with a drilling machine the experts cut the piece of the wall to carry forward their investigation.

However, CBI officials admitted it was too late to collect any credible forensic evidence due to rain and meddling by neighbours, curious onlookers and journalists. According to sources, the agency did not get much from Dr Nupur Talwar as she repeated what she had already told the Noida police about the sequence of events.

However, the sleuths point out that it found glaring discrepancies in the statement of the maid Bharti and Dr Talwar's driver Vikas. Bharti was the first person who reached the house in the morning and opened the door from outside. The sleuths also interrogated Vikas, the clinic manager of Talwars. The agency plans to counter both Rajesh and Nupur to find more details.

The agency is also checking the statement of UP IG Gurdarshan Singh that Arushi was close to Hemraj and used to discuss his father's relationship with Anita.

The hard disk of Arushi's computer and Dr Talwar's laptop was also handed over to CBI as part of case property. It will try to retrieve all the deleted data from the computers.

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Posted: 03 June 2008 at 12:25am | IP Logged
Originally posted by uknaik99

CBI on Noida cops trail
Author: Arushi Talwar, Dr. Rajesh Talwar, Nupur, Hemraj, Noida, Murders, City News, Delhi, CBI Date: 03 Jun 2008

The CBI has picked up from where the Noida police has left in the Arushi case. The agency is collecting evidence afresh and plan to nail Rajesh and Nupur Talwar



Dr Rajesh Talwar, father of murdered teen Arushi, remained the prime suspect in the case with the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) following in the footsteps of the Noida police in its line of investigation.

The CBI is focussing on trying to get the murder weapon by interrogating Talwar during the one day remand it got from the court. The Noida police had remained unsuccessful in finding the weapon despite having had Talwar in their custody for three days. The CBI are just as convinced as the Noida cops so far as the likely role of Talwar in the case is concerned. A CBI team also interrogated Anita Durani, left untouched by the Noida cops despite their assertion that the colleague of Dr Talwar had an affair with him which could likely have led to the crime.                    

CBI goes the Noida cops way

CBI at work: A team of CBI collecting evidence at Talwars residence in Noida
Sources say that the manner in which the CBI is using forensic team makes it clear that the agency has a clear idea of the complicity of Arushi's near and dear ones in the horrific murder.

For instance, the forensic experts scanned not only Arushi's room for blood stains but also searched through the bedroom of the teen's parents to find out whether the killer was in that room after murdering the schoolgirl and her servant Hemraj.

The CBI would take finger prints of the suspects in the case and match them with the 20 sets of finger prints that were lifted from the Sector 25, house of Talwars.

Short of raising fingers at Noida police, the agency however would look at whether the evidence related to the case were deliberately destroyed during the course of investigation.

The CBI interrogated prime accused and Arushi's dentist father Dr Rajesh Talwar at the headquarters but without making any headway. It also questioned Dr Anita Durani, who according to UP police had an extra marital relationship with Talwar.

Though the Noida police dragged Durani's name into the controversy it never cared to question her. "As per the statement of Dr Nupur Talwar (Arushi's mother), Durani family was among the first few people to know about Arushi's murder. We need to corroborate Nupur's statement with the people she has mentioned," said an officer.

Forensic experts reached the spot early in the day and searched the house again to lift finger prints and other important details. The entire block was put out of bound for the journalists. Apron clad experts were seen observing a 'hand print' on a wall on the terrace. By the evening, armed with a drilling machine the experts cut the piece of the wall to carry forward their investigation.

However, CBI officials admitted it was too late to collect any credible forensic evidence due to rain and meddling by neighbours, curious onlookers and journalists. According to sources, the agency did not get much from Dr Nupur Talwar as she repeated what she had already told the Noida police about the sequence of events.

However, the sleuths point out that it found glaring discrepancies in the statement of the maid Bharti and Dr Talwar's driver Vikas. Bharti was the first person who reached the house in the morning and opened the door from outside. The sleuths also interrogated Vikas, the clinic manager of Talwars. The agency plans to counter both Rajesh and Nupur to find more details.

The agency is also checking the statement of UP IG Gurdarshan Singh that Arushi was close to Hemraj and used to discuss his father's relationship with Anita.

The hard disk of Arushi's computer and Dr Talwar's laptop was also handed over to CBI as part of case property. It will try to retrieve all the deleted data from the computers.

uknaik99ji what paper did this article come from? Thank you.

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Who's lying?
Author: Anshuman G Dutta & Shashank Shekhar Date: 04 Jun 2008

What was Dr Rajesh Talwar wearing on the fateful night when his daughter Arushi Talwar was murdered in her bed? Contradictory replies given to this question by the dentist, his wife Nupur Talwar and their driver Umesh have strengthened the CBI's suspicion that the family is hiding something about the crime


Dr Rajesh Talwar's wife Nupur  says he was wearing a kurta pyjama on the night of the murder Dr Talwar claims he wore a t-short and shorts. His statement is upheld by his driver Umesh
CBI investigators who took Dr Talwar to his Noida residence for questioning on Tuesday morning along with his wife Nupur  were left baffled with their conflicting replies over what Rajesh was wearing on the night of the murder.

Sources said while Rajesh claimed that he was wearing a t-shirt and shorts, Nupur said that he was wearing a kurta-pyjama.

Factual error

The investigators are now wondering whether the discrepancy is actually a pointer to the fact that Rajesh changed his clothes sometime during the night.

While Nupur said he wore a kurta pyjama at night, the dentist's assertion that he was wearing a red t-shirt and shorts is upheld by videos which show him in this attire at the time Arushi's body was being brought out of the Talwars' Noida home for post-mortem by the police.

Rajesh's driver Umesh while talking to MiD DAY also confirmed that the dentist was wearing a red t-shirt in the morning when he reached the flat on finding out about Arushi's murder.

Interestingly, Talwar also told the CBI that on the night of the murder, he had taken an insulin injection to control his increased blood sugar level. However, Nupur said she had no such recollection of her husband taking the shot that night.

Mysterious role

Under Suspicion: Dr Rajesh Talwar being taken out of the court    
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CBI sources said though Dr Talwar may not be the prime accused in the case, the family's role in the entire murder mystery cannot be ruled out.

Such conflicting statements from the husband and wife are further strengthening these doubts.

A senior CBI official said, "Such statements show that the family is hiding something important or had differences related to something very serious in nature.

We want to question them together only to point out those differences and bring out the actual facts."

Arushi's parents were questioned in front of Rajesh's brother Dinesh Talwar who was among the first to reach the house after the murder came to light.

CBI officials also tried to re-create the scene of the murder as explained by the Talwar family and a similar exercise will be repeated again today.

The CBI officials are also surprised that the Talwar family after demanding a CBI probe is now refusing to co-operate with the agency sleuths. "Dr Talwar is not co-operating and is giving conflicting statements. Both he and Nupur are trying to hide important facts related to the case," said the officer. 

The defence counsels who also had demanded a CBI probe yesterday contested the agency's application for extending the custody of the doctor.

On track

CBI Director Vijay Shanker says that the investigation is going in the right direction. "The investigation is being carried out in a diligent way and it is a long-term process," he said.

Talking to MiD DAY, Vijay Shankar refused to comment on the investigation carried out by the Noida police and said, "I don't want to say anything over the procedure adopted by the Noida police but our investigation is going on in the right direction," he said. 

The CBI has been granted an extended remand of two days for Dr Talwar on  grounds that he is not co-operating and is a major link in the entire murder mystery.

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CBI seeks 5-day remand, gets 2 days

Wed, Jun 4 03:05 AM

 

AS DR. Rajesh Talwar stood in the jam-packed courtroom, he appeared oblivious to his surroundings.

 

Dressed in a white kurta pyjama, he remained quiet throughout the proceedings. Talwar was brought to a Ghaziabad court at around 2.30 p.m. from its rear gate. In January 2007, an angry crowd had beaten up Nithari case accused Moninder Singh Pandher inside the same court complex.

 

The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) moved an application in the court, seeking five days' further remand of Rajesh Talwar. Defence lawyer Satish Tamta challenged the application and said the apparent reasons cited could not be justified as investigations could also be carried out in the prison complex.

 

He also demanded that the CBI reveal the outcome of its investigations carried out over the past 24 hours as the earlier police remand for three days did not lead to any conclusive facts. "The defence is cooperating in the investigations and did not insist on the presence of a lawyer with Rajesh Talwar during the one-day CBI investigations carried out at the CBI headquarters in Delhi.

 

Nothing material could be found out by the CBI during the investigations," said Tamta. The court also instructed the CBI to get the medical tests done by jail authorities/government hospital, on Dr. Rajesh Talwar, before taking him on an extended remand on the completion of the present remand. The court also directed there should be no physical and mental torture during the investigations.

 

The defence lawyer had earlier cited that Dr Rajesh Talwar was an asthma patient. The court also allowed for the presence of a defence lawyer during the investigations, if the accused wished so, provided the lawyer remain at a distance of at least 100meters and should not interfere with the ongoing investigations.

 

If any recovery is made during the remand duration, it is to be made in the presence of an independent witness, the court ordered. There was no separate application moved by the CBI for brain-mapping, narco-analysis and lie-detector tests though sources said they might seek the tests to be conducted on him at a later date. "The CBI will have to move a separate application if they wish to go for these tests on the accused. We do not object to the tests if required.

 

We will fully cooperate in this matter provided the health condition of Rajesh Talwar is kept in mind."

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This begs the question, Would a guilty person or his Legal Counsel agree to these brain-mapping or narco-analysis tests?

 

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Aarushi murder: Lie detector test on Rajesh Talwar

New Delhi, June 04: The CBI on Wednesday subjected Rajesh Talwar, accused in the Noida twin murder case involving his daughter Aarushi, to lie detector test as the agency has formed 10 different teams to look into various aspects of the case.

CBI said the agency carried out the lie detector test of Talwar after he gave his consent. Rajesh Talwar, who is at present in the custody of the agency, was also asked questions about the whereabouts of Aarushi and Hemraj's mobile phones.

CBI had claimed before the designated court yesterday that Rajesh had recorded a statement under Section 161 of CrPC (statement before a police officer) that he would help the agency in recovering the mobile phones.

Coming out with a statement for the first time after it took over the probe into the sensational double murders of 14-year-old girl Aarushi and domestic help Hemraj, CBI said the agency had picked up blood samples which were "still" present at the scene of crime.

Besides the blood samples, the CBI also picked up suspected finger prints, palm prints, blood soaked blanket found on the body of Aarushi and some more clothes with blood stains on them.

CBI Director Vijay Sahnker along with his officials and forensic experts from AIIMS and forensic laboratory reviewed the case during which the scene of crime, available forensic evidence were discussed and an analysis of postmortem report was done.

"CBI has constituted 10 teams to look into various aspects of this investigations, which were being carried out in full swing," the statement said.

Meanwhile, the CBI has recovered blood stained clothes, which show signs of having been washed to remove the stains. They have also recovered Aarushi's digital camera from which 23 photos have been found deleted.
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Things are getting more and more clear now...

CBI Opens A Door
Author: Anshuman G Dutta Date: 05 Jun 2008

The CBI says that contrary to the Talwars' claim, the door to Arushi's room was wide open on the night she was murdered. Her parents could not have escaped hearing her cries as a killer slit her throat and also murdered family servant Hemraj


Probe trail
* Maid Bharati questioned the third time

* Doctors who conducted post-mortem on both Arushi and Hemraj questioned

* Blood-stained blanket and other clothes seized

* Gloves were used for
the crime
The Central Bureau of Investigation claims it has enough evidence to prove that the door to Arushi Talwar's bedroom was open the night she was brutally murdered.

It belies the statements given by the teen's parents, Rajesh and Nupur Talwar, that they could not hear anything over the noise of the air-conditioner in their room.

The CBI also points out that the Talwars were not being correct in stating that they had to push open the door to Arushi's room in the morning, as it was already open.

Recreating the crime scene, the central investigative agency reached the conclusion that it was almost impossible for Nupur Talwar not to have heard sounds of the violence inside Arushi's bedroom.

"The Talwars claim that they could not hear anything as the air-conditioner was making a noise. We believe that Arushi's door was open when she was murdered.

If the door of the bedroom was open, the AC could not have muffled the outside noise," said a CBI officer.

The CBI conducted a polygraph test on Dr Talwar on Wednesday and claimed that it had got clues to locate the weapon of offence.

The agency believes that the weapon was disposed of by the dentist on the way to Haridwar, where Arushi's ashes were immersed in the Ganges. Working on the same line of investigation, a Noida police team had earlier taken Dr Talwar to Haridwar.

The CBI sleuths also seized a blood-stained blanket from Arushi's bedroom and some of Dr Talwar's clothes to check any traces of blood on these.

The agency is now focussing on the missing mobile phones of Arushi and her domestic help, Hemraj, who was also killed along with her.

Agency sources have confirmed that the murder was well-planned and there were more than two people involved in the case. The fact that the main gate to the Talwar residence was found locked from outside indicated that there were more people involved in the twin murder.

"The main door was found locked from outside. It can happen only in the instance of someone going outside the house in the night," the sources said.     


'Enough proof to nail Talwar'

On Wednesday, CBI director Vijay Shanker personally reviewed the case and the forensic evidence which was collected from the crime scene.

But sources say that the palm print recovered from the terrace of the Talwars' residence was that of a plastic glove, which probably belonged to the killer.

"Everything indicates that it was a well planned murder, contrary to the Noida police's claim that both the victims were killed in the heat of the moment," said an officer.

Meanwhile, forensic report also revealed that several photographs were deleted from Arushi's
digital camera and experts were trying to retrieve them.


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I still don't see any evidence to "Nail" the Talwars as this article states. Sure there is a lot second guessing by the media and the tabloids.  However the CBI has said nothing earthshaking, nor unearthed anything that makes their case. I still don't understand why the camera is being touted as "hot evidence" but which was supposedly tampered with. Does the CBI think that Dr. Talwar took pictures after killing Aarushi and Hemraj, and then deleted them? In many ways it feels like the CBI's investigation is being choreographed by the Noida and UP Police. The Police Fraternity tends to stick together the world over.

 

Dr. Talwar did take the polygraph earlier today, and according to the media reports that test failed to prove him a blatant liar. Maybe the brain mapping and narco tests that the Indian Police put so much faith in should be done next. What if that comes up with nothing?  What then? Will that satisfy all the investigators that maybe they are looking at the wrong person?

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