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i am confused w/ the DNA reports (Page 2)

carolgracias Newbie

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Posted: 15 May 2008 at 8:55am | IP Logged
to test baby's dna...u need to draw amniotic fluid around the baby.....tht itself is a risky y wd soni let anyone draw her baby's fluid.....whether to implicate herself or redeem herself.....either ways

kumaricha Groupbie

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Jeet knew that cherry is goin to do this, then why jeet leave the home. He could have tell veer and all his family members that its all cherry who is creating the problems between them. What you all say. Please leave your comments.
shags40 Senior Member

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Posted: 15 May 2008 at 10:58am | IP Logged
This is a peer reviewed journal which talks about fetal DNA in maternal circulation ..I have only included the relevant material

Copyright 2003, The National Academy of Sciences

Placental mRNA in maternal plasma: Prospects for fetal screening

Malcolm A. Ferguson-Smith*
Cambridge University Centre for Veterinary Science, Madingley Road, Cambridge CB3 0ES, United Kingdom

"mRNA of placental origin is readily detectable in maternal plasma" on page 4748.


It has been known for a long time that small numbers of nucleated fetal cells pass into the maternal circulation (3).

It is estimated that there are, on average, one to two such cells per milliter in the second trimester (4). They are composed of trophoblast cells, lymphocytes, and nucleated red blood cells (NRBCs). Most attention has been paid to NRBCs because they are, at present, more consistent throughout pregnancy, disappear rapidly after delivery (unlike lymphocytes), and, because of their fetal origin, can be predicted to some extent from the quantity of cytoplasmic fetal and embryonic hemoglobin.

Unfortunately, maternal erythroid precursors containing smaller amounts of these hemoglobins are also present.

Clear distinction between fetal and maternal cells is possible only when the presence of paternal DNA sequences can be demonstrated;

in 50% of fetuses the Y chromosome is a reliable paternal marker, whereas female fetuses require tests for a paternal DNA polymorphism.

It is disappointing that multicenter studies on fetal sexing from maternal blood, based on the isolation and analysis of fetal cells by fluorescence in situ hybridization (FISH) with Y-specific probes, have yielded too many false results to warrant application in obstetric practice (5). However, in Down's syndrome pregnancies and in preeclampsia the numbers of fetal cells in the maternal circulation is increased, and this has been a factor in the successful FISH diagnosis of several cases of Down's syndrome. In other pregnancies, microdissection of Y-bearing single cells followed by PCR amplification and assay of DNA have been successful in the diagnosis of sickle-cell anemia, -thalassemia (6), and spinal muscular atrophy (7). These results have encouraged attempts to find better strategies for fetal cell isolation and enrichment.

A more promising possibility for noninvasive fetal diagnosis became apparent in 1997 when Lo et al. (8) demonstrated that Y-chromosome sequences could be detected by PCR assay of DNA in boiled plasma and serum of pregnant women carrying male fetuses. This study was prompted by earlier observations on DNA in the serum of patients with systemic lupus erythematosus (9) and cancer (10). In the cancer patients the DNA contained oncogene mutations that were present in the tumors, indicating the tumor source of the serum DNA. Lo et al. followed up their original observation by developing a quantitative PCR assay using primers for a single-copy sex-determining (SRY) sequence that could detect male pregnancies from 7 weeks onward with 100% reliability, using as little as 50 l of maternal plasma or serum (11). Female pregnancies were identified by exclusion, as SRY sequences were absent in these pregnancies as well as in nonpregnant controls. It was estimated that fetal DNA constituted ˜3.4% of plasma DNA in early pregnancy, increasing to 6.2% in late pregnancy. It was absent before conception and was cleared in a matter of hours after delivery. The amount of fetal DNA in plasma was >20 times the amount estimated from the mean number of fetal cells in maternal blood. This observation raises the question about the source of the fetal DNA in maternal plasma. Lysis of circulating fetal cells by the maternal immune system, apoptosis of cells during fetal development, and apoptosis of the trophoblast seem the likely possibilities. The steep rise in fetal DNA levels in the weeks before delivery suggests a major contribution from the aging placenta.

It seems that fetal sex can be determined in early pregnancy with greater reliability by PCR assay of DNA in the maternal plasma than by FISH studies on isolated cells. This finding has application in the management of pregnancies at risk of severe X-linked recessive disease such as Duchenne's muscular dystrophy. Male fetuses of carrier women are at a 50% risk and require diagnostic tests by chorion villus sampling, whereas female fetuses are unaffected but have a 50% risk of carrier status. Other applications of this approach depend on the distinction between paternal and maternal alleles at polymorphic loci. A valuable development has been the identification of the paternal RHD allele in the plasma of rhesus-negative mothers carrying a rhesus-positive fetus at risk of hemolytic disease of the newborn (12). Several other autosomal dominant traits have been diagnosed in the fetus from the identification of the paternal mutation in maternal plasma. These include mytonic dystrophy (13), achondroplasia (14), and Huntington's disease: in each case the father was known to be affected. For autosomal recessive disease, identification of the paternal allele, or a closely linked marker, serves to increase the a priori risk of an affected fetus from 25% to 50%; absence of the paternal allele excludes disease in the fetus. The prenatal exclusion of -thalassemia has been achieved in this way (15).

As with fetal NRBCs, fetal DNA in maternal plasma is increased in Down's syndrome pregnancies (16) and in preeclampsia, even before clinical signs are apparent (17). Levels are also raised in preterm labor (18) and in association with hydramnios (19). Taken together, these observations seem to confirm an association between placental pathology and elevated fetal DNA in maternal blood and support the view that the placenta is an important source of this DNA in normal pregnancy. It remains to be seen whether fetal DNA assay can be used as an early indicator of other abnormalities in obstetric practice, for example, in intrauterine growth retardation and in impending fetal loss.

Traffic of nucleated cells between mother and fetus is known to occur in both directions. Indeed, it has been shown as a cause of microchimerism, with possible significance in the etiology of autoimmune disease (20). The same bidirectional traffic seems to occur with plasma DNA, because maternal DNA has been found in cord blood in ˜30% of samples tested (21). The levels of maternal DNA in cord blood seem much lower than the levels of fetal DNA in maternal blood.

If DNA assays in maternal plasma can be exploited for fetal genotyping, perhaps RNA assays in maternal plasma may reveal levels of gene expression, which are diagnostic for fetal pathology. And so it transpires. Shortly after the observation in 1999 that the plasma of cancer patients contained tumor RNA, as well as DNA (22), Poon et al. (23) reported the presence of fetal RNA in the plasma of pregnant women. The paper by Ng et al. (2) takes this observation several steps further by measuring placental RNA levels throughout gestation by using a quantitative RT-PCR assay for mRNA transcripts of two placenta-expressed genes coding for hCG and hPL. Placental mRNA was detected in all samples from all pregnant women. The first surprising finding was the stability of both mRNAs over 24 h at room temperature, in view of the acknowledged lability of RNA in other circumstances. The authors show by filtration through 5-m filters that this finding is not because of an origin from residual fetal cells. However, a significant reduction in mRNA levels occurred after the plasma was passed through a 0.45-m filter. This result suggests that the stability is most likely because of the association of mRNA in subcellular particles.

Ng et al. (2) find that hPL mRNA levels increase with gestation whereas hCG levels fall. This result mirrors the protein plasma levels of hPL and hCG. Clearance of hPL mRNA was rapid after delivery; 70% of subjects had no detectable mRNA 2 h after delivery, and after 24 h it was undetectable in all cases. No hPL mRNA was detected in cord blood immediately after cesarean section, suggesting that placental mRNA is not transferred to the fetal circulation. As mentioned above, this result contrasts with the finding of maternal cells and DNA in cord blood.

It is appropriate to consider the relevance of these placental RNA studies for prenatal screening and diagnosis. It is clear from the above that the expression of placental genes can be measured in maternal plasma. Here lies the advantage of assaying mRNA transcripts, rather than DNA. One of the two genes investigated codes for hCG, which is one of the proteins widely used in maternal serum screening for Down's syndrome. Raised levels of serum hCG in the first trimester are associated with affected pregnancies as are decreased levels of PAPP-A. Also, hCG seems to be higher in female than in male pregnancies (24). If maternal plasma levels of mRNA for each of these genes accurately reflect levels of gene product at each gestation, then it is possible that quantitative RT-PCR could be used instead of immunological protein assay to determine the risk of Down's syndrome and to give an indication about fetal sex. There could be an advantage in using a single multiplex RT-PCR assay for these markers, rather than using independent immunoassays.

Perhaps RNA assays in maternal plasma may reveal levels of gene expression, which are diagnostic for fetal pathology.

The results suggest that abnormal patterns of gene expression are likely to be associated with placental pathology, not only in Down's syndrome but also in a variety of obstetric disorders, including preeclampsia. Careful measurement of relevant mRNA levels in maternal plasma in normal and abnormal pregnancies throughout gestation will be required to establish the feasibility of this approach for screening and diagnosis. Prenatal diagnosis of single-gene defects may depend on whether the relevant gene is transcribed in placenta. This concern may prove theoretical as it is known that low levels of mRNA for tissue-specific genes may be revealed by RT-PCR in unrelated tissues. As with prenatal diagnosis from fetal DNA in the maternal circulation, autosomal dominant disorders transmitted from the father may be detectable, and prenatal exclusion of autosomal recessive disorders may also be possible. The relative advantages of fetal DNA and fetal RNA in this respect are yet to be determined. While allele dropout is a potential hazard with both nucleic acids, placental mRNA could pose additional problems because of the rare occurrence of uniparental disomy and confined placental mosaicism.

The choice of Ng et al. (2) to study mRNA transcribed from genes for two well-characterized placental proteins proved to be a good choice as a potential measure of placental function. It also provides evidence of release of placental mRNA into the maternal circulation throughout pregnancy, and circumstantial evidence that the same is likely to occur for placental DNA. The relative contributions of other sources of fetal nucleic acid may prove more difficult to determine.

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Placental mRNA in maternal plasma: Prospects for fetal screening
shags40 Senior Member

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Fetal blood group genotyping from DNA from maternal plasma: an important advance in the management and prevention of haemolytic disease of the fetus and newborn

G. Daniels11International Blood Group Reference Laboratory, Bristol Institute for Transfusion Sciences, National Blood Service, Bristol, UKCorrespondence: Geoff Daniels, Bristol Institute for Transfusion Sciences, Southmead Road, Bristol BS10 5ND, UK
E-mail:, K. Finning11International Blood Group Reference Laboratory, Bristol Institute for Transfusion Sciences, National Blood Service, Bristol, UK, P. Martin11International Blood Group Reference Laboratory, Bristol Institute for Transfusion Sciences, National Blood Service, Bristol, UK & P. Soothill22Fetal Medicine Research Unit, Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, St Michael's Hospital, University of Bristol, Bristol, UK1International Blood Group Reference Laboratory, Bristol Institute for Transfusion Sciences, National Blood Service, Bristol, UK
2Fetal Medicine Research Unit, Department of Obstetrics and Gynaecology, St Michael's Hospital, University of Bristol, Bristol, UK
shags40 Senior Member

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Original Paper
Identification of nucleated red blood cells in maternal circulation: A second step in screening for fetal aneuploidies and pregnancy complications
A. Mavrou 1 *, E. Kouvidi 1, A. Antsaklis 2, A. Souka 2, S. Kitsiou Tzeli 1, A. Kolialexi 1
1Medical Genetics, Athens University School of Medicine, Athens, Greece
21st Dept of Obstetrics & Gynecology, Athens University School of Medicine, Athens, Greece

email: A. Mavrou (

*Correspondence to A. Mavrou, Medical Genetics, Athens University School of Medicine, Athens, Greece.

fetal cells • non-invasive prenatal diagnosis • fetal aneuploidies • screening test


Identification of fetal nucleated red blood cells (NRBCs) in maternal circulation can facilitate non-invasive prenatal diagnosis, but technical difficulties still exist. An increase in the number of circulating NRBCs, however, could indicate fetal aneuploidies or pregnancy complications.

shags40 Senior Member

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prenatal paternity testing

Detecting Fetal Cells

There are some companies that claim that they can perform non-invasive prenatal paternity testing. These tests can allegedly determine the paternity of an unborn baby very early in the pregnancy. Some companies claim the procedure can be done at 12 weeks into the pregnancy.

This type of testing is built around the discovery that a few fetal cells as well as fetal DNA could enter the mother's bloodstream during pregnancy. Studies are currently underway to determine the best methods of separating the fetal cells or DNA from the mother's blood, which can then be used in a paternity test.

Scientists and medical professionals identified two main concerns about the immediate applicability of current techniques to commercial paternity testing. According to Dr. B.W. Bianchi, a prenatal geneticist at Tufts University School of Medicine, fetal DNA does enter the mother's bloodstream, but it could linger there for up to 20 years. Fetal DNA lingering in the mother's blood stream after pregnancy would affect the results of prenatal paternity and gender testing.

Further, this type of non-invasive prenatal testing is based on the assumption that enough fetal cells can be routinely extracted from the mother's blood. However, there are no guarantees. The most recent studies have achieved success rates of only about 70%.

hirah87 Groupbie

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Originally posted by shags40

you can use things as tooth brush,chewing gum or anything for DNA profile . Veer doesnot need blood draw

For Soni-- fetal DNA can be in circulation and can be detected by highly sophisticated tests . which I am a little skeptical that they are in India and avaialable to any one .
These are avaialable at a very high price in very specialized labs ..Every watched CSI???

baby's blood doesnt circulate in soni's other ... its the other way round.. soni's blood goes to the baby... and to test baby's dna one needs to carry out a very sophisticated process of draining amniotic fluid(which is done in hospital and not in your bedroom by any other doctor)

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Posted: 15 May 2008 at 7:38pm | IP Logged
this is really stupid!
dna testing can't be done at this stage of pregnancy not with some high tech stuff which i don't think soni went through and if they did then soni had to have known the what the heck they were doing i mean come on!!
its like balaji...they don't make sense
and now this!! do the creatives think their audience is stupid!!!
no matter how far i put my brain away when watching this shows...sometimes i can't help it but think logically!!!

Edited by desiqt8806 - 15 May 2008 at 7:40pm

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